Originally posted by flybynight
Edit for: It's interesting that you call for people to document whatever they bring up and then end your post by bringing up how you felt certain
parts were corny w/o documenting which parts you specifically thought were corny.
Anyway I'm hoping for some good research to come out of this thread too but the way you phrased that and the tone you used really rubbed me the wrong
[edit on 12-3-2009 by flybynight]
SonicInifinity congratulations on successfully derailing the thread with your pompous and arrogant declaration of what it is that you expect.
Why don't you let the thread run its own course. Nobody has any obligation to take the time and painstakingly document every little thing,
Derail the thread? Hardly, I think what she did was establish a standard of behavior that should be expected but isn't usually the case for a topic
with this kind of volatility and divisivness and all you did was prove her point!
Arrogant? what are you, a mind reader? All she is suggesting is for a modicum of civility be observed and a measure of respect be given for all
opinions and that they be substantiated with refutations rather than empty contradictions.
This is not arrogant but wise and is commonly seen in most formal debates and also on member edited websites like wiki where you are given a protocol
for what kind of editing they expect and what kind is not acceptable.
Nobody has any obligation to take the time and painstakingly document every little thing, obviously!
She gave the "if" for those who would otherwise make posts that are empty ad-hom attempts with nothing to support or substantiate them. It is quite
simple to grasp, if you are under no obligation to document your claims, is the very reason standard be set at the start, not to offend people with
such tender sensitivities like yourself and not out of her own arrogance but as a courtesy to others that when things go awry, they have no excuse but
for their own intent to degrade the thread which makes them more conspicuous and less likely they will want to be held to that sort of criticism.
It's a lot easier to keep up than catch up, so if you set the bar high to begin with you usually find it is easier to get people who come in civil to
calm down than it is barbarians to live up to a civilized reputation.
Edit for: It's interesting that you call for people to document whatever they bring up and then end your post by bringing up how you felt
certain parts were corny w/o documenting which parts you specifically thought were corny.
How is it interesting? Unless you are one so desperate to split hairs on the matter, it wasn't she that said every little thing had to be documented,
THAT was YOU saying she said that in an attempt to portray her as a hypocrite. Knowing that she didn't you are criticizing a standard of conduct she
never set much less spoke of.
Are you usually this desperate to argue strawmen or are you disappointed you have to actually earn your respect in a thread by not just having the
willingness to argue but the ability to argue.
Her post wasn't necessary but it was wise and appreciated regardless of your reprisals and warrantless accusations, your own brand of pompous
arrogance and terminally self righteous indignation.
[edit on 12-3-2009 by Aermacchi]