Army patrols downton Samson AL after shooting spree, page 2

reply to post by pluckynoonez

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Not to split hairs, but wasn't the usual form of massacre with slaves back in the day hangings and beatings? I'm sure in their minds bullets were too expensive. So yes, it probably would be the worst SHOOTING in Alabama history.

reply to post by kdial1
Eerie. Seems like a curfew is in effect? There's nobody in the streets.

Something big coming up?

Arguably, the Posse Comitatus Act in itself is unconstitutional based upon the premise that it would ban any method of national or state defense being used anywhere. Based upon the fact that every able bodied person under the Constitution of the United States is a member of the militia or the posse comitatus.

Have a read on this:
Regarding the Act

Edit to fix url

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reply to post by bamaoutlaw

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You are making to much sense for that to be true.

Nope, this has government take over all over it. It is the perfect crime, you take 5 MP's and put them in the intersection, in the middle of the night when everybody is home so that the public can get use to seeing them.

That makes more sense

reply to post by bamaoutlaw
But there are no Mexican gangs there, some lunatic just went on a rampage and then splattered his brains all over the pavement, where's the future trouble here?

Originally posted by star in a jar
reply to post by bamaoutlaw
But there are no Mexican gangs there, some lunatic just went on a rampage and then splattered his brains all over the pavement, where's the future trouble here?

Read the post you are replying to. The police are investigating and the soldiers volunteered to give them a hand because they needed some help.

reply to post by jd140
Oh? Well, lets see how long this lasts.

two lines

Originally posted by star in a jar
reply to post by jd140
Oh? Well, lets see how long this lasts.

two lines

Hopefully not to long, 5 MPs can do alot of damage to a little town.

Citizens beware

The picture definitly shows active duty Army, and not National Gaurdsmen.

Someone posted an article from a vancover newspaper website on the Google Finance board, but it appears that the news website has removed the article because when I clicked the hyper link, I got a website cannot be found message in my Internet Explorer.

I then copyed the quoted text and googled it and found this Yahoo News link:

news.yahoo.com...:/090311/ids_photos_ts/r1211985247.jpg/print

Under the picture in the above link, it states:

U.S. Army soldiers from Ft. Ruker guard a home with five bodies inside as investigators search for clues in Samson, Alabama, March 11, 2009. A gunman on the rampage killed at least eleven people in several different locations. Geneva County Sheriff Greg Ward said the eleven people, including the suspected gunman, were killed in the shooting spree and car chase in southern Alabama March 10, 2009.

This base is an Army aviation base: www-rucker.army.mil...

Here is some info on Posse Comitatus

6 U.S.C. § 466 entitled: Sense of Congress reaffirming the continued importance and applicability of the Posse Comitatus Act:

"(a) Findings

Congress finds the following:

(1) Section 1385 of Title 18 (commonly known as the “Posse Comitatus Act”), prohibits the use of the Armed Forces as a posse comitatus to execute the laws except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress.

(2) Enacted in 1878, the Posse Comitatus Act was expressly intended to prevent United States Marshals, on their own initiative, from calling on the Army for assistance in enforcing Federal law.

(3) The Posse Comitatus Act has served the Nation well in limiting the use of the Armed Forces to enforce the law."

Under Federal Criminal Law, this conduct is criminally punishable:

18 U.S.C. § 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus:

"Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

We all (me included) complained about Bush when acted extra-constitutionally, but it seems nothing has "changed."

reply to post by TravelerintheDark

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In the Military we have MP's, Master-at Arms...etc. These are equivalant to Police officers. Yes They wear police sashes. I am sure they are not Infantry soldiers. They have a specialty, which is MP. I agree that it is a small town and they were probably just assisting. I just wonder on who's order.

-Kdial1

reply to post by kdial1

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Thanks for the info. I always believed the would wear sashes that said MP or Military Police to distinguish them from civilian police forces.

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