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Originally posted by MajesticJax
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
So Hiroshima and Nagasaki were what?
Seriously, I'm not following you.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
Sources on the a-bomb story are quoted. The most impressive one is from a German pilot who describes something he saw while flying near a test zone of some sort. If you read the description, quoted in The Rise of the Fourth Reich, it sounds very like the familiar mushroom cloud like aftermath of an atomic detonation with the spherical shock wave, and wierd colored clouds.
There are several historians in Germany and Austria that have been questioning America’s move towards the 'Alpenfestung.'
Patton was halfway to Berlin and was ordered to turn around to destroy a supposed heavy Nazi fortification in the Austrian Alps, that was more kin to gross exaggeration, and disinfo-propaganda by the Germans. None of the allied forces believed in this BS, but Patton followed orders.
The non-mainstream historians did their research, and found out that apparently a small troop of Americans crossed the Ens, and met a Nazi SS leader at a secret location now identified as the 'Quarz' Bunker in Roggendorf, by Melk.
What little evidence there still is, seems to point towards an agreement reached between the US and the Nazis at 'Quarz' to go into US POW status which violated the agreement reached with the Russians (who were to own any POWs south of the Ens river.
What I learned is...Kind of. The Germans had the plans for the Atomic bomb but because of spies in the Axis, the US was able to steal the plans and use it to their advantage.
To be honest I think that the Nazis knew way more about a lot of things, which we would not know of today if they wouldn't have leaked somewhere. Think about Stealth bombers. The specific colour, which absorbs radar waves, is something the Nazis started experimenting with during WWII.
There are numerous Stories about so called "Motorstopmittel" (More: Motorstoppmittel) just to name a few. Having these aspects of Nazi-warfare in my brain, I do think that they were capable of way more, than they are acknowledged for.
Originally posted by drock905
What uses in war time would 67 tons of mercury/quicksilver have? Someone mentioned conventional muntitions. How so? Are there any other uses?
Originally posted by drock905
What uses in war time would 67 tons of mercury/quicksilver have? Someone mentioned conventional muntitions. How so? Are there any other uses?
Originally posted by Pakd-on-mystery
To be honest I think that the Nazis knew way more about alot of things, which we would not know of today if they wouldn't have leaked somewhere.
- Think about Stealth bombers.
the U-234 was carrying U-235 in metal form, not yellow cake. This makes the capture all the more significant because there would have been enough U-235 to make several bombs. Here is a link to the Wiki article on the sub.
On 25 March, 1945 U-234 departed Kiel for Kristiansand, Norway, commanded by Johann-Heinrich Fehler. She was carrying a cargo that comprised technical drawings, examples of the newest electric torpedoes, two Me 262 jet fighters in crates, a Henschel Hs 293 glide bomb, and 560 kg of uranium oxide which was stored in her mine shafts, contained in about 50 9 inches (230 mm) lead cubes, with "U-235" painted on each.
The exact characteristics of the uranium remain unknown but it is thought that it was not weapons-grade material and was intended for use as a catalyst in the production of synthetic methanol to be used for aviation fuel.
On 16 April, 1945 departed Norway for Japan. On 4 May 1945, Fehler heard of the surrender of German forces in Europe. The following day, May 5, Dönitz ordered all U-boats to cease offensive operations and return to their bases or surrender themselves to the nearest Allied authorities.
They were to surface, fly a black flag, and report their position to the Allies. Fehler suspected a trick and contacted another U-boat (U-873) who convinced him that the message was authentic. Fehler decided that he would surrender to US forces, but radioed on 12 May that he would sail for Halifax, Nova Scotia to surrender to ensure that Canadian units would not reach him first.
In reality, U-234 set course for Newport News, Virginia. The two Japanese passengers, upon learning that the U-boat was to surrender, took an overdose of Luminal (a barbiturate sleeping pill), died in their sleep, and were buried at sea
Capture. The difference between Fehler's reported course to Halifax and his true course was soon realized by US authorities who despatched two destroyers to intercept U-234.
On 14 May 1945 she was intercepted south of the Grand Banks by the USS Sutton. Members of the Sutton's crew took command of the U-boat and sailed her to the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, where U-805, U-873, and U-1228 had already surrendered. News of the U-234's surrender with her high-ranking German passengers made the surrender a major news event. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterseeboot_234