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Originally posted by infolurker
Those "sheep" as you call them are AMERICAN human beings who love their
children, their wives, and their well being as much as YOU do.
Originally posted by Plasma applicator
Originally posted by Voiceoftreason
Originally posted by Plasma applicator
Originally posted by Voiceoftreason
reply to post by Plasma applicator
You're not wrong. However, if didn't think it'll be the other guy - hell, why not just top yourself now? You'll die anyway, right?
LOL..I guess rather than a chaotic cluster ____. I would rather see a consorted effort to see that the elites responsible for this mess were the ones dieing.
So would I. Unfortunately that "concerted effort" tend to be the next oppressors of the people, after the revolution. So I won't personally have a bar of it. Read up on the French Revolution.
Originally posted by alien
Nope...I wouldn't be keen for the World to descend into a chaotic cess-pool...though some people would argue it already is.
If the world is so bad, if people are wishing 'a change to happen'...then get off your butt and go change it. Don't sit there feeling angry, or dispondant, or apathetic, or getting all doom-n-gloom and bemoaning what the world has become....do something about it...
Really??...say hello to someone as you walk down the street, smile at someone, go mow your neighbours lawn or offer to wash the old lady next doors car or something...
...change doesn't have to be a whole 'rush out there and turn EVERYTHING back'...change can just as easily be one smile, one glance, one thank you...
Originally posted by SheepleFlavored
Hell no! That's my answer. My mother survived the "Reset" of her country that you all seem so keen on. I grew up hearing the horror stories and feel almost like I lived it myself. In fact, I had to be put on medication for awhile just to stop the endlesss looping replay of the images rattling through my head torturing my waking moments and my dreams. That is just from HEARING about it second hand. My mother herself has always been a haunted shell of the woman she could have been. She is incredibly intelligent but horribly uneducated which is a tragedy to witness. She is lucky to have survived and yet extremely unlucky in many ways.
The starvation, the deprivation, the depravity--the utter horror. You people have no idea, do you? The elderly, the women and the children stand no real chance. The stronger the men, the more despicable they seem to become as a result of being twisted by the horror around them. Even if they somehow survive physically they are shells of human beings forever. If you want a reset so desperately, haul your asses off to Mexico or the Sudan and help rebuild those people over there. Live off those lands, put your superior strength and abilities to the test and since they already have the chaos you crave, go ahead relocate and get it over with.
My street is filled with sweet innocent little kids and nice older retired couples who do everything to make holidays meaningful for all of us younger harried parents. They wouldn't stand a chance if the country as we know it collapses. We have no natural resources near us. None of us has had the time to be educated for anything beyond surviving in our office jobs. I guess that makes us expendable to a lot of ATS'ers. Fine, so be it.
Sign me officially disgusted and massively disappointed. I guess I'll need to look to some other resource for us poor weak sheeple to fight to preserve or restore what countless soldiers fought and died to protect. God bless our soldiers, they certainly never complained that they were laying their lives on the line for the small or the sick or the weak. At least my dad sure as hell wouldn't be caught talking up selfish post apocalyptic nonsense. He is a proud Viet Nam vet and also stayed and outlasted the drug gangs that tried to take over and destroy our neighborhood. No going off and hiding from the problem and destruction for him (or for me--I've stood down a few thugs, myself). But now he's old and tired, taking care of my now crippled mom. He has a gun but probably not the ability to use it well anymore. But to hell with him, right? Every man for himself. Nobody owes my dad anything for his sacrifices.
Plus, I would really miss having a reliable supply of toilet paper. So count me out of any Apocalypse Parties. I'll do everything I can to at least preserve what we have, and better yet, fix it back up. I don't yet know how, but I'll do my best to learn.
Originally posted by jatsc
Originally posted by verylowfrequency
Hell no it's not something I look forward too - as allot of people are going to die - mostly children and 99% of people over 70. I'll deal with it when it comes, but it's not what I want.
I'm 74" and 285lbs and even though I'm over 40 years old I'm still bigger, stronger, faster and smarter than 95% of the population roaming the earth. Unless I'm in the wrong place at the wrong time when a meteor hits or something or I blow a heart valve and can't find a heart surgeon I am going to survive - unless of course I'm 70 when it hits. As always I will stand up and help the weak, but I'll have to cut stupid people loose to survive.
What how could you survive when your 74 and you said 99% of the people over 70 will die then you said your going to survive unless of course I'm over 70 when it hits but your over 70 ? That makes no sense.
Originally posted by Navieko
I don't need to do anything about it. Change for the better is coming -- with or without my help. It's only a matter of time.
Cute, but that depends on what you call change -- what you define as "freedom".
And I don't know about the others, but I'm quite confident in my abilities to realistically make it through such a scenario. I live in arguably the most safest place in the world. In the last 8 years I've taught myself to become somewhat of an expert in living off the land. I don't even need to stock food/seeds. I know the "bush tucker" -- where to find it/how to prepare it.
My problem is I believe we need to start from scratch in order to finally make this dream a reality. We just need the right mindset going forward to make it work -- a mindset in which we've learned from our mistakes.
I've lost all hope in the collective mindset of today. Another chance is all I want to see.
Originally posted by rawsom
Here's a theory.
If economic system does collapse, it causes extreme povetry for tens of millions of people in USA.
Those tens of millions of people will want food from somewhere, somehow.
To get that food they do crimes so that they don't starve to death.
Goverment is completely unable to control such a huge mass of people so that there would be peaceful and not that much crimes.
Socialist system is forced into place to prevent all crime that will follow from collapse of econommic system.
I just wonder how many would want that in there. I live in Finland, we have it and it works great. But.. I respect people of USA who want to have a different system, and I don't really understand why you would want to have a socialist system in place, as your culture is so totally different from ours.
I know this theory from experience and observation. It has happened in almost every single country that has lost a war and then gained independence anyway. USA propably won't be an exception. History repeats itself.