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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:06 PM by Bosko
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Is this good or bad? Or is it just a normal occasional thing that happens? Just curious because it looks interesting.
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:07 PM by SunnyDee
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From what i've read on this recently, the magnetosphere has a big hole in it, and allows fierce solar winds in. I remember reading one opinion that
the lack of solar flares is what is stopping this hole from closing. Scientists believe the solar flares or sunspots, which we have not had for many
months, recharge the magnetospere. Now, I am completely unscientific, but if the earth is having outer protection issues, it would explain a few
things we know about, lke meteors that have been seen lately in Canada and Texas, and probably would explain the reason, there are worries at the ISS
and the space shuttle not taking off the other day.
BTW, I am new here, well been loitering many years, but just signed up.
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:07 PM by airteck
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Here is what its supposed to look like when it's going to flip. Not there yet.
NASA's model for reversal.
source
No need to be worried yet, but I'll definitely keep my eye on it. Thanks for the good find.
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:07 PM by Zaphod58
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Someone already posted a link saying that there was a coronal hole that would be hitting us by tomorrow. It's not just sun spots that affect the
magnetosphere.
spaceweather.com...
A coronal hole releases solar winds which also affect the magnetosphere.
Earth has a magnetic field, too. It forms a bubble around our planet called the magnetosphere, which deflects solar wind gusts. (Mars, which does
not have a protective magnetosphere, has lost much of its atmosphere as a result of solar wind erosion.) Earth's magnetic field and the IMF come into
contact at the magnetopause: a place where the magnetosphere meets the solar wind. Earth's magnetic field points north at the magnetopause. If the
IMF points south -- a condition scientists call "southward Bz" -- then the IMF can partially cancel Earth's magnetic field at the point of
contact.
spaceweather.com...
The solar wind is not uniform. Although it is always directed away from the Sun, it changes speed and carries with it magnetic clouds, interacting
regions where high speed wind catches up with slow speed wind, and composition variations. The solar wind speed is high (800 km/s) over coronal
holes and low (300 km/s) over streamers. These high and low speed streams interact with each other and alternately pass by the Earth as the Sun
rotates. These wind speed variations buffet the Earth's magnetic field and can produce storms in the Earth's magnetosphere
solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov...
[edit on 3/12/2009 by Zaphod58]
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:09 PM by Bosko
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Yeah it definitely doesn't look that messed up right now. Thanks for posting that.
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:10 PM by guinnessford
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My question is, what does the red and blue represent? are they the poles?
I can see where they are going, and how they are shifting.
Also the convection map is fairly easy to follow.
Just unsure of how to read it.
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:10 PM by Chadwickus
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reply to post by questioningall
Did you miss the post on the first page by operation mindcrime
The site he links to says:
CORONAL HOLE:
Extreme UV telescopes onboard the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) are monitoring a dark hole in the sun's atmosphere
Coronal holes are vast regions where the sun's magnetic field opens up and allows the solar wind to escape. A stream of solar wind flowing from this
hole is heading for Earth now. Arctic sky watchers should be alert for Northern Lights when it arrives late on March 12th or March 13th.
So it's a day early, I guess it's hard to predict how fast it's going to travel, but close enough don't you think?
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:11 PM by questioningall
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Actually --- sorry....... but that is not fact.
The links provided do not show anything impacting our field when the field went down..........
Please look at everything provided in links and information - before implying anything other than what is fact and has been occuring.
Please research yourself, and come back and show us, if there has been any event like this in the Earth's history.
I have been researching it all morning, and I have yet found anything, that shows this type of event with our magnetic field.
I have also provided in a link above a "real time" gamma bursts that we are receiving right now.................... guess what.............. you can
go back in history right there on the page and look a few years back............... guess what?? you will find we are receiving right now... more
than we have before.
I will insert them in my next post, since they won't fit here.
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:13 PM by questioningall
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Does it say somewhere that this has caused our magnet field to fold up before - when this has happened previously?
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:15 PM by questioningall
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link: grb.sonoma.edu...
