Secret State Police Report: Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin, Libertarians are Terrorists

reply to post by visible_villain


Are you saying the the MIAC report is a lie?

Alright, I called the # and got some woman who told me she had no comment, but that I could call this number 573-526-6115. So after hanging up with her I gave the # a call.
Some fellow answered. I asked him if he knew about the MIAC report that has surfaced on the internet that was leaked by a Missouri policeman. He stated yes that they were aware of the document and had no comment at this time, and hung up on me.
I then called Congressman Blunt and Senator Bond here in Missouri. Both were out of the office, but I was told by both offices they had been made aware of these documents and that Blunt and Bond had no comment at this time.
The fact that MIAC when called said that they were aware of the documents, but had no comment sealed the deal for me. If it wasn't true why didn't they say so when asked. It would have been easy to do, yet all they could say is NO COMMENT!
The real scary thing for me is that this is coming out of my state.

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reply to post by Kanati


Yes its real.............Like Jones or dis like.............this info is for real

Banned video Contains sheep and wolves

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I used to respect Alex, but now he's just a windbag. He's now what Mancow was in the late 1990's --always getting "inside" reports from "anonymous" sources. None of the Martial Law, End of the world scenarios came true when Mancow "predicted" them and nothing will come of what AJ is saying either. It makes for interesting reading because now-a-days people need to be shocked to be entertained, and that's all that the Mancow and Alex Jones' of the world are--shock jocks, no validity because the majority of what they receive come from sources they cannot prove, or no one can.

The level of fear-based material that Alex Jones dishes out far exceeds the level of material that real terrorist organizations dish out, and the very scary thing is, one of them has a daily radio show that is accepted and is listened to each day. For what? Entertainment? I know it's not to educate the public because as we're jumping from one apparently-sinking lilly pad to the next next, there's something new to be afraid of the next day. Time to jump to a new lilly pad!.

Alex Jones' job is to keep it in everyone's mind that terrorists exist and to keep everyone afraid so laws can be passed.

This is a joke!

Anyone who wants freedom and liberty should be labeled terrorists!!

RIGHT?

I guess that makes me one too!

Seems like an excuse to assassinate or imprison those who can undermine the NWO's global agenda.......

Or those who see through the layered veil of BS.....

Before you know it we'll all be some kind of threat and the only ones who won't be a threat will be the sheep....

1984?

reply to post by OneNationUnder


I guess you did not read a couple of the post. The MIAC report is real........I should now because I live in MO and I called as did others........I am not a huge fan of AJ but this report is true........So I guess you can make what you want from why these reports were given out to the State Police.

reply to post by Cloudsinthesky

Are you saying the the MIAC report is a lie?

No, not at all !

In my mind, the following part of the Goebbel's quote -

It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Pretty much says it all.

Now that the propoganda is no longer working, the 'iron fist' of the State will soon make it's long awaited appearance, to, crush all dissent.

This seems to have put Missouri in a bad light! As it should. I like the part where no one knows anything about the report but oh yes it is real.

They have to answer the truth on this because it will be brought out and people are already going after the Document at this time. I was told that in a SE Missouri town that the Document was found posted on a pole . I cannot confirm this but I could see where someone would do this to get it out and not have to answer who did it! I asked for a picture to be take so it could be posted here. I hope it can be done.

I hope everyone understands how really scary this is! The very people who are government are targeting people in government that they are afraid of!
This is also coming from a state that a few weeks ago stated that they are one of the states that are thinking of leaving the Union.

I myself can see where this is getting big , and could get real big fast. Just read your history and see how fast it took for the Civil War to break out in this country after a few things happened just of this type.

And the same goes for the Revolutionary War. Americans are a funny people as my great grand mother used to say! They will let there people be pushed around and take it just to keep peace and things working. But one day they will wake up angry and when they do God help who they are angry at ,as no one will be able to stop them from making things right!
When she said this I was a young boy and did not fully understand what she was saying. But now I do.

The whole intent here is to make us libertarians skulk away in fear of being labeled a terrorist, so those who benefit from our absence can invoke the fascist style system they've been after all along.

Well, it's not going to work.


If we are to be labeled as terrorists for loving freedom, then I will wear that label as a badge of honor.

For I would very much desire remaining free and be mis-labeled as a terrorist, than to become one of the fascists who label us!

Bring on the badges, we shall wear them with pride, for we will be identified as having resisted fascism once more!

Originally posted by CyberMerk
How is it that on a text document, produced and printed then distributed, there is a common alignment error with text lables on pictures and subtitles. Such as the group picture that has a misaligned picture, misformated and then the text lable for that same picture, overlapping the text on the next page. And this was supposed to be put out from official sources? I like Mr Jones message and what he is trying to do, BUT... he is a little too extreme at times and riskd making himself uncredible at times. I would have to say that because of these errors, either his source is false or the documents were produced by Mr Jones' firm

Easy, ask any graphic designer that uses QuarkXPress; when you have a lot to do; you aren't exactly perfect with alignments. I've been doing this for years, and I try to not to make mistakes, but I've realized after print that alignment was off.

