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posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by northerngate
Don’t come back with the moderate Muslims speech because it is well known that by Sharia law and faith come first, not race, right or wrong or justice.


And what the hell makes you such an authority on Muslims?

That bigoted statement has really boiled my p***, I hope you have some damn good evidence to back it up. I doubt you will however, and you will continue to preach just as much vile hate to your fellow ignorant BNP buddies - they are just as bad as the extreme clerics.

If you have nothing I suggest an edit and apology is in order, sharpish.




posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 09:07 AM
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Yes, we have freedom of speech. Except that you are in danger of losing your job if you decide to protest.

Thanks for showing up the hypocrisy, northerngate!



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 11:00 AM
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Here is a link to another ATS topic discussing the same situation with several very interesting videos that people should watch.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Islam in Britain isn't simply protesting to protect their rights, they are calling for war against all non-Muslims. The goal of these radical Muslims is to either convert, kill, or enslave all non-Muslims, and this is something the people of the world need to wake up to.



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 12:13 PM
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I don't agree with tarring all Muslims with the same brush but it sounds like some of you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you genuinely believe that there is no problem in the UK and Muslims haven’t been receiving different treatment.

Even members of the government are saying it now. The recent policy exchange report, which was co-authored by a former radical and forwarded by Ruth Kelly, sets this out clearly.


www.policyexchange.org.uk...

Here’s an article with a quick summary of the above,

www.telegraph.co.uk...



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Goathief

Originally posted by northerngate
Don’t come back with the moderate Muslims speech because it is well known that by Sharia law and faith come first, not race, right or wrong or justice.


That bigoted statement has really boiled my p***, I hope you have some damn good evidence to back it up. I doubt you will however, and you will continue to preach just as much vile hate to your fellow ignorant BNP buddies - they are just as bad as the extreme clerics.


What part in particular do you have a problem with;

Sharia law and faith come first: Show me a Muslim that believes this to be untrue.

Not race: The Muslim faith is multi racial;

Right or wrong or justice: Dhim-mi; An Islamic term that refers to a subjugated non-Muslim person living in a Muslim society. Second-class status is confirmed by the legal system and dhimmis do not share the rights of their Muslim rulers.

Do you really want me to add to this list?

As to the BNP references, I would like an apology for this. I live and work in a multi cultural city, have in laws that are none Aryan and my own family tree cannot be described anything other than mongrel.

That said given the cowardice of the British government in respect to saying no to Sharia law etc. I’m thinking of voting BNP in the next election in protest to this. While this may seem extreme I can only say I’m following the example of Barack Obama’s in distancing himself from the UK government.



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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Total nonsense in this thread!

I find it hilarious how the brainwashed sheeple blame Muslims as the NWO and totally ignore the real corrupted organisations and indivduals ruining the word today. I've never heard so much nonsense in my life. The west are killing and destroying Muslims in the millions and installing a NWO for all people of the world and people here are so brainwashed as to blame the Muslim people.

I can see no reason for this other than disinfo agents attempting to create a false enemy (big surprise there) and stop people from knowing who the real criminals are.

This thread seems to be BY THE SHEEPLE AND FOR THE SHEEPLE.

I had to step in though...


[edit on 12-3-2009 by Djinnibaba]



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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Personally, I think the people pushing radical Islam are working with the people supporting the IC's, and pushing for the NWO. By allowing all of these Islamic radicals to openly spread hate against Europeans in their own countries, they are driving people towards more conservative, nationalistic political parties. It seems to be an effective way of changing the entrenched liberal establishment in Europe.

The point that needs to be made is that these people pushing for radical Islam, and Sharia law are every bit as bad as the people pushing for the NWO, who encourage what is being called Western Imperialism. This is the perspective that I think needs to be illustrated more.

For anyone paying attention, it is easy to see that those pushing radical Islam and Sharia law are killing more Muslims than the Western powers. People of Islam need to start recognizing that those who push radical Islam are their enemies every bit as much as those pushing Western Imperialism.



