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Originally posted by Teahupoo
First off I must give you credit for a well researched thread, as a Native American I TOTALLY disagree with the theory that these indigenous people are of African descent. All of the quotes made by another poster here are "THEORIES", not fact.
Here is a quote from one source:
The great majority of scholars who specialise in Mesoamerican history, archaeology and linguistics remain unconvinced by these speculations. Many are more critical and regard the promotion of such unfounded theories as a form of ethnocentric racism at the expense of indigenous Americans. The consensus view maintained across publications in peer-reviewed academic journals that are concerned with Mesoamerican and other pre-Columbian research is that the Olmec and their achievements arose from influences and traditions that were wholly indigenous to the region, or at least the New World, and there is no reliable material evidence to suggest otherwise. They, and their neighbouring cultures with whom they had contact, developed their own characters which were founded entirely on a remarkably interlinked and ancient cultural and agricultural heritage that was locally shared, but arose quite independently of any extra-hemispheric influences.
Now, in regards to your theory of them being ball players, I am not so sure about that either simply due to the fact that many of the ball players were part of sacrificial rituals. The game which is known as Pok Ta Pok by the Maya and Tlachtli by the Aztec often ended in the death of the losing team.
The rubber ball only had to pass through the stone hoop once for a victory.
Below is an image that depicts how the game was played, however the actual hoop was smaller, the ball barely passed through which is why only one point had to be scored for a win.
I lived in the Yucatan for sometime and can tell you that the ball court in Chichen Itza is a sight to behold, it is also the largest of all the Mesoamerican ball courts.
Incidentally, near the court there is a square wall which contains a mound which I believe was for displaying the heads of the decapitated losers. The stone walls were adorned with many individual cases which I believe was to honor those who were sacrificed.
As with anything in the past, what we have to go on are artifacts, stories passed down, DNA testing, etc. To date there is ZERO solid evidence that supports the African colonization theory that to me attempts to deny the strong culture of the native people of this continent.
As someone who has also lived in the region I can tell you that the Mayan people in particular have a body structure and a language unlike no other on the planet.
Peace people. Pay attention to what is going on in 2012, it isn't superstition, it is a cycle the earth goes through and ALL of the ancient civilizations knew it and recognized it.
[edit on 3/14/2009 by Teahupoo]
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[edit on Mon Mar 16 2009 by Jbird]
Originally posted by Phage
One problem with the smashed face theory is that there is other Olmec statuary which has similar facial features but lacks the same headgear and/or for other reasons would not seem to represent ball players.
The "grandmother", I suppose could be a ball player but is certainly of a different style than the heads.
Here are a couple of infants. I don't think they started playing ball this early in life:
It could be that rather than representing injuries, the similarities actually do reflect racial similarities. Or, if the Olmec did not really have african origins it could be nothing more than familial. A bloodline of kings (and sports stars) would tend to have similar features. Still another possibility is that these african-like features were admired by the Olmec and used to idealize the images of their heroes.
[edit on 3/14/2009 by Phage]