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Exactly what religion says to kill people that are not of the same religion

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posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 10:24 PM
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What is the deal this is so asinine .I thought the one basic rule is you don't kill anyone because some dead guy says to. I mean of all the religions out there how many want you to go out and kill people, please help me understand this?




posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 10:28 PM
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The Old Testament called for the killing of unbelievers in Israel and elsewhere.
I think the koran calls for the death of them too.
Maybe hinduism?
Jesus changed things and we are taught to turn the other cheek, love our enemies, etc....



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 10:29 PM
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I stopped believing in religion when I got old enough.

Hypocrites.



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Soloman Kane
What is the deal this is so asinine .I thought the one basic rule is you don't kill anyone because some dead guy says to. I mean of all the religions out there how many want you to go out and kill people, please help me understand this?


You know, I have been wondering the same thing basically. I have never understood killing in the name of God, or killing for not believing in Him the same way someone else does. I wish I could understand this myself.



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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definitely not Hinduism. They don't believe in killing anything. The devout ones are vegetarians.



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 10:41 PM
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But, they do, sometimes. Enmasse!
In India; NYT
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posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 10:53 PM
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Here is a small dose of Judaism and its teachings.

The Code of the Jew" From the Talmud




'We beg Thee, 0 Lord, inflict Thy wrath on the nations not believing in Thee. Take away, 0 Lord, all hope from them. Destroy all foes of Thy nation.' -Synagaga Judaica, p. 212. Minhagen, p. 23. Crach Chain, 480 Magah.

"Every goy who studies the Talmud and every Jew who helps him in it, ought to die.', --Sanhedryn, 59a, aboda Zora 8-6, Szagiga 13.

"To communicate anything to a goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the goyim knew what we teach about them they would kill us openly." -- Libbre David 37.

"If a Jew be called upon to explain any part of the rabbinic books, he ought to give only a false explanation. Who ever will violate this order shall be put to death." -- Libbre David 37.

"A Jew should and must make a false oath when the goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."--Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Via 17.

"The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts.,, -- Saba Mecia 114, 6.

"Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night." -Midrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L.

"A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated." -- .9boda Sarah 37a.

"A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl." -- &ad. Shas. 2:2.

"A Jew may do to a non-Jewess what he can do. He may treat her as he treats a piece of meat." --Hadarine, 20, B; Schulchan 9ruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348.

" IF a goy kills a goy or a Jew he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy he is NOT responsible." --Tosefta. 9boda Za,-a 8, 5.

"It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."--Schuichan Qruch, Choszen Hajpiszpat jog

"Thou shalt not do injury to thy neighbor (Bible), but it is not said, 'Thou shalt not do injury to a Goy.' " -- Mishna Sanhedryn 57.

"A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself; but he must take care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer." -- Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia.


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posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 10:56 PM
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Christianity says to:
deuteronomy
13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which [is] as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
13:7 [Namely], of the gods of the people which [are] round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the [one] end of the earth even unto the [other] end of the earth;
13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

exodus
22:20 "Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed."

leviticus
24:16 "He that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him."

20:27 "A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them."

no wonder some people think religion is the cause of war.



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 10:58 PM
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That is Judaism. The Old Testament, as I said.



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 11:05 PM
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As was said the old testament is Judaism, not Christianity.After Jesus Christianity was born the old laws and teachings of Judaism were done with. The wars that were fought in Gods name after Jesus were not wars for God.
They were the wars of people that realizes they could convince a mass of people to do what ever they wanted to do. Due to the fact that not everybody was literate in those times and had to be told what the word was.

Debunkers time to crawl out of the Old Testament to try to prove your point.

[edit on 11-3-2009 by Ant4AU]



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 11:13 PM
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You're right, Jesus teaches us to love thy neighbor.

But God does not take lightly to non-believers in the New Testament:

Any city that doesn’t receive the followers of Jesus will be destroyed in a manner even more savage than that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Mark 6:11

Jude reminds us that God destroys those who don’t believe in him. Jude 5




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posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 11:15 PM
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I don't know of any. People of a certain Religion, that want war, give their faith that illusion. It is childish to hate a group for the deeds of some imo. Humans just got to act "human!" I think it will be thousands of years before we get pass that. I am sure all religions have killed in the name of their god, one or more times.



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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Well, as you can see right here, extremists among all of them do.

And they can all find something in holy writ to justify it too...

Zealots are remarkably similar across any sectarian lines.

However the majority of any religion pretty much just want to live their lives in peace.



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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Jesus didn't say a damn thing. He couldn't; he didn't exist! You try your best to find historical evidence to prove he existed and you're gonna come up short. Look in the new testament, which was written much, much later than when he was alleged to exist, and you'll read that his disciples carried swords! Peace, my butt.



Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by Soloman Kane
 


The Old Testament called for the killing of unbelievers in Israel and elsewhere.
I think the koran calls for the death of them too.
Maybe hinduism?
Jesus changed things and we are taught to turn the other cheek, love our enemies, etc....


[edit on 11-3-2009 by Learhoag]



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 11:31 PM
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2 Cor 10:2-6
But I(Paul) beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.
For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds; )
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

Gal 1:9
As we said before, so say I(Paul) now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Matt 12:30
He that is not with me(Jesus) is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Luke 19:27
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.




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posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 11:35 PM
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Jesus never canceled the earlier command to kill witches and told his followers that they were to obey his law until heaven and earth passed away. Look in Matt 5:18-20



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 11:40 PM
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This is about proving your faith, that you'd be willing to die for your beliefs

Christianity teaches that "lepers," nonbelievers and false prophets are controlled by Satan, and must be "cleansed" (if not through exorcism, then by taking out your frustrations on them)



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 11:40 PM
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Most of the major religions' scriptures have ambiguities in them. They have passages which can reasonably be construed to advocate peace, acceptance, and tolerance. They also have passages wich can be construed to advocate excluding non-believers from mainstream society or even killing non-believers.

At the end of the day, there are no "enlightened" or "backwards" religions, just enlightened and backwards people. Enlightened and peaceful people will look at the scriptures and follow the peaceful parts. Backwards and violent people will follow the violent and intolerant parts.



posted on Mar, 11 2009 @ 11:48 PM
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If sin is transgression of the law, as 1 John 3:4 says, then you should be following all of the Old Law.

I also think that nearly any religion can be twisted to meet an agenda. I think there are good people and not so good people in most religions.



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 12:22 AM
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As I have always said (ad nauseum, some would say), Jesus is about Love, Forgiveness and Peace.

As I have also said many times, He gets the blame for a lot of things under the name of 'Christianity'.

'Christianity' derives from His name and should not be attributed to religious extremists, Bible bangers and other nutters.

I also think that so-called Christian churches are at fault, being man-made and therefore untrustworthy.

If we all tried to follow the teachings of Jesus, whether you believe that he was a prophet and/or the Son of God, the world would not have all this suffering.

And, if Jesus didn't exist as some claim, who was responsible for this amazing belief system?



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