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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Hi

Muslims, christians, Jews, Sikhs, Hindu's and all other wordly religions.

The translation process for all and i mean All holy books is not 100% they have been edited and changed to control the masses.... And the proof is in Italy...

The vatican has Hundreds and Hundreds of teachings and stories stored away many of which belong to the Qu'ran and the bible....

If people want to believe in the imaginary let them. It is fantasy as the truth is hidden.

Things are changing.

If people can not live together in peace without trying to force there lifestyle upon others it's time for you to leave.

Sharia Law will never happen in the UK.

Great Britain Is a Christian country (sorry if that offends anyone but tough)

And it always will be (well until they prove there is life all over the universe and then we learn more)

Its a real shame that even in todays modern world that Neanderful people who don't know all the facts throw themselves into a belief 100%. "And guess what although it is your belief, It isn't really its what you've been told"



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by ian990003100

Sharia Law will never happen in the UK.


Really

news to me



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 06:27 PM
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Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

Not really Law.

Both sides have to agree to sharia law!

So although it seems as though we have let them have sharia law it's actually non commital.

For instance a Muslim wouldn't be able to take a person who does not agree with sharia law to court in this way.

It was an exercise to appease the nut jobs.

Taking this further our courts are powerless anyway as the european courts can over rule all!

In my opinion If they want sharia law and want a muslim country I believe flights are cheap to pakistan at the moment

Im sure we could all club together and let them have free flights there



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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So when a Muslim woman is physically beaten into submission do you think that she will disagree with the dispute being held under Sharia law?

[edit on 12/3/2009 by northerngate]



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 06:47 PM
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I too like the originator of this thread can see the way followers of Islam in the UK are being given preferential treatment by our government. It beggars belief that an outdated, barbaric, medieval religion should be allowed to flourish in any modern society. Let us not forget that there is no tolerance in the muslim faith, there is only the appearance of tolerance when muslims are in the minority. Make no mistake about it Islam is a threat to the western world, the ultimate goal is that we must all surrender to the will of Allah and why is it that muslims always respond to criticism with abuse or violence? Perhaps thats why the government is afraid to act in an impartial manner, scary irrational people! I think more of us here in the UK would speak out against this menace in our midst but we are immediately branded racist or bigoted not only by the muslims but also by our own policemen! We in the rational world can only hope that there is no hidden agenda by our government regarding muslims with regard to civil unrest or indeed a new world religion. I have just finished reading a book by Sam Harris called "The end of faith" in it he documents the real danger of Islam to our way of life. It is a good read for anyone who really wants to understand Islam! I would also like to say before finishing off here that I regard myself as kind, caring, tolerant and reasonable and I have no problem with religious beliefs but there are plenty of reasons to deny the the intolerance and tyranny that go with some of them.



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 06:52 PM
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Dodge, the reaction you write of is a matter of Politically Correct Programming.
Those who call you a racist or hater are the ones who have the deepest level of programming. They are the individuals who do not have much self confidence. They feel that they elevate themselves by calling you a racist etc.

Yes, they are a threat to the Western World. And that is as it was planned.
All Gentiles are the arch enemy of the clever planners that have put this situation upon you.

I have to wonder where the Queen plans to go when the whole place is over run by Islam. Will she convert? I doubt they will be giving her much reverence.

[edit on 12-3-2009 by OhZone]



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 07:06 PM
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wftc2.e-travel.com...

Either Live in our country as free men or leave... hardline british politics are needed.

I love the diversity of the uk but extremism and beliefs are ruining our once great nation

sharia law has no place in modern society or western society.sorry no offence intended.

Tolerence levels are dropping and its not going to be pretty. Our government has done nothing at all to calm are situation thnat is brewing.

No man iis forced to reside in the uk....



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 07:15 PM
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I agree that sharia law is unwelcome on the streets of the UK.

2nd line



posted on Mar, 12 2009 @ 08:38 PM
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I'm amazed at so many people willing to speak their minds openly.

