Originally posted by nenothtu

T. Jefferson is quoted as saying that a "democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what's for supper". That's why the US was set up the way it was, to guard against that sort of thing happening.

nenothtu out

I have that quote hanging on my wall. The actual full quote is:
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the outcome of the vote."
Also, it has been attributed to Ben Franklin saying it, but there seems to be some debate on the actual origin of that phrase.

Originally posted by semperfortis
This was said once before, but let me reiterate prior to warnings being given out.

This is NOT the Joke Forum..

Any posts that are Chuck Norris Jokes, or include them, will be removed and the user possibly warned from now on.

Please discuss the topic.

Semper

I don't know much about Chuck Norris specifically, but if he is like most other media figures he probably is the joke -- isn't his credibility an issue, especially if all we have to go on is his say-so and/or his background is suspect.

If all we have to go on is the say-so of Chuck Norris, should we take it seriously? Is he an object of legitimate ridicule not to be taken seriously?

Apparently many posters are suggesting the later without actually saying it or actually defending their positions with fact.

Not unlike what Benjamin Fulford has said. Apparently a lot of martial artists and ex military and military are aware and preparing for conflict. Dr. Deagal recently commented that 2 nukes where disarmed in major US cities by US government forces working counter to the NWO. Clearly the only reason there is any "free" speech, press (internet), etc.. at this point is a resistance network. That, however, doesn't appear to exists with the TV Media. Watching TV this last week I couldn't even count the number of pure propaganda brainwashing sound bites. I'm just waiting for the day when the Vatican, Israel, the Bilbergers, CFR and owl loves light up the night sky.

Originally posted by PsykoOps
If it were anyone else saying this I wouldn't believe it. Chuck on the other hand speaks words and reality will bend to accomodate him

Dude you deserve every star for that one, that really made me laugh fom all my bellies

cheers for the sunshine

Sorry mods did not see the warning, apologies

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Where the hell did you find that titbit?? I would love to know what info you have on him, because I only ever heard of him through ATS in the first place.

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We here in the US are in deep trouble and my fellow sleeping American are going to be shocked when the Mexicans of 350,000 strong, backed by Chinese and Russian Military positioned in Mexico, with over 1,000,000 ++ UN troops in the US following the next 911; and invade. the CIA is according to sources setting up a crime wave using Latino crime gangs in over 3,500 cities, MS-13 as they are being organized in Canada..so that we as Americans with no clue of what is going on will WANT martial law. the dissidents will be taken to one of the 3,000+ concentration camps inside the US and who knows then. This is only a sample of what is set up

Originally posted by tgambill
I have always suspected but couldn't really pin anything down until several weeks ago. He made the statement that the Saudi's own Hollwood the Arabs controlled Hollywood and we know that is completely false.

Fifth column strategy attacks their enemy from within the same group. I noticed one day that I couldn't really use Alex Jones material due to his rhetoric, forcing arrests on himself due to his behavior and antics, not bringing certain whistleblowers on his interviews, and just acting like a "donkey" if you know what I mean. He discredits the truth tellers by his antics, soap box, megaphone rantings and accomplishing nothing. My thoughts have been confirmed through many others that have noticed the same thing. Michael Moore and Ron Paul are two more. The trick is to say the right things and do just enough to make it seem that they are on our side but really accomplishing nothing. The true whistleblowers are mostly just assassinated.....every single one. He got into the Bohemian grove rituals once..and that doesn't happen.....unless allowed....He is a fifth column agent for the Illuminati......as is also David Ickes......their take is 80-95% truth only to deviate just ever so much to deceive. However, here is the real catch all. This is becoming evident now...those that fall for their antics, sign up for the site, vote for Ron Paul, attend Naomi's wolf's seminars or sign up for her broadcasts....are now linked to the Christian right or militia types, or counter views to the New World Order.

In case you weren't aware, the Saudis have bought controlling shares in most American media conglomerates in the last decade. Hollywood Studios are owned by multinationals like Gulf & Western, Sony, etc. Not speculation, the data is publicly accessible. Why else do you think the news avoids implicating them in anything? Even the conspiracy world gives them a pass. They have been waiting patiently for the events that are in play. It's not a coincidence Saudis flew the planes on 9/11.

Jones is a charlatan. At best a clown that big business likes to have out there screaming at the top of his lungs. As a high profile spokesman he discredits a whole movement with his antics. Half of what he says is true. Problem is you never know which half.

Motivated by ego and greed, I expect he has sold out or is looking for a buyer.


Mike

The Saudi's may have invested money, but they are not owning Hollywood nor are they an integral Illuminati family. The Rockefellers own Hollywood, inclusive of Disney with his interconnection and occult themes. Jones is still dead wrong..............and an agent for the Illuminati.

