Originally posted by Kandinsky

Seems as though the ball games werent the only sport the Olmecs were interested in , does anyone else think that these statues look like olmecs and their surfboards ?

im from new mexico spanish/native decent brown n proud my wife is full navajo.It seems that your convinced of this african theory man.I live in New mexico and see natives all the time and all natives dont look alike and the ones from southern mexico an central america have these features to me when i see that statue that u claim is a black man, it looks like a fat native dude to me for real.Africans are not the only people with thick lips,and not the only people wit that mean mug on there face.oh wow theres a statue with some hair braided u dont think we know how to braid hair,hey i stand up when i piss too any connection there?.i am brown skined have a gotee i resemble egyptian pharoes,that doesnt mean that i can claim the glory that belongs to them based on some simalar features its ridiculous.I feel native americans are under attack by these claims like this aint there land these aint there accomplishments, everybody wants to stake a claim off some bull#.If you were familiar with people of this region you would know these are there features.I think you have this extreme afrocentric view and you want people to concede this ridiculous claim so you can put your race on some kind of pedistool.So in other words your saying an advanced african culture is responsible for our culture,pyrmids,astronomy,calendar,mathematics and some asians came and took it over?please.betyou believe all the pharoes were black too huh?another outragous claim.these statues all of the same dude and you ignore every other artifact from the region.every body is injecting oh this looks asian looking.At what point can native americans be reconized as there own culture that is unique and of this land people always wanna act like there from somewhere else and the date continues to push back as archioligist discover new #.oh they migrated 5000 years ago oh 10000 oh 30000 years.do you got a patton on full lips and broad nose?people adapt to different regions over time.It reminds me of the maury show when the lady is sayin look at the eys look at the lips look the same ears,and then the kid ends up being someone elses.u connectin dots that just aint there man.look i admire your compasion,but its like u wanna take credit.ok lets explore the remote possibility that a handfull of africans purposely or accidentally ended up in the region.so what. that means ur responsible for it all native americans were just savage dummies who learned every thing from them? It mirrors white extremist way of thinkin.I see no toltecs in your timeline?on that note most blacks in the u.s got white blood in em.Should whites be claiming credit for your peoples accomplishments education,culture,sucsess ect. No because the credit goes to your people who were mixed of many different african types and thru there shared experiance and struggle rose to do so many great things and produced great people and influenced america, credit belongs to you for that u wouldnt like whites to take the credit for your peoples accomplishments.if olmecs were african and came with all this deep knowledge where are the great cities and pyrimids and gods and glyphs in africa that mirror those in america?They wanted to do it somwhere else?were all humanbiengs capable of doing great things just dont be over here tryin to act like they are responsible for our # i am proud of what my ancestors did and dont want u tellin me the credit goes to someone else.i think i know my tierra better than you,dont try to rewrite history blood runs deep here.blacks suffered and went thru some # but so did my ancestors including 90% of the population bieng wiped out by white mans disease.its almost 2010 and we are people from all walks of life and everybody has something to contribute and we can all learn from eachother.you should use all that compassion and energy u have for something other than trying to tell my people our roots.Africa aint lookin too good now adays u could focus some time in that effort.

Originally posted by hatedneverfaded

Howdy HNF

The paragraph is your friend I would suggest investigating its subtle influence on comprehension.

[edit on 13/9/09 by Hanslune]

what do u mean by that?

Originally posted by Hanslune

Originally posted by hatedneverfaded

Howdy HNF

The paragraph is your friend I would suggest investigating its subtle influence on comprehension.

True...

I had a hard time reading through that. Although I thought the content was interesting.

Great theory! I have often wondered why these heads were all over Vera Cruz. The inhabitants still place images of thier sports heroes everywhere. I bet the only remnants of our civilization after we are gone will be some sports memorabilia. Archeologists always try and make every artifact connect with religion. The truth is that the first Americans were not that religious, but they liked a good ball game. Often the losers and fans of the losers were killed after the game.

What an interesting theory it certainly makes sense to me!
This is the second thread from you that Ive had the pleasure of reading and I must say, you are very clever, and I love the way you have presented your research (that anyone can understand, not just acedemics), when Im a little less tired Im going to check out your atlantis/lumeria threads......
Keep up the good work, I look forward to reading more from you!