No big news flash here. The Episcopal Church has been pretty much saying that since Charles II. More specifically, (According to Robert Meyer’s Book, the First Urban Christians) It was the Druids and the Isisian (Isis followers) who were making the jump to the Christian messages. Meyer also points out that it was Isis Scholars who first gave Christianity as a religion, real creditability by writing a very detailed criticism of it. More so, inside the Roman Empire during the first 3 centuries, Christians were pretty much Jews for Jesus in the sense that practicing it openly is forbidden in most cities of the Empire. One the first big internal debates among the original apostles was on the question of letting Gentiles into the Church. Constantine pretty much settled that dispute and did the matter of Christmas, Lent, Easter and some other pagan holidays. Additionally, Christian churches North and East of the Empire, as in Britain, Scotland and Ireland were growing at an alarming rate. These were the same people battling the Roman Legions on the frontiers, which Rome was loosing more and more territory. By Proclaiming Christianity and building a church in Rome and Claiming Peter to be the founder, made it easy for Constantine to re-assimilate those lost territories back into the empire.

Constantino was a shampion for cristianity because his mother was a cristian and she decided to take matters on hers hands to make cristianity the main religions at the time she had a lot of influence on him he did anything his mother wanted, he was after all a mamas boy but actually he did not converted to cristianity until his death bed he was a sun worshiper or the god sun of the ancient egiptians. If cristians has to thank anybody for cristianity it will be constantinos mother she is the one that went to jerusalem and fallowed the path of jesus and make sure to find the markers as well or to mark anything to make it real, remember after the time of jesus jerusalem was burn and rebuild and it amazes me that she was able to find all the land mark of jesus time and it was during constantinos reign that the bible was compailed.

[Edited on 21-4-2004 by marg6043]

Constantine probably did do it for power. He incorporated much of the pagan influences into the Church such as statues and saints. In this way he could blend the pagans to follow this new religion but keep similar beliefs. It was a smart idea and lead to the Church being what it is now.

I think constantine just realized that he needed to "adapt or die" With the christian faith growing every day, Constantine thought that they would soon become the majority of the roman population. Maybe he thought that they would plan a coup or start a revolution, whatever his motives, he realized that he needed to put a leash on this movement before it got out of control. Honestly, does anyone really think he just woke up one day and said to himself, "Gee my religion just isn't working out, maybe I should switch to Christianity"? Didn't think so. His motives were political.

How sad. And to think the church which soul teaching is (perfect state of grace on earth) could be utterlyfoolish and nonsense. Its impossible that God could of set up a church
withorganized ministers to giveout commuion, teach, andbaptise, while a pope wld be the one who governs the body while this body moved by the holy spirit interprets scripture so 1000s of interprettions would
not destorythe whole earth.


The sacrafice has been put off until the 1500s when protest-ant-ism was formed and after the freemided era, 1000s of different beliefs that were all christian formed, som chuches are cults, some receieve a sacrafice, some believe in faith alone, yet some 3000 all call themselves christians while all believing in somethng different. How can this be when jesus told the apostles to teach them all to observe all that I commanded you.





So what church is true? what church has carried on the eucharistic sacrafice prophecied to spread to every corner of earth? what faith of jesus has spread from his time until now with the sacrafice of perfection? Every saint of the catholic religion. eigion as in they believe in the teaching of being in the state of perection on earth which is the sole basis of our church, confession, communion, to remain in grace on earth. Every saint of the church
who worked mracles, formed organizations for the sick, are all on the road to damnation because they followsome man made religion, and have been judged God knows how many times by peple who don't have a clue what the teachings are and mean. miracles have been happening in this church for 2000 years of healings, visions, eucharistic miracles, ect.. and I have seen miracles myself to believe and conver to the faith and sacrafice, and we are all liars and false and sincerity doesnt exist when
the catholicchurch is mentioned. And im no saying this becuase im some sort of poster boy for the church. I believe in it for other reasons and never grw up in it, and truly beieve in it, not only from the miracles of the church, but from common sense while readng scripture and Jesus teaching on the kingdom.



But since im a part of something Consantine helped(build) up, (not) creat. the church is a teaching, not an organization. this is why we have had some (20) soe antipopes in curch history who claimed to be popes but wereshunned by the chrch for teaching falsehood as pope. And not a single one of you know Constantine, his life, his jorney, ect. You can read from books all day on him, but (none) of you knew his thoughts an all of his deeds, yu hae no clue who guided him.





Butthis will continue forever, and people will sit back in judgement until the earth explodes from Gods wrath.isnt that satans plan. Get people to pass down sentence, mere people, until the final day when they were distracted by nothing but judgement? Im not saingall of you, just some who have sealed my fate because I belong to something caled catholic, and have judged the entire catholic world in ther own sentencing.




God bless.

I see alot of


" could have been "


" He probably did it for this "



what is this? Your assuming, though you (might) have a stronger stance away from the internet, your assuming because you know judgement is not right.




Suppose I say.


Since protestants are protestant and created their own churches, they are (probably) not true and not christian.



I would sound like a total judgemental human being.





Or suppose you were constantine, and you knew you saw a vison, and followed this vision, and saw people 1700 years later judging you as if they were the christ who can judge.





None of us including me know Gods mind, I believe what hes shown me, but I don't know his judgements or mind, I just don't




peace.

I was raised in Catholic Parochial schools all my life. This fact doesn’t make me a theologian or biblical scholar.

I started having issues with MY Catholic faith when I to call my priest at my schools church “Father”, my father is not this man it’s God. When I had to go to “confession” and confess my sins to the priest and accept the punishment that he felt was just. I felt like I should be telling God of my sins and ask for his forgiveness. I don’t like the idea of a “middle man” between myself and God. I also don’t believe that the Pope is any closer to God than myself nor do I think God considers the Popes words more important than mine.

Constantine grew up learning about Christianity so when he was emperor he said that Christians will no longer be prosecuted and then made Chritianity a main religiong of the Roman Empire.

The comments to follow are assuming the text of the bible is the true word of God.

Controlling the followers of a particular religion to advance your human agenda you would need a hierarchy. If you wanted to pervert a particular faith you would need to control the man at the top of the pyramid, thereby controlling the entire faith. If you had no controlling body then you have millions of followers simply following their biblical text and uninfluenced by some group of people attempting to promote their subversive agenda. God said he lives in all of us, not just a select few elected by man in the Catholic faith.


[Edited on 30-4-2004 by kinglizard]