GRB 090310 2009/03/10 04:32:49.90 Fermi 12:07:00 -38:42:00
GRB 090309B 2009/03/09B 18:25:07.19 Fermi 11:13:00 -55:01:00
GRB 090309A 2009/03/09 23:29:13 Swift 18:59:53.51 -25:15:39.8
GRB 090308 2009/03/08 18:01:23 Swift 12:14:00.28 -48:49:01.6
GRB 090308B 2009/03/08 17:36:24.70 Fermi 01:30:00 58:05:00
GRB 090307B 2009/03/07 10:34:00 Fermi 14:36:00 04:00:58.60
GRB 090307A 2009/03/07 03:46:37 Swift 16:19:58.64 -28:37:59.9
GRB 090306B 2009/03/06 23:07:02 Swift 15:24:49 -06:57:29
GRB 090306A 2009/03/06 13:54:24 Swift 01:06:58.31 -50:00:07.4
GRB 090306C 2009/03/06 05:52:05.35 Fermi 09:00:00 51:36:00
GRB 090305 2009/03/05 05:19:51 Swift 16:07:02 -31:34:00
GRB 090305B 2009/03/05 01:14:35.72 Fermi 10:20:00 68:06:00
GRB 090304 2009/03/04 05:10:48.16 Fermi 16:25:00 -80:54:00
GRB 090301B 2009/03/01 07:33:37.98 Fermi 23:21:00 09:00:00
GRB 090301A 2009/03/01 06:55:55 Swift 22:32:34 26:38:32
GRB 090228 2009/02/28 04:53:20.91 Fermi 07:07:00 -24:18:00
GRB 090227B 2009/02/27 18:31:01.41 Fermi 11:48:36 32:10:12
GRB 090227 2009/02/27 07:25:57.00 Fermi 00:13:00 -43:06:00
GRB 080226 2009/02/26 14:52:42.17 Fermi 10:29:00 14:30:00
GRB 090222 2009/02/22 04:17:09.58 Fermi 08:01:00 43:24:00
GRB 090219 2009/02/19 01:46:18.15 Fermi 01:05:36 60:12:00
GRB 090217 2009/02/17 04:56:42.56 Fermi 14:08:00 -02:48:00
GRB 090213 2009/02/13 05:39:25.46 Fermi 21:48:00 -53:30:00
GRB 090207 2009/02/07 18:39:10.84 Fermi 16:19:00 36:49:00
GRB 090205 2009/02/05 23:03:14 Swift 14:43:38.69 -27:51:09.6
GRB 090202 2009/02/02 08:19:30.40 Fermi 17:56:00 -02:30:00
GRB 090201 2009/02/01 17:47:02 Swift 06:08:07 -46:35:10
GRB 090129 2009/01/29 21:07:15 Swift 17:56:25.1 -32:47:34.8
GRB 090126C 2009/01/26 05:52:33.73 Fermi 14:52:00 39:12:00
GRB 090126B 2009/01/26 05:26:22.23 Fermi 19:42:00 33:12:00
GRB 090126A 2009/01/26 02:01:15 SuperAGILE 00:15:23.5 81:21:53.78
GRB 090123A 2009/01/23 07:51:56 Swift 00:27:06 -23:30:50
GRB 090123 2009/01/23 07:51:56 Swift 00:27:08.74 -23:30:03.9
GRB 090118 2009/01/18 13:54:02 Swift 03:19:28 18:28:40
GRB 090117A 2009/01/17 15:21:54 SuperAgile 10:56:10.66 -58:14:00.8
GRB 090117C 2009/01/17 15:10:40.18 Fermi 07:50:00 -40:18:00
GRB 090117B 2009/01/17 08:02:02.23 Fermi 15:32:00 27:36:00
GRB 090113A 2009/01/13 18:40:39 Swift 02:08:17 33:27:23
GRB 090113 2009/01/13 18:40:39 Swift 02:08:16.63 33:25:42.9
GRB 090112B 2009/01/12 17:30:15.45 Fermi 12:15:00 2212:00
GRB 090112A 2009/01/12 07:57:23.11 Fermi 07:27:00 -30:17:00
GRB 090111A 2009/01/11 23:58:21 Swift 16:46:34 00:05:27
GRB 090111 2009/01/11 23:58:21 Swift 16:46:42.21 00:04:36.8
GRB 090109 2009/01/09 07:58:29.49 Fermi 08:11:00 54:48:00
GRB 090108B 2009/01/08 07:43:23.36 Fermi 00:15:00 -32:12:00
GRB 090108A 2009/01/08 00:29:02.37 Fermi 17:32:00 52:28:00
GRB 090107B 2009/01/07 16:20:40 INTEGRAL 18:59:22 59:36:25
GRB 090107B 2009/01/07 16:20:36 INTEGRAL 18:59:16.21 59:35:42.3
GRB 090107A 2009/01/07 04:48:04 Swift 20:09:42 04:43:38
GRB 090107A 2009/01/07 04:48:04 Swift 20:09:38.2 04:44:37.9
GRB 090102 2009/01/02 02:55:45 Swift 08:32:58.54 33:06:51.2
these are what we have received so far this year, the other years won't fit, goes back to 2004. but you can see them yourself at the site provided.
