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I remember when that site used to list mysite as someone that put out disinfo and yet mysite was locked down and classifed so called national security because there were documents there that exposed black projects among other things.

There are plenty of disinfo agents here at ats ive seen my fair share of them over the years ive been here people that attack someone and there view point or ideas just because they can or any attempt that person or persons can do to derail the subject matter being discussed at the time.

The problem is if we ban them or try to get rid of them they scream to high heaven your censoring my rights to freedom of speach blah blah blah yada yada yada.

Heres my rule of thumb when it comes to disinfo or information that is real that this or another government is trying to discredit. If that information no matter what it is the media that hour or that day comes out with a news story to spin down the orginal story that came out they have something to hide or theres something else there the media or someone involved with the story doesnt want out.

Another good example is if a outside source either by hacking or a direct attempt to shut down your opperations depending on what they are for instance a small example being the exposer of human trafficing. Say you get a name or a location of a group involved in human trafficing and then you have x, y, and z groups or governments that go out of there way to pull in some agency or group saying we already have that information on that location were handling it exc.

Often if a agency or group has something to hide they will either come out with a cover story to say they have that information or its a disclosed story then you see the story disappear within days and something else entirely will come out to explain away the first story that came out.

I remember being called a disinfo agent until the people here on ats took a look at information that I put out that didnt come out in some cases for months and in some cases years and some stuff I have put out that still hasnt happened but in the end most of the time I sadly have been right here more then I have been wrong.

You have to be careful when you get anything either from the media the military or even a private corp each one of them have there own agenda's and plans to break down the other for there own selfserving ends. One person on a topic that relates to this one on a post that I saw not that long ago mentioned about the AP at least having to do a retraction when they publish something thats false.

Thats why even when I was still running my site I used to stick with as much AP stories as I could even if the gov tried to discredit me or my site or stories they would have to go after the authors at the AP first. And the same thing goes for Government documents published here or that come out of any government not excluded to the united states. Something published from MI6 or MI5 or Ministry of Defense or some other agency in britan is more then capeable of making up false and misleading information.

The real way to tell if you have a sceptic or a disinfo agent is most sceptic's are disinfo agents especially if there going out of there way to put in misleading information into the topic titles or discussion at hand. Considering how big ats is to where it was when it first started off with a few hundered members I think the staff here does a fine job at stemming off as much disinfo as they can.

On the subject of disinfo and people having nothing to hide lets for starters take a long look at how many websites and information sites have been shut down both under bill clinton and under george bush in the last 20 years for having for instance a decenting opinon. I know news reporters that have been arrested for writing negitive stories about george w. bush and still are waiting for the courts to straiten out there cases.

How many times was either executive privilage used to hide information and how many times was national security used in the last 8 years under bush and the 8 years under clinton to hide information that has been exposed on ats and other places.

And how many of those stories have just disappeared or hardly if any media coverage on them I will give you a perfact example "Jeff Gannon" how quickly did that story disapper huh? Weeks if that as I recall that story disappared if not within a week but within days and websites related to it were also shut down.

I remember the secret service documents being released to me and a few other people in the media just because people that were in the secret service had seen too many things covered up under bush and the people trying to get out that story didnt want to see it disappear. People that are invloved in disinfo went out of there way then to make that and alot of other stories just vanish and despite sometimes running into brick walls here at ats we do pretty good here considering how big this site is.

I know people in the media in fox and cnn and other large media outlets get paid to spew glittering generalities among there watered down and in many cases false and misleading information stories everyday and gov and the people do in many cases nothing to hold either gov or the media's feet to the fire.

For now we have ats and a few other sites that make coverstations and postings like this possible I have a feeling however that wont be much longer with this new administration unless measures are taken to keep the new Mr. Obama's hands off the internet and freedom of speach but dont hold your breath.

I have the feeling it will take a court case a number of named reporters going to jail for a while before this will straiten out and even if it does that doesnt mean that people that put out disinfo are going away anytime soon.

Thats my 2 cents for now.

Falcon