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reply posted on 13-3-2009 @ 01:48 PM by burntheships
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Alongside the greatest loss, that would be personal freedom, you are looking at a Totalitarianism system. That is put simply: everything you do and have is put under the state "power".

Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is nuts!

Who in thier riight mind is dreaming and hoping for a "World Leader" to demand of us to give everything you have...give me your will, your hopes and dreams, money and possesions and leave them with me.

Get to work slaves!



reply posted on 13-3-2009 @ 02:16 PM by burntheships
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Really...you want to live in a totalitarianism nation? Go to China. Have you ever heard of Tianemen Square? Lay down and let a tank drive over you?

No the opposite of a Totalitarianism State is The United States of America...The Declaration of Independence...The Constituion of The United States of America...which states:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience has shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

www.ushistory.org...

seriously...you would prefer China?



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reply posted on 13-3-2009 @ 02:41 PM by Annee
Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by Annee


Really...you want to live in a totalitarianism nation? Go to China. Have you ever heard of Tianemen Square? Lay down and let a tank drive over you?


I have a friend FOB China. She thinks the USA should be more like China.

Waco - - there will always be extreme situations everywhere.

Again - it is logical to me that middle ground will be more the norm.


reply posted on 13-3-2009 @ 05:55 PM by cognoscente
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Global currency does not equal global statehood. An international world government is the ideal, and that is what we should be pursuing. Regional law should be decentralized. There is no need for a uniform constitution. That would not accurately reflect the political locality of the world's numerous different cultures and societies. All international standards would act as ideal baselines, one which each nation aspires to achieve, drafted by concession by each nation. Goals would include economic integration, political stability, minimization of arms, universal human rights and freedoms, and whatever else everything sees as necessary. Public office in these positions would not be allowed to be held by private citizens. They would give up their rights and become a different level of citizen, one which is accountable to stricter laws and restrictions of personal freedoms.

Each nation on the planet would hold an obligation to printing a quota of the share of money, based on their share in a proportion of the global population. It would be totally decentralized. Money would more accurately reflect the economic value of any region, all else equal. Countries such as Russia wouldn't suffer in terms of their purchasing power if say the price of oil declined, or similarly in Ukraine where their only major export is steel. All natural resources would be deemed the common heritage of everyone on the planet, no matter where the resources sit. Access to those resources are distributed through competition.

The value of the money would be based on a basket of goods that are equally represented across the worlds' economies. These goods would be technological and informational in nature, and not resource-based, as the former goods can be produced just about anywhere capital is sufficient.

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reply posted on 13-3-2009 @ 06:21 PM by burntheships
Originally posted by cognoscente
reply to post by burntheships

The value of the money would be based on a basket of goods that are equally represented across the worlds' economies. These goods would be technological and informational in nature, and not resource-based, as the former goods can be produced just about anywhere capital is sufficient.


Your assertion that goods can be produced anywhere capitol is sufficient is entirely faulty. No way, no how.

For example, The State of California is the Worlds largest producer of produce. Show me another California.

And to put this thread back on topic, as you deviated from the topic of a one world currency with your Orwellian Propaganda Statement about One World Order...

I agree with you in that a One world currency is not equal to a Totalitarianism State. I did not assert or say it was equal...I do however assert that it is the means to accomplish such.

Brainwashing starts early...

www.imf.org...

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reply posted on 13-3-2009 @ 06:46 PM by Fox News
reply to post by Annee


Your friend is pretty stupid then.. Its china who is trying to be more like the US.

And if the US was a third world nation, it too would grow at 8-10% yearly...Of course if the US shifted to the fairtax, it could easily grow at 5-10% GDP annually.


reply posted on 13-3-2009 @ 06:59 PM by cognoscente
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Of course the issue of who would command control of the printing of this money would be important.

And yes, if you have a computer, a power supply, an education and sufficient programming and marketing knowledge (along with access to the resources you need) you can produce just about anything. Relegate agriculture and industrial production to machinery. People shouldn't bear the fruits of the Earth just because they happen to own property where these products are to be found. Only invention and ingenuity should be rewarded, for those qualities alone can claim to benefit society for the better. The fact is most of the world is forming its own optimal currency area. The expansion of trade with petroleum-based land, naval and aerospace transportation, the increasing redundancy of nation-states in regulating economic activity, the growing influence of the firm, and the rapid creation rate of new information is making it economically inopportune not to engage in global integration. Why is that forex traders are even able to make money? They're exploiting a resource ownership differential between people who by chance control a significant portion of a valued good in any one economic region. Very little of those exchanges are reflected in comparative advantages of business originating in any of the countries concerned.

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reply posted on 13-3-2009 @ 07:18 PM by Annee
Originally posted by Fox News
reply to post by Annee


Your friend is pretty stupid then.. Its china who is trying to be more like the US.


Stupid? Are you Chinese? I don't remember reading anything about you living in China.

And I did not specify how she felt the US should be more like China.




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reply posted on 13-3-2009 @ 07:39 PM by Fox News
reply to post by wonderworld


i think a digital world is cool,and totally inevitable...but i can see the problems your suggesting... if this # got into the wrong hands...well that wouldnt be cool.
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