Originally posted by daeoeste
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Wow. That zeppelin analogy is a perfect way for a rational person to see the ultimate futility of an argument for Israels right to exist.
Unfortunately, no one with this perfect insight (in my opinion) was there who had the clout to spread this message before Israel was created. Once it
was created, it held and continues to hold a right to exist. Now it is too late, the fundamentalist powers on both sides will insure violence and
martyrdom are the staples of life there.
In my humble opinion the whole trio of religions were designed to divide and conquer and keep human kind focused on semantics and petty differences of
protocol over a divine all powerful deity who appears to be little more than the equivalent of a New York City slum lord if in fact he exists at all.
He seems utterly content to sit back and watch people kill, rape, torture and starve each other in his name. Somehow this is viewed to benevolent and
wise because this book says so. Who wrote the book? Who knows or why. We know it's been rewritten lots of times, who knows or why.
That sad and scary part is a more telling question...who cares? None of them seem to as they have at each other in processes that basically disregard
every tenet and principle of the book they all keep pointing too and thumping to validate the violence and politics that lead to it.
No one can solve the dispute and no one of the three factions is really inclined to because no one can authoritatively convince the other two that
their book is more correct than the other guys.
They just keep pointing to their book and thumping on the book and saying the book says!
This thread is in fact about a book that validates another book. See this book says that what this book says is right, and you are wrong if you don't
believe this book and that book!
Personally I don't care what the book says! I don't care what anyone who says the book is important or not important has to say about the book or
why we should like and agree with the book or hate and disagree with the book. I don't really care who says what in regards to the history that
people try to twist to support their conclusions that they then imagine validates their actions for what they do.
I actually really care about what people do. The facts of what people do speak for themselves. If you pull out a gun and shoot me the facts speak for
themselves. I have a hole in my now, I don't care what you say or write about in a book to justify, excuse, explain, validate or promote shooting me.
I care about the facts of your actions and of course the hole the gun shot left in me. I have no doubt someone will spin a book that says I deserved
the hole in me and it had to be done, I have no doubt someone else will make money by writing another book or starting another movement that says no
it was wrong to put a hole in me.
I care about what people do and not what they say, and well it's a little nuts to say the least to run around killing people, stealing land, making
people homeless and initiate wars over a book the invisible man bad slum lord is attributed to authoring. Yeah, yeah I know he will stop by after we
get all this mess cleaned up like the book says we should.
I can tell you this, if I steal my neighbors house, kill him, rob his possessions their isn't a judge in the United States who is going to let me off
because the Bible somehow can be interpreted in my eyes to justify it.
Why we let entire nations get away with nonsense like that is really nuts when we wouldn't let any individual get away with it.
I care about what people do not what they say. People say lots of things that they don't mean or believe and turn around and prove it by their
actions.
People in these cults that sprang up out of the Middle East all based on the Hebrew G-d and all arguing over what he said and who is good and bad or
right and wrong say all kinds of nonsense to justify their bad actions.
Hint for anyone who wants peace. It can be had by getting to know and love your neighbor and enemies, not by thumping a book and killing them because
they don't agree with the book.
Talk to them, share with them, love them, treat them with kindness and respect and chances are they won't care which book you read or how you
interpret it.
Israel and even possibly Iran would each spend billions of dollars killing each other in a futile attempt to eliminate each other or force the other
to accept their book.
Here is a novel idea, spend a 2 million dollars Iran on donating a public Library or two stuffed full of rare first edition books to Israel and some
nice works of Persian art.
Israel spend a couple million dollars donating a public Library or two stuffed full of rare first edition books to Iran and some nice works of Jewish
Art.
Have some tea, coffee and baklava together while you are thanking one another. Pull out your wallet and show each other a picture of your kids, then
talk about why you like your Mercedes better and listen to why they love their Toyota, and rather than tell them they are wrong, say you know what,
the next time I am ready to buy a car I will try one of those first and take it for a test drive, you know just in case you are right.
I guess their aren't any common sense how to make peace books on the market?
Words do not equal actions. Actions speak for themselves.
No one wants to admit they are acting poorly even though we all can see everyone is.
So they keep pointing to books to justify it.
At the end of the day all they are really trying to justify is nothing spiritual, progressive or loving, but putting holes in each other and
destroying things.
It's a pretty sad state of affairs. There is not a book in the world that is ever going to justify it in my mind.
People just need to learn to get along and leave the silly books at home.
Love
