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Topic started on 13-3-2009 @ 09:57 AM by emsed1
I found this site today:

Survival Seed Bank

Notwithstanding the fact that it's obviously a plot (no pun intended) to make money, does anyone have any ideas about these seeds/plants?

Do any of you survival gardeners have recommendations for plants or seeds that would do well in say... Illinois?


reply posted on 15-3-2009 @ 11:15 AM by Cariaddi
Hummmmm I have found "Sunshine Farm" and "Saltspring Seeds"....

there is also Vessys Seeds from PEI (not sure of link), have good words for it.


Great sites ^.^ Not too sure of ones down round ontaria... you coud


reply posted on 18-3-2009 @ 01:53 PM by Aeons

If anyone knows of some good sources for heirloom seeds in Canada, I would appreciate the links as well. [edit on 13-3-2009 by The Utopian Penguin]


What seeds you'd like drastically differs on where you live in Canada. There is a fairly broad spectrum of habitats and zones. What you can grow without supplemental water in those zones can make a very big difference in your choices. What I can grow in my VERY arid section of Alberta isn't the same as what someone in the great lakes region, or west of the mountains can.

Here is my personal suggestion for learning what grows best for your area.

Find the part of your city/town that was built in the first or second world war. Look for the areas that haven't been torn down and infilled. Walk up the alleys during the spring, early summer.

There are people in these areas who still keep their Victory Gardens. These are the gardens put in to help feed families when the food shortages came in. Strike up a conversation with them and ask them what they are planting. Gardeners LOVE to talk about their gardens.

Ask what type of beans, what variety of tomatoes, etc. See if they keep their own seeds. This will give you an idea if those seeds a consistent producers for your climate.

This will give you a very good idea of what can be planted and survive in your area. What has can still be grown by a man or woman in their 80s, and has been being harvested consistently for the past 40-50 years.

www.revivevictorygarden.org...

Plant Hardiness Zones in Canada
sis.agr.gc.ca...

For starters, try the plants that are super easy to grow with little tending needed. Chard, spinach, carrots, pumpkin (seriously, just throw your whole jack o'lattern into your garden and turn under in spring),


reply posted on 19-3-2009 @ 04:13 PM by The Utopian Penguin
reply to post by salchanra



LOL salchanra, Mystery tomatoes I love that.

I guess the point I'm trying to make in regards to seeds in general is that it's great having a cultivated garden close to your house, but it's also a good idea to encourage edibles that grow without too much tending .

Encouraging a few different things like rhubarb or raspberries to grow on the area's of your property that are unattended is a good idea as well. You may not harvest them now but having them makes them a emergency food source.
In my mind it's a good idea to have a few patches of wild wheat or grains on your land springing up each year that you could foster if the SHTF.

If you locate and document Wild edibles in your area and encourage their growth on your land,you basically have a living seed bank you can utilize when times get tough.






[edit on 19-3-2009 by The Utopian Penguin]


reply posted on 7-4-2010 @ 03:12 PM by SurvivalSeedBnk
It is totally true that you should start gardening now, not when you're put in the situation where it's, "grow your own food or starve." Obviously, heirloom seeds are the way to go, but even new strands of open-pollinated seeds are fine--as long as they came about naturally.

The seed banks that you can purchase online are good to have as "back-ups." I have
The Survival Seed Bank. I bought it a few years ago, and decided to try and grow some of the seeds last Spring--just to see how they would do.

I planted the cucumbers, the carrots, and the peas, and am pleased to say, all of them grew, and grew well! The peas are already back again this Spring, the carrots are starting to sprout, and I'm fully confident the cucumbers will be back too.

Buying local heirloom seeds is definitely a great idea, but in my opinion, it doesn't hurt to be prepared for the worst. Start growing now, save your seeds, and I totally think having a back-up seed bank is also a good idea.


reply posted on 7-4-2010 @ 04:56 PM by HerrLuge
Hello,

Well after lurking for a good long while I'll just make my first ATS post by adding my tuppence worth. If you're in the UK there's a really good seed company here:

www.realseeds.co.uk...

