Originally posted by foxhoundone
mine is the british army entrencing shoval. small light all steel construcion
fold away handle, its serated edge is usful for chopping and the shoval can be used for prying open padlocks, door locks . and its usful for digging too.

Y'know I had one for years, then I lent it to a neighbours grand child who promply lost in at Recar beach, I replaces it with a folding NATO spec one but its much heavier and far more unwieldy. I like the simple early version with a straight handle shaft anmd no cross bar, its lighter and makes a better improvised fighting tool.

Me thinks someone's panties might be a little twisted. If people ain't got no good thingy's to say's then go yonder!

Originally posted by Anuubis
Me thinks someone's panties might be a little twisted. If people ain't got no good thingy's to say's then go yonder!

Aah its just a spelling troll, they are like web trolls but without the intelect or brains to agitate in any meaningful way, I advised him on sex and travel, hopefully he will do so.
Respects NR

i fall into. pot kettle black catogory... id never skit any one, my writing and speeling are not the best lmao

Actually I'm gonna say my motorbike... It's not Ideal it's a road bike, but if I want to move about 180 miles on a single tank of petrol through chaotic roads a bike is the best bet.

On the down side there is always a possibility of permanent injury - even if it's just a twisted ankle or a bust knee it would really slow you down when you switch to 'foot mode'.

But a bike is defiantly the best option for getting out of town in a hurry - you can pack a surprising amount of kit on them if your inventive - I've moved flats twice using only an old 400cc Suzuki

Originally posted by foxhoundone
i fall into. pot kettle black catogory... id never skit any one, my writing and speeling are not the best lmao

The guy volleys away at me about typos and making fun of accents then can not even spell favourite himself, say it all really

Originally posted by Now_Then
Actually I'm gonna say my motorbike... It's not Ideal it's a road bike, but if I want to move about 180 miles on a single tank of petrol through chaotic roads a bike is the best bet.

On the down side there is always a possibility of permanent injury - even if it's just a twisted ankle or a bust knee it would really slow you down when you switch to 'foot mode'.

But a bike is defiantly the best option for getting out of town in a hurry - you can pack a surprising amount of kit on them if your inventive - I've moved flats twice using only an old 400cc Suzuki

C,mon then tell us what it is? Road bike, Trail bike, modifications, cargo carrying capability, my last bike was a GS1000 street fighter, got stolen one christmas day a few years back, but I liked trail bikes because of their off road capability. Mind you since then a hybrid type called a Super Moto has come out, its a French idea it combines the best of both road and offf road bikes. Cant afford one though

[edit on 15-3-2009 by Northern Raider]

i,d have a (mv) ks 750 zundapp.. old german army sidcar outfit, with high and low ratio gearbox 2 wheel drive and diff lock if could survive stalingrad it could survive any sit/x scenirio...

Originally posted by foxhoundone
i,d have a (mv) ks 750 zundapp.. old german army sidcar outfit, with high and low ratio gearbox 2 wheel drive and diff lock if could survive stalingrad it could survive any sit/x scenirio...

Yes they are the post war eastern version of the BMW I think??, boxer twin shaft drive with reverse on the russian built version, I was lead to believe the OE casrbs were crap and most people swapped them for better western european ones, Is that the bike I'm thinking of ?

as far as i know zundapp and bmw both submitted tenders for the german wermacht supply of sidcars in the 2ww, bmw was so confident it would get the contract it started prodution.. but zundapp got the main contract and subbied it back to bmw , alot of them bkes ended up in chech hands and the old ussr just coppied the design. theirs a brave few still knocking around

I too have been thinking about some kind of off road bike for a bug out vehicle.

Someone on another thread mentioned that the Finnish Army used them..some kind of Kawasaki adpted for military usage and that they were pretty rugged macahines.

At the time I did not know that one could get gas tanks in different sizes..special order. IT seems that would be the way to go ..an ovesized gas tank for longer range.

While I own two cars and a truck I also have been riding either a moped or scooter to and fro work for many years as it is quite economical with disatances I travel.

I had never considered a bike like this until conversng with this Finnish Soldier. Thinkng abot one in the 4 to 5 hundred CC displacement with combiination on/off road tires.

What is of interest to me in the local Trading Post sales paper is that the Kawasaki's of this type are seldom found for sale. I am thinking that they are very popular and hence not often sold.

Oh.. and to you ,Northern Raider...

BTW Its Favourite if you are trying to write in British English.

Oh Dear me a humourless misery befalls us, I think you would not want to survive any given disaster if your beloved spull chucker was no longer working. I believe you are intoxicated by the exuberance of your own verbosity. You clearly have nothing of value to contribute to this debate so why are you here except solely to lower the bar?
Still I am sure in your perfect world you have never made a typographical error of any sort. I offer you a piece of advice on sexual intercourse and intercontentinental travel accept it in the manner it is offered.

Thanks for the much needed entertainment. Better than prime time television. Gratified to see you can shoot well enough to put them in the X-Ring when needed. Nice shooting Olde Man!! Your welcome around my campfire anytime.

Thanks to all for their posts,
Orangetom

Originally posted by foxhoundone
as far as i know zundapp and bmw both submitted tenders for the german wermacht supply of sidcars in the 2ww, bmw was so confident it would get the contract it started prodution.. but zundapp got the main contract and subbied it back to bmw , alot of them bkes ended up in chech hands and the old ussr just coppied the design. theirs a brave few still knocking around

My brain is in low gear tonight, my apologies, I'm thinking of what happened when the Ruskies got hold of one of the BMW plants, they shipped it east and started making them again under the Dnieper Logo, sold in the UK for a while as bike and side car combos, dead cheap, farmers love em.

Originally posted by orangetom1999
I too have been thinking about some kind of off road bike for a bug out vehicle.

Someone on another thread mentioned that the Finnish Army used them..some kind of Kawasaki adpted for military usage and that they were pretty rugged macahines.

At the time I did not know that one could get gas tanks in different sizes..special order. IT seems that would be the way to go ..an ovesized gas tank for longer range.

While I own two cars and a truck I also have been riding either a moped or scooter to and fro work for many years as it is quite economical with disatances I travel.

I had never considered a bike like this until conversng with this Finnish Soldier. Thinkng abot one in the 4 to 5 hundred CC displacement with combiination on/off road tires.

What is of interest to me in the local Trading Post sales paper is that the Kawasaki's of this type are seldom found for sale. I am thinking that they are very popular and hence not often sold.

Oh.. and to you ,Northern Raider...

[Orangetom

Tom have you considered the Kawasaki Diesel Motorcycle being developed and used by the US military? I believe its now available for public sale, I think its based on the fabulous and well founded KLR 650, and converted to be a super lightweight mil spec diesel motorcycle, Ideal I think ?
NR