Originally posted by ForAiur
There are indications that the documents originated in Russia and were distributed for the purpose of anti-Semitic propaganda.

yeah, thats what it says in the OP

Originally posted by ForAiur
There are indications that the documents originated in Russia and were distributed for the purpose of anti-Semitic propaganda.

The fact that a century later people are still using qualified language "there are indications" to characterize something that has been shown to be a forged document incorporating material from anti-Jesuit tracts and political satires of the 19th Century indicates something.

No conspiracy theory ever dies. They just rest for a while until someone decides they are useful to push forward an agenda. Then they can be reintroduced to a new audience with claims of historical pedigree.

Originally posted by MrPenny

Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
Why should having suffered be some sort of social currency?? Who in this world hasn't suffered or experienced abuse at some point in his or her life? Appealing to suffering is simply a way to take rational arguments out of the equation.

It literally sickens me to think that I literally am breathing the same air. Turn your question around....why shouldn't it carry some social currency?

Because then people with depressive mood disorders should be given millions, normal people really don't know about that kind of suffering.

It is basically a lifelong sentence of depression with only a few glimpses of what a normal life should be all about.

Besides, how many currently living jews have been abused by nazis?
If we start somewhere then where's the limit?

Everyone can claim their ancestors suffered, so what.. biblical times are over, YOU didn't suffer at the hands of ancient warlords. We can't go crazy about events that happened to our ancestors hundreds if not thousands of years ago.

Everybody goes through pain, that's life. Suffering. We need to deal with it.

I am glad for this thread. Reason I found it. I had been looking at a blog talking about whislteblower who claims that 9/11 was carried out by Zionists for the purpose of attacking Israel's enemy. Oh yeahhh----like 9/11 hasn't BENEFITED the whole godamned rich elite and their lackies....? But there is this neo Nazi (however scapegaoting Jewishpeople goes further back than that) focus on Jews who they NOW call 'Zionists'---to be politically correct no doubt. They dont mind them being the 'wandering Jews' just dont get a country hey mate like us----us who have trhe sun shining outta OUR arses, oh yeah, we are so sweet and pure alright. RIGHT!

But anyhow the above poster claims

Besides, how many currently living jews have been abused by nazis? If we start somewhere then where's the limit?

Well NOW...good enough for ya? I have recently read in a mainstream newspaper that Jews living in Germany have been warned not to wear anything that may allow people to know they are Jewish for their own safety, because so many attacks are happening to Jewish people there and their property. So understand that scapegoating people DOES have a bad effect. If you aint learned the lesson of Nazi Germany what they hell does it take?

I'll admit I don't know much about the whole Zionist conspiracy except for what I've read here and of course little things I picked up from other threads.

I have noticed Jews have their own communities and tend to stick with each other,but it's probably a cultural thing.Something that's been that way for centuries and probably the reason why they're so successful.Money stays within the community and by the time the lil jews have grown up they have enough stashed away to start their own business. For example Bar Mitzvahs...they usually give away money.

I've also noticed their parents are also successful and come from successful backgrounds so it's probably just good genes.

It's probably all of the above that has made them such easy targets.Culturally they're just a step ahead of us.

I doubt they're out to get us.

There's nothing that makes it impossible for us to be just as successful. We're the only thing standing in our way and by believing there's some mysterious group of people that are hell bent on stopping you from achieving your dreams and aspirations will only sabotage you. No one can steal your freedom from you it's been proven countless times in history. They never get away with it...not for long,though.

Maybe if we started looking out for each other instead of trying cut each others throats we wouldn't have such crappy lives.