They're really keen on you saving your own seed, have lots of handy guides (sowing guides, harvesting guides, seed saving guides etc.) and have lots of heritage varieties. Having ordered quite a bit of seed from them this year it seems really good stuff as I've got plenty of young plants growing.

As an example you can also see their splendid seed saving guide here:

www.realseeds.co.uk...

After all if you're going to make a seed bank then you really do want to start off with quailty seeds !

n.b. To get round the thoroughly ludicrous EU laws (which make it illegal to sell seeds to the public that are not on an approved list... which costs lots of money for your seed to be added to the list...) the first time you order from them you're charged 1p to join their seed club. That way they can legally sell their "unapproved" seed to you as you're a club member. This was the single best penny I have ever spent !

And you can read more about this lunacy in their terms and conditions here:

www.realseeds.co.uk...

I thoroughly recommend them.


reply posted on 7-4-2010 @ 10:08 PM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Originally posted by SurvivalSeedBnk
Everyone says that companies that sell products like this are all about making money, but they're not.


Hmm...

Well $100 for the packaging is pretty damn steep. I mean it is a cool product, but its mainly for anyone who has no intention of growing much of anything unless SHTF.

You can get roughly the same sort of set of seeds from Granny Warriors for $50:
www.grannywarriors.com...

So I'd call the SSB a sort of Plan B as far as seeds go. Fine packaging!

I started off with the Granny Warriors last year and now I have roughly 350 different kinds of seeds!


Note: Those large bags are 1 gallon zip lock bags stuft full of smaller bags. This isn't even my full set... or volume of seeds. For instance, many of the beans I have in the bean bag are just small samples from 1-2pound bags of beans that I took out for the easy to pick thru set as pictured.

Seeds are all around us. Many we throw away while preparing food, or we eat them. For example, beans: You can buy 1+ pound bags of them for about a dollar. Going by planting seed company standards you get perhaps $200 worth of seeds for a buck or so.

So the best thing is to browse any sort of small or big ethnic markets for exotic foreign seeds. I look for seeds everywhere, even in the wild. I buy packs of seeds as well, and the best place to start for those are feed & farms stores. I'm lucky enough to have one near me that sells 1 ounce bags of say (heirloom) broccoli, for $1.75 (about 50x as much as you get from Home Depot brands).

So just keep looking all around as you make your travels. You can even get some heirlooms from the large grocery stores. I've probably found 18 different kinds of heirloom tomatoes at grocery stores in the past year. You get to eat the food and keep the seeds!

Or for peppers, you can obviously keep seeds from produce stands, but even better you can buy those bags of dried peppers typically found in the latino isle or store... and you get about 100,000 seeds for about a dollar (wear rubber gloves!)!!


mmmm... Peppers!

And in my experience, most of the screaming about NEEDING heirloom seeds is hype (sort of like organic produce). Some of my best producing pepper plants came from seeds that I kept from produce or the ethnic dried peppers! I'm up to about 65 different types of peppers seeds/plants so I might have some degree of say in this.

After a while you begin to run out of choice seeds supplies. Like at first you'll walk into some exotic ethnic groceries and be overwhelmed, but eventually you'll end up where you have most of the stuff you encounter... but stuff still turns up and you can always go pick thru the big seed pack displays at Lowes. You can even get heirloom seeds at Lowe's (but not the Home Debit's near me). Both Burpee and Ferry Morse have heirloom seed lines, and if you read the organic packs some are actually heirloom.

The key is dont try to build your seed bank all up front. Stretch it out over the year and in times of plenty go back for the things you had to pass up earlier.


Seed pack rolodex!

And last but not least, trawl thru gardening forums to find seed traders. I've traded with a cool guy that has literally over 6,500 different kinds of seeds.

[edit on 7-4-2010 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]
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