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A Best Kept Secret In Russia???

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posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 10:01 PM
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I know i am going to receive some major criticism about this thread,so go ahead and and criticize me,but something keeps gnawing at me to dig into the ''mystery planet",and i came across an interesting article from a Supposed highly ranked Russian who clams to know some interesting things about the "mystery planet". Can we trust the Russians for good information? Well,check out the link and see what you think. If nothing else,it is interesting.

www.rumormillnews.com...

Also, I didn't post this to argue with anyone,just wanted to see if anyone else thinks this is plausible.



Mod Edit: All Caps – Please Review This Link.

[edit on 12 Mar 2009 by Hellmutt]




posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 10:55 PM
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This has taught us to believe that we have friends-friends who watch
over us, silently. They did not allow then, nor will they allow now, any
planet, comet or asteroid to strike and destroy the Earth. This, for
us, is now absolutely clear.

From: www.rumormillnews.com...

This new one (for me) is interesting, it would be nice to have a species of guardian over us, I like that ... something optimistic for a change


Interesting find CASH, there is already some pretty wild theories about Tunguska. I've got reading for the evening, as the girls are asleep.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


The only people to see the massive explosion were the Evenki people, reindeer herders indigenous to Siberia. They believed the explosion was caused by a revengeful "lord of thunder."

www.cnn.com...


In scientific circles, the leading explanation for the explosion is the airburst of a meteoroid 6–10 kilometres (4–6 miles) above Earth's surface.

en.wikipedia.org...

home.earthlink.net...

paranormal.about.com...

[edit on 12-3-2009 by grandnic] adding links and quote as I read


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posted on Mar, 13 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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Im glad you like. This is very interesting and more people need to read this. I believe the Russians could have a wealth of ufo information that goes over looked. People just need to be a little more open minded.



posted on Mar, 13 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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I thought this was Russia's best kept secret.


Location. Moscow, Russia
Date: 1530’s-1540’s
Time: unknown
A stunning discovery was made by academician and anthropologist Dr. Rudolph Vanzhaev who at the end of the 20th century was reconstructing the facial features of the famous Russian Tsar Ivan the Fourth (or Ivan the Terrible). Dr. Vanzhaev discovered a diminutive metallic plate in Ivan’s skull while he studied it. The strange artifact a little more than one centimeter in diameter, remotely resembled a complicated electronic mechanism. The Doctor concluded that this object somehow increased the intellectual abilities of the Tsar but at the same time, caused his periodic uncontrolled fits of anger. The tiny metallic object with sharp teeth-like protrusions was discovered quite accidentally. Dr. Vanzhaev was studying the exhumed skeleton of Ivan the Terrible, attempted to find the physiological cause of his death (later it was established that the Tsar’s bones contained a huge quantity of mercury, or quicksilver). Moving his hand along the inner surface of Ivan’s skull, Vanzhaev felt a small protrusion. Trying to see it better, he took a large magnifying glass and saw something very small and metallic, halfway covered by bone tissue. The device was similar to an electronic chip used in computers or other electronic equipment. When the device was studied closing, using different kinds of techniques and equipment it appeared to be a miniature transmitter of electric impulses to the brain and the heart. Such impulses, emphasized Dr. Vanzhaev, sharply increased the brain’s ability to solve the difficult intellectual tasks but at the same time, created various collateral effects that influenced the man’s psyche. The layer of bone tissue that had grown around the metallic device was quite noticeable. This meant according to Vanzhaev, that when Ivan was “implanted” he had been quite young, possibly in his childhood. Ivan the Terrible was born in 1530, so the supposed alien abduction had apparently occurred during the 1530’s or 1540’s. He became the “Great Duke of all Russia” in 1533 and the Tsar in 1547, and died in 1584. The historic detail in favor of this assumption is that it was known that Ivan the Terrible had the habit of placing his hand on his head, even though he never complained to his doctors of feeling any pains in his head. Another Moscow based researcher Vladimir Alexeevich Smemshuk also mentioned in his books that Ivan the Terrible was under “alien control” and experienced several humanoid encounters at night when he was alone in his bedroom.

HC addendum
Source: Alexander Bogatikov in: “Inoplanetyanin” (Extraterrestrial newspaper) Ukraine, January 9 2005

www.ufoinfo.com...

Cheers



posted on Mar, 13 2009 @ 12:57 PM
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Without even considering the misspelling of half the names used, I think there's little question this Russian report is bunk. Amateurish to boot. So now some Russian is picking up on Sitchin.

Interestingly the Russians were once very proactive in experimenting on New Age fields like telepathy, remote viewing, telekinesis, etc.

Also interesting the rash of alien and UFO sighting right after the USSR fell. I think revealingly the aliens all looked wrong. 18 feet tall and like giant insects more than the Western model for being slim with enlarged eyes and heads.