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:15 PM by operation mindcrime
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ohh come on there Questionall, even you know that showing a picture of the sun today has nothing to do with something effecting the earth right
now.....it takes some time for a solar flare to reach earth...so instead of showing a current sun activity picture, show one of march 10th 2009...in
this you'll find your answer...
Peace
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:16 PM by Zaphod58
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reply to post by questioningall
Yeah, that huge coronal hole releasing all those high speed solar winds certainly wouldn't be affecting our magnetic field, despite the fact that
they have in the past.
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:19 PM by Divinorumus
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Originally posted by operation mindcrime
..so instead of showing a current sun activity picture, show one of march 10th 2009...in this you'll find your answer...
You can search through the archive here:
stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov...
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:20 PM by questioningall
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Okay, I did as you suggested................
here ya go............... from link: www.swpc.noaa.gov...
now here is a graph of solar flares since March 10th............
Jeez................. am I missing anything?????? Please show me, where there has been a "major" flare............ that would cause our magnetic
field to do what it has done today..........
I will look forward to you pointing out that "Huge" flare..... on this chart I provided.
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:21 PM by bamaoutlaw
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could this be the cause of the massive sand storm in the middle east? i think it happened a couple days ago, i have seen pics on yahoo hugh storm
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:23 PM by guinnessford
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I forget the exact words, but ill try here....
It makes no difference, or will do no good to point fingers and asess blame.
All that is important is to find the cause, and avert the failure the next time.
What im saying is... why argue about whos right, what time it happened.
How about going to the root and finding out WHAT happened, and WHAT is the consequence?
Evey person on this thread is intelligent in my opinion.
Why bicker?
Why argue?
Wouldnt we get further in an analasys if we werent fighting?
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:24 PM by questioningall
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:24 PM by Zaphod58
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www.youtube.com...
Magnetospheric behavior is strongly influenced by the solar wind, the supersonic stream of charged particles flowing out from the Sun. The most
familiar manifestation of the magnetosphere's interaction with the solar wind is the aurora -- the Northern and Southern Lights. These colorful
displays result from the impact of magnetospheric charged particles with the gases of the Earth's upper atmosphere. Especially spectacular auroras
are associated with "space storms," magnetospheric disturbances in the solar wind. In addition to triggering intense auroral activity, geomagnetic
storms can damage spacecraft, disrupt communications, and lead to power blackouts. It is thus important to understand such storms and be able to
predict them.
www.swri.org...
Like all solar storms, the September storm distorted the shape of the magnetic field that surrounds the Earth. Without buffeting from the solar
wind (charged particles like protons and electrons that are ejected from the Sun), the Earth’s magnetic field would look something like a plump
doughnut, with the North and South poles forming the slender hole in the center. In reality, the nearly constant solar winds flatten the space side of
the “doughnut” into a long tail. The amount of distortion changes when solar storms, such as the flare on September 7, send stronger winds towards
the Earth. Changes to the magnetic field release fast-moving particles, which flow with charged particles from the Sun towards the center of the
“doughnut” at the Earth’s poles. As the particles sink into the atmosphere, they collide with oxygen and nitrogen, lighting the sky with
Nature’s version of neon lights, the aurora.
earthobservatory.nasa.gov...
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:24 PM by operation mindcrime
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Thanks for the link Divinorumus....notice the lage coronal hole in the upper middle picture??
Of course there is the off change of this magnetosphere disturbance is caused by the magnetic field of planet X getting to close.. 
Get ready for some serious doom and gloom people!!!
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reply posted on 12-3-2009 @ 01:25 PM by foremanator
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you know
you gota love the time this was posted
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