Of course the vast majority of followers of the Muslim faith are ordinary hardworking people just trying to lead normal lives and raise their families in peace.

But the Middle East countries, despite the benefits of containing a huge percentage of oil and gas resources, still operate on a medieval level of education, industry, knowledge, and tolerance. Much is due to the handful of families who control the region and are resistant to modernization and cultural change. Iranian Shiite clerics and Saudi-based Sunni clergy have felt it their duty to encourage anti-Western values and promote the notion oh Jihad, the conquest of the West.

Europe is considered the most vulnerable region of the world for the intended social, cultural, and population takeover. Countries with precarious economies, needing immigrants to sustain the growing benefit systems for their aging populations, welcome Muslims. The lack of military strength dissipated since WWII makes Britain and the rest of Europe fear the need for possible military engagement in conflicts elsewhere. They essentially buy the promise of peace in exchange for muteness on what is happening to them internally. The unwritten terms of the deal is that countries that comply with the agendas of Middle Eastern rulers and clergy will be exempt from future retaliations in what they consider the ultimate confrontation of East and West.

Europe and Britain are weak for not setting the same terms for Muslim immigration that they have for others. They are welcome to come, but there is a culture, religion, philosophy that is in place and should be respected.

So the British, like the Norwegians, Danes, Swedes, French, et al, have let the agenda of Muslim extremism backed by Middle Eastern rulers, essentially cow them into submission.

Most Brits see it and know what's happening. Few are willing to talk about it.
That is the response hoped for and being received. The fear of political incorrectness immobilizes liberal Europeans. They are terrified of being accused of being racist.

This is being exploited to the hilt.

Best of luck to you.


Mike F



posted on Mar, 13 2009 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by Djinnibaba
Total nonsense in this thread!

I find it hilarious how the brainwashed sheeple blame Muslims as the NWO and totally ignore the real corrupted organisations and indivduals ruining the word today. I've never heard so much nonsense in my life. The west are killing and destroying Muslims in the millions and installing a NWO for all people of the world and people here are so brainwashed as to blame the Muslim people.

I can see no reason for this other than disinfo agents attempting to create a false enemy (big surprise there) and stop people from knowing who the real criminals are.

This thread seems to be BY THE SHEEPLE AND FOR THE SHEEPLE.

I had to step in though...


[edit on 12-3-2009 by Djinnibaba]


Sorry O' mighty one, but what gives you the right to call people sheeple? do you think you are above people?

So O'mighty one are you telling us that the Muslims are being used by the govenment so that people hate them more? That's quite interesting



posted on Mar, 13 2009 @ 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by OhZone


I have to wonder where the Queen plans to go when the whole place is over run by Islam. Will she convert? I doubt they will be giving her much reverence.

[edit on 12-3-2009 by OhZone]


Yes OhZone thanks for your input. I'm very interested to see where the Queen and her Parliment will go with this. As far as I'm aware she is "supposidly" Christian.

Thanks



posted on Mar, 13 2009 @ 04:28 AM
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Originally posted by Mike_A
I don't agree with tarring all Muslims with the same brush but it sounds like some of you are living in cloud cuckoo land if you genuinely believe that there is no problem in the UK and Muslims haven’t been receiving different treatment.

Even members of the government are saying it now. The recent policy exchange report, which was co-authored by a former radical and forwarded by Ruth Kelly, sets this out clearly.




Mike_A I wouldn't be surprised if the people that can't see it on this thread are Muslim themselves, which is fine. I would just like people to come to this thread with an open mind. This can obviously be difficult if you are influneced by one Religion or the other as you are bound to be biased.

Thanks



posted on Mar, 13 2009 @ 05:22 AM
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Originally posted by DodgeG1

Yes OhZone thanks for your input. I'm very interested to see where the Queen and her Parliment will go with this. As far as I'm aware she is "supposidly" Christian.



Only publicly, her German ancestry is pagan; which explains the collapse of the Christianity in the UK and Charles’s open newage guise.

As for parliament why do you think it’s opened with a black rod?



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