This to me demonstrates how culture based the phenomenon is.


Mike F



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posted on Mar, 13 2009 @ 01:03 PM
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reply to post by karl 12
 


Fascinating,and very interesting. Nice find!



posted on Mar, 13 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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Interesting observation,but in most abduction cases,some report small and large greys aboard these craft. Researching the history of aliens back to biblical days,you find extensive reports of giant beings. And it has been found that such beings skeletons have been found all over the world. It is said that this has been covered up because it would destroy Darwin's theory.
www.stevequayle.com...
This link contains a wealth of information on this subject.



posted on Mar, 14 2009 @ 03:10 AM
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Originally posted by CASH69
reply to post by mmiichael
 


... in most abduction cases,some report small and large greys aboard these craft. Researching the history of aliens back to biblical days,you find extensive reports of giant beings. And it has been found that such beings skeletons have been found all over the world. It is said that this has been covered up because it would destroy Darwin's theory.

This link contains a wealth of information on this subject.



With all due respect I don't think it's even conceivable that there would be suppression of discoveries of giants to protect the Evolution Theory. For one thing, it would not affect it in the slightest. There were dinosaurs that were a hundred feet in length, head to tail. And ones that stood 40 feet high. And there were ones that would fit into the palm of your hand.

The largest living humans approached 9 feet tall. One guy who was 8 foot 8 died not long ago.

I don't know what size you consider giants. Due to system considerations like blood flow demanding a certain amount of pressure, the time it takes for nerve impulses to travel, the amount of weight a frame would have to support on an exceptionally tall person, etc - it would be very difficult for a human being much over ten feet tall to even be able to stand up and walk.

But I'm open to any solid information you have on gigantic skeletons or similar evidence.


Mike F

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posted on Mar, 14 2009 @ 04:31 AM
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CASH....I'm having difficulty reading this because of the spelling. Is it a translation error?

Also.....let's get the so-called 'Niburu' definition straight. Some like to think it is on an eccentric orbit, and is coming in near to the inner Solar System, thusly disrupting the orbits of the rocky planets (Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars) or, as this article claims....it follows the same orbit as Earth, but is just exactly 180 degrees off, so we never see it.

Let's start with the second notion first. OK....nolw, there is no danger whatsoever.

The first claim....well...again, the Solar System is a big place. Really, really really big!

IF there were such an object that occasionally came near the Sun on a regular basis, even if on an eccentric orbit.....it would have happened over and over and over again, long before WE evolved....and, likely in the Billions of years, would have disrupted the orbits of the smaller inner planets to a degree such that WE would never have evolved to be discussing it now!!!



posted on Mar, 14 2009 @ 04:38 AM
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What if after those billions of years of this thing comming around, had given the solar system its current configuration, as well as placed everything in the right place, for the right time, for us to evolve and be here discussing it now?

Just the flip side of the coin to look at.


Cheers!!!!



posted on Mar, 14 2009 @ 04:52 AM
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Burns.....well, that's a philosophical argument, indeed.

I just don't think orbital mechanics work quite that way.

Besides.....this so-called 'Nibiru' (or is it 'Niburu'?) would have to be extremely massive, to affect the inner planets. AND it would have to be near to them, long enough, for its gravitational field to cause an effect.

Based on the websites, they claim 'Nibiru' to be inhabited. Well, then it can't be very massive, or else the inhabitants would have to have super strength just to move.

Still.....IF this planet 'X' exists, and it is on a very eccentric orbit that only brings it near the Sun say, every 10,000 years or so....that means it is orbiting in a ellipse (as all planets do....just, most planet's ellipses are nearly circular, not ovate).

This would mean that the object would travel extremely fast, near the Sun. Its orbit would increase in speed as it neared, it would whip around and continue outward....gradually slowing, slowing, slowing until it began the next cycle inward.

Also, this planet 'X'....we don't know if it is within the general plane of rotation of the Solar System, or very eccentric to that plane.

Sidenote: It has been postulated that Jupiter has been a sort of 'herder'...because of its mass. A stabilizing force in the Solar System.

Again, just an hypothesis.....



posted on Mar, 14 2009 @ 07:59 AM
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Hiya Weedwhacker, good thinking. From whatever direction I approach the idea of Nibiru, it can't stand up. Whereas you've presented a reasonable argument, I'll be blunt. I'm prepared to eat my underwear, or anyone else's for that matter, if Nibiru appears in my lifetime. The only good thing about all the nonsense and hype is that at least a few of the believers will develop better critical thinking skills


I almost hope that nothing important happens in 2012 so that they can't claim prescience or credibility. Unfortunately, the next Mars mission will investigate the methane output between 2011 and 2012. Imagine microbial life being found in 2012
The BS salesmen will reap the benefits from the gullible. Hardly bares thinking about...




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