tobacco tax obesity tax..what is next sex tax?, page 2

reply to post by nixie_nox

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Yes there optional.
But it's my right as a American to choose.
That's why it's a option.

When the government start's taxing everything that's LEGAL but deem bad for you or immoral to the point you have to quit you"Insert habit here"
That's wrong on so many level's.

To increase Tax's to get a desired effect against one's freedom..Freedom to smoke cuss drink and go to strip club's just to name a few .


It's your freedom and right to not smoke.
It's my freedom to smoke.

And if i want a dang Pepsi not a diet Pepsi..it's my right and choice.

You can't Tax and Tax to get a desired outcome.

If you want people to stop smoking...make it illegal.

If you think soda pop regular flavor is bad for me ..BAnn it make it illegal.

But to Tax me to the point only the rich can afford to smoke it is pissing me off.
End of July smokes are going up 12 dollars a carton in my state..another Tax because none fought the last Tax.

Last month or carton's cost us for generic's 20 dollars a carton.
This month 30 dollar's
In july the price will be for generics 38 to 40 dollar's for tobacco they sweep of the floor's.cheap stuff.

It's not Morally or legally right to Place a Tax on stuff that's legal to start with after all these year's.
It hurt's lower class America badly.
Heck there poor already...let's take there smoke's too..poor sob's.
ain't right man

reply to post by TheAmused

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If they tax sex all us guys married over 5 years would get a REBATE a the end of the year!

Originally posted by theindependentjournal
reply to post by TheAmused

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If they tax sex all us guys married over 5 years would get a REBATE a the end of the year!

See our Tax dollars at work
Stimulus Or lack of it lmfao

reply to post by theindependentjournal

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I have about 6 years worth of rebate coming to me!

reply to post by Doom and Gloom

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They charge the s@@T out of for air man.

I went to the hospital with my mother inlaw she had a asthma attack.

She got her bill int he mail weeks later.

She got charged 350 dollar's for the air they put in her nose lol

High priced air man,..it was super medicine air.

Originally posted by TheAmused
reply to post by Doom and Gloom

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They charge the s@@T out of for air man.

I went to the hospital with my mother inlaw she had a asthma attack.

She got her bill int he mail weeks later.

She got charged 350 dollar's for the air they put in her nose lol

High priced air man,..it was super medicine air.

By the logic of some here I can say... Well they should charge more because I don't use it therefore tax the hell out of it. I don't need the oxygen they put into the bottles it doesn't affect me, so I don't care that you have to pay more. Everyday I hate the human race more and more.

reply to post by Doom and Gloom

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I'm finding my dogs are much better companions and more loyal and truthful than humans. We get the government we deserve. I'm with you on the humans comment. At this point I think we need a slate wiper so we can start over.

reply to post by Doom and Gloom

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That a common pattern in many trends. It's okay to tax the hell out of something because I dont use it. It's okay to ban something because I dont use it. It's okay to censor certain words because I dont speak them. It's okay to burn those books because I dont read them.

Most people are perfectly happy to adopt tyranny as a way of life just so long as the tyranny doesnt affect them directly. Some even get a little kick out of imposing pain and torment on others for doing what they themselves do not do. They look at it as a sort of "getting back at." It's their own brand of mixing their version of some "church" with government.

The taxers and tax supporters are all sadists reveling in the pain and misery of others.

Originally posted by TheAmused
reply to post by Doom and Gloom

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She got charged 350 dollar's for the air they put in her nose lol

High priced air man,..it was super medicine air.

I want some of that air too...

reply to post by TheAmused

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I was in NYC a couple times for the 9/11 truth movement. I have also been to DC a couple of times for rallies.

I do exercise my 1st amendment very very well..
Barking up the wrong tree.


[edit on 3/11/2009 by ThichHeaded]

reply to post by ChrisCrikey

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I would love to see a cost comparison in my state as to sex/pregnancies/STDs vs. smoking related illnesses vs. obesity/heart disease/diabetes.

usgovinfo.about.com...

Smoking Deaths Cost U.S. $92 Billion a Year

www.msnbc.msn.com...

New U.S. HIV cases to cost $12 billion a year Study: Patients can expect to spend $618,900 for lifetime treatment

They live longer than cancer patient's..bigger tax burden.
20 years of treatment.

www.cnn.com...

STDs affect not only individuals' health, but also the economy, the CDC said the conditions cost the U.S. health care system as much as $15.3 billion annually.

kevincolby.com...

Teen pregnancies cost taxpayers an estimated $7 billion per year

www.examiner.com...

In a 2006 report issued from the Institute of Medicine, preterm births cost the United States and its taxpayers more than $26 billion dollars a year. That breaks down to approximately $51,600 per infant.

Add's up all sex related add's up to 288billion
Hiv patients live 20+ years with the illness..20 years of treatments.
sO 12 x 20 years = 244 million.

Would be more if you add if the mother need's assistance..the kids get free medical care till 16 i think in most state's.
based on there income.

So tobacco is second only to sex for costing tax payer's.

Remember The argument is smoking and soda pop is a option. or luxury.
Sex is a luxury also. and a option
I can choose not to have sex just as i can choose to. it's my freedom in life .
Many have went abstinent in there lifetime.

Just as drinking a pop or smoking it's my freedom to not smoke or to smoke.





[edit on 11-3-2009 by TheAmused]

[edit on 11-3-2009 by TheAmused]

reply to post by ThichHeaded

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I have called and cussed our congressman out if that helps.lol

reply to post by TheAmused

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Thank you, TheAmused. That's great information but what about obestiy>>/heart disease/diabetes/disability/mobilityproblems/blindness/amputation costs? It costs a ton of money to open up a chest and deal with blocked arteries. I'm not picking on overweight people, I just think these comparative health care costs should be known before they start singling out one group over the others to lay a heavily regressive tax on them (the largest percentage of smokers are lower income...you think they're just a wee bit stressed out?)...I'm an ex smoker, btw. Most smokers don't get cancer, just COPD and the treatment is an oxygen tank and possibly some steroidal inhalers. That's relatively cheap. I'm glad I got out before I damaged my lungs too badly.

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