Also, if you think Alex Jones is a disinfo agent you are wrong. He is waking up the masses, Rush Limaugh and Sean Hannidy are the disinfo agents.

Originally posted by vonholland
and when was the "upside down flag" movement thread started on ATS?

I thought everyone knew the upside down flat was a symble of distress, its been that for decades upon decades. I was taught that in elementry school.

This article is real.

I couldn't give two fs what Alex jones said, wrote, video recorded, blogged, or generally vociferously rampaged about, not one iota.

The guy is an absolute tool of the highest order - right or wrong - I dont want to hear from him.

reply to post by ProfEmeritus


I have to say, "professor", that the "CIAInternetFakes" site you linked is one of the most bogus things I've ever seen.

It accuses a massive, massive list of people and sites of being the tools of the CIA in order to splinter and divide the movement.

Which is exactly what the cry of "fake!" is itself doing.

To accuse people like Michael Chussodofsky, Michael Ruppert and many others of being CIA tools is absolutely ridiculous. And if you can look down the list of websites it disses without seeing that as perfectly obvious, you really haven't been keeping up.

The site you've posted is, IMO, a CIA fake itself.

The "Constitutional Party" is not a real party. They merely swap members in and out of the Republican party. Constitutionalists, on the other hand, create a false, deluded image of the Constitution.

Liberatarianism is nothing more than an attempt to sway society away from time-tested values. Liberatarians add nothing to the quality of life of anybody, rather they want to make life more complicated by causing more things of questionnable nature to seem "normal" or acceptable. Of course, they throw in things that appeal to people, like racism or sexism, but then they mix it with other things like atheism, man-hating, drug abuse, gay marriage and pederasty.

The "rightwing" movement that the article mentions is anarchy, which is considered the "extreme right" by people who buy into that crap. Race-based seperatist groups are also considered "extreme right"

While I don't agree with these extremists, I haven't seen any overt call to arms, so I can't see how they would be a concern for national security. This makes it seem like the government wants to start prosecuting thought crimes, which would be unjust. There is a social danger of these kinds of ideas having a domino effect, but they are not illegal, and so they are not a job for law enforcement.

The article attempts to editorialize the cited documentation in a biased way.

It also makes no mention of militant socialists, which is questionnable on the part of Alex Jones.

The people who design, write, and publish this propaganda are the real terrorists!! This is preposterous, absurd, and an insult to everyone's intelligence!

This is just as logical as: If you uphold the law, you are a criminal. If you engage in criminal activity, you are good. What?!?

Need_Truth

anyone can see that these documents site the governments dissatisfaction and in fact absolute disgust with "thought crime". you dont need to have faith in the authenticity of these documents to see that the government has become sickened with the prospect of dissenting opinion and hence is attempting to criminlize free mind and dissenting minority opinion. we see the signs all around us....you just have to be willing to look

you dont have to think alex jones is a paitriot; trying to free the masses from the cluches of veiled tyrany; to see that the government is setting up illusions of freedom and liberty, behind the facade of lies they are imprisoning us.

youre belifes to the authentication or credibility of AJ are mute in the larger picture...open your eyes to the govenments false democracy: of and for the people....if you can learn from history you can see through the lies and discover the truth.

what is so scary is not that we live in an orwellinan world, but that many cant even relize it

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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by Jay-in-AR

 

It is sad that Alex Jones would have moved on to outright hoaxing info.

Well, many believe that Alex Jones is a disinformation agent.

Here is a link of federal government disinformation sites, as listed by breakfornews.com

www.breakfornews.com...

Both infowars and prisonplanet are on the list.

And they didnt list Fox News?!?

Wake up! Do you really think if the government was engaging in any criminal activity that they would not list sites that point out the fact?!?

Does anyone do any research before they character attack the messenger and post BS about that person or do we just post BS off the cuff without bothering to verify the info first. Obviously the later... Before you post, get your facts straight! All of this info has been confirmed by the police department where the document was obtained.

Continue to drink the Kool-Aid... nothing to see here...

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reply to post by rich23

It accuses a massive, massive list of people and sites of being the tools of the CIA in order to splinter and divide the movement.

Actually, if you read the entire site, you'll see this:

Note: We do not contend that everyone associated with these websites are knowing intelligence operatives. Some have been professionally manipulated, others merely misled. In any event these are promoting the psyop agendas and disinformation themes of the covert controllers. This is also not meant to be a fully comprehensive listing of all the fake websites.

Believe what you wish. I posted the site for information only. If this thread hasn't convinced you concerning AJ, I don't know what will.

So, here they come to get us Christians, just as prophesied, btw, I emailed that guy and still haven't an email back, oh well, guess I'm on the list now eh?