911 was planned by the Illuminati and certainly involved the CIA in the planning stages since the CIA controls Al Qaeda. Mossad controls Hamas. The Illuminati plays both sides of every war since our country began and in the World as well. They have funded both sides of our civil war of that generation, both sides of the Japanese and russian war, Wall street funded lenin, Bolsheviks, and Hitler and the history goes on and on to land each phase to the final curtain the New World Order. all of this about the finanical support of the ones I mentioned is confirmed by scholarly work and research and virtually irrefutable.

Currently, Our government is going to pull off its fourth attempt at a military coup designed to succeed this time. FDR, a great traitor in our history not mentioned in the true history failed in his role, and his communistic New Deal which by the way laid the groundwork for Obama's stimulus plan which is a model for a communistic role.......The fake war on terror, the fake war on drugs in Mexico are being used to justify actions needed to start the final phase for the New World Order and a dictatorship inside the U.S. They will use 350,000 Mexican troops that are at present deploying on the Texas, AZ, New Mexico and Calf. border in order to launch an attack, with Chinese and Russian troops held in reserve and will follow up from mexico. UN troops numbering well over 1,000,000 ++ are already inside the U.S. and the CIA is working with the MS-13 and other gangs in the LGF, to start a crime wave that will cause us to accept gladly martial law. Its a clever use of the principle called the Helgelian Dialectic. There are over 3,000 U.S., Haliburton build concentration camps inside the U.S. now that are ready to be filled. The state of Calif is currently releasing over 40,000 felons in the prison system under the hoax of being overcrowded. Other states will follow. This serves two plans. One, is to use the felons as armed security officers with arrest powers since Chicago is now setting a precidence to giving Private Security officers the same powers as Law Enforcement. google this. They will disarm the good police and keep the ones trained by Blackwater nationwide and loyal to the new Order. The felons have undergone a program the past 15 +/- years called "the Christian Identity" to indoctrinate them in the new religion or new age movement, a false Christianity.

This is only scratching the surface of what they have planned. Wait until the KKK, Skin heads, 300,000 Militia rednecks start attacking the Government facilities including the possible strike agains the nuke facility in Michigan. The CIA has a well orchestrated plan to justify and give Obama the justification to declare Martial law. The North American Union is already signed and the Amero is backed by silver to replace the US Dollar. The ten world unions will have been formed in a short while since the last time I heard 7 were already formed. its coming.

Texas will not be allowed to separate........martial law will prevent this as this was already anticipated. People don't realize that a major military force of approximately 350,000 Mexicans, followed by who knows how many Chinese and Russian troops, with over 1,000,000 ++ UN military personnel backed by our own troops are going to assist in the declaration of martial law. Felons will be used as armed civilian security forces, as the states will release them under the BS of overcrowded prisons. The MS-13 and LGF latino crime gangs, KKK, African American Muslims and over 300,000 US Militia members nationwide will create a civil war, crime spree of sorts that will cause Americans to agree to martial law....and want it. Its the masterful use of a principle called the Helgelian Dialectic that they have used for GENERATIONS....millions are going to be targeted by the spreading of a weaponized Bird Flu or some sort of pandemic and there will be no secession. There are over 3,000 Concentration Camps built in the US by Halliburton and many thousands of cells will be empty in major prisons just waiting for the members of the Christian Underground or members of the new American Coalition...etc......its going to get ugly.

I really doubt there are that many right wing "extremist" groups out here... but there are a bunch....

Milita groups are also growing...and while some are not really what I would call ethical and are more than likely racist in nature there are also a larger number of groups that are more concerned with what has and is happening to this nation ...rather than use force (unless needed) they would rather... wake the polical hacks up to the fact that they are the real crooks and they are the danger...

with all due respect to Mr. Norris...how needs to think about what is really going on in this land before he starts labeling all groups as right wing extremeist groups... because we are not all leaning that direction...

For the posters and readers that are unclear as to what is going on in the US, just let me say that there is a lot of national unease.

For those of you who aren't real familiar with how Chuck Norris fits into this scheme, I'll try to enlighten you.

Before the boogeyman goes to sleep at night, he checks under his bed for Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris can lead a horse to water, and then make him drink.

I think it's telling that Chuck Norris counted to infinity.

Twice.

The primary reason that we can find no life on Mars, is because Chuck Norris has been there.

If Chuck says there are thousands of Constitutional cell groups organizing against the Fed, then you can pretty much take that to the bank.

Elderly, and middle-aged hard working folks themselves, for the first time in history are becoming fed up with our government, and want a return of the Constitutional government.

To sum this up, Chuck Norris contributes constantly to the Blood Bank. Just none of the blood is his.

I hope this makes our situation here more understandable.

[edit on 4-5-2009 by dooper]