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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 02:32 PM by Corex
First i thought was that we wen't back in time, sure it's well know that isn't possible at all because we don't know the theory how. But maybe we found a way, a very violent way that made it only work to go back for let's say 10,000 years so travel 2 years back doesn't work. And for example the pictures (hieroglyph's?-dunno what to call them) in the pyramid that shows a jet, helicopter and a submarine was a way to "hope" we understood that it was possible and since we can't meet they had to communicate with us that way. Now i'm just making stuff up as i type but if we now could go back in time 10,000 years why don't we so they'll end up in our time frame. Maybe something happend to earth in the future who knows, did we get a warning? And why didn't we for let's say engrave titan panels and type: we we're here tards!! Maybe has to do with the actual time travel limitations and we use that we had when we arrived back in time, (example, can't bring tools and accessories) not very intelligent life that would work freely for ya since we are so superior and give them stuff (knowledge). Also, why didn't we stay for long, travel limitations maybe or simply future humans didn't wanna stay for more than 20 years as we don't wanna go to mars for 1 year today. Sure sounds really crazy but why draw the line at aliens or humans. We humans are very good at rejecting things for example earth orbits the sun was rejected, that the world was round was rejected and for example today we reject that traveling back in time is rejected among other things. Maybe we showed the primates how to form and use copper since it was the essentials for evolution. And who know's maybe we *hurmph* fertilized a couple of ladies and boosted evolution =)

Just a though not a theory, don't wanna p*** people off on my first post here =)

PS: Sry for my bad English, i'm Swedish =/

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reply posted on 8-9-2009 @ 03:06 PM by tmayhew01
reply to post by UnitedSatesofFreemasons



I really don't believe anything about this THEORY of aliens building Puma Punku and having such an influence on the ancients. I mean, especially if you consider what OUR approach towards another civilization would be if we were capable of interplanetary travel.

Thats not to argue that there are definitely several theories out there. But I would have to say the most plausible one would be: If we found a distant intelligent civilization we would most likely avoid as much contact as possible to minimize our overall influence on the inferior civilization. Furthermore, we would most likely just be there to study and observe the culture, much less build their civilizations for them. Just think about it, what really is the most plausible theory?

Thats not to say I don't want to believe, however simpler and more believable solutions do exist. And if one considers the theory of Occam's Razor, I feel that the alien story is a little far fetched at times.

Especially when the History Channel airs an episode on ancient Civilizations supposedly being influenced by ancient aliens. Then they go further and back a lot of their arguments based on Erich Von Daniken's theories and ideas!

For those of you that don't know Daniken, a swiss author of Chariots of The Gods and avid ET supporter. He has made several claims over the years regarding the presence of aliens and their impact they have made on our own planetary history.

However, when one looks more closely at Van Daniken you will learn that he has not only been up to his neck in legal problems... but he has also been arrested, YES arrested, for fraud and embezzlement! Which ultimately lead him to spend several years incarcerated in Swiss prisons.

Now do the math here people, are you really going to take the word of such an unreliable source? I can tell you that I will not, but I'll let you come to your own decision.

SOURCE Von Däniken's run-ins with the law started at an early age. In the 1960s, Von Däniken worked in hotels and restaurants across Switzerland, and then he was convicted of fraud, serving a prison sentence for defrauding his boss at one hotel. In 1967, soon after Chariots of the Gods was published he was arrested and charged by Interpol with fraud and tax evasion for non-payment of $14,000.00. On behalf of the prosecution, he was ordered by the Court to undergo psychological examinations. During the investigation, authorities uncovered a large personal debt totaling about $700,000. Von Däniken was found guilty of embezzlement, and he served more than three years in Swiss prisons


And YES!!! These are some of the best engineered and magnificent structures from ancient times. The shear precision and perfection that was engineered into these structures is utterly mind blowing! The exact theory as to how these megaliths were built still puzzles modern researchers and scientists today.

But for people to automatically jump to the extraterrestrial conclusion, off the bat without doing their homework is absurd!!! Inform yourselves people, give credit to the ingenuity of the human mind! Just because these were built thousands of years ago doesn't discredit the ability of the ancients to find ways to erect such monumental structures. The human mind is the most complex 'machine' that we have ever known! The workings and capabilities are STILL vastly unknown in this current day and age. All the recent "break-through's" in science lead me to believe the brain is greatly unchartered territory and our true capabilities are outside the realm of our current knowledge.

Now I am no expert in this field, and I am sure there are several of you out there that know much more about this topic than myself. But the dots just don't connect for me. Maybe somebody can come on here and prove me wrong. But without any credible evidence supporting this idea it is still just another theory, to say the least.


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reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 10:17 AM by PsykoOps
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He has made several claims over the years regarding the presence of aliens...


You're getting it all wrong, he is questioning the possibility. He makes questions and possible theories. If you read the book there's quite alot of question marks in his sentences.
And what does tax trouble have to do with the guys credibility on this field? I don't see the connection.


reply posted on 9-9-2009 @ 12:39 PM by tmayhew01
Originally posted by PsykoOps

You're getting it all wrong, he is questioning the possibility. He makes questions and possible theories. If you read the book there's quite alot of question marks in his sentences.
And what does tax trouble have to do with the guys credibility on this field? I don't see the connection.


He may be questioning the possibility or trying to push his opinions and ET assumptions on others; we can argue his intentions all day.

But the fact of the matter is this man is a CRIMINAL! He has been convicted twice for fraud and has been ordered by court to undergo psychological examinations! Now if this isn't a red flag I don't know what is. I personally do not trust the credibility of somebody who has clearly been acting with dishonest intent throughout a large portion of his life. We can speculate this all day, but what it comes down to... is most people will dismiss this guys outrageous claims based upon the above FACTS.

If you want to learn more about why I feel like this guy is a 'loony bin' then listen to the coast to coast am radio show guest staring Von Daniken. Some of it is absurd, to the point where he has claimed he is an alien hybrid and so forth. If your interested let me know and I will find the exact podcast.

As for his so called claims regarding ancient aliens and others supporters involved in the Puma Punku ET influence THEORY... Their reasoning is flawed. Where is the physical evidence? Yes some of it is very very interesting. But to discredit the true powers and abilities of human engenuity is silly. Of course we could have built these, we may not know how they were built. But think about it, how much more advanced are we? How long has it been since they were built. Clues have disappeared into the abyss of history and have become a casualty of time. Yes, their engineering is absolutely amazing and still ponders the most advanced researchers today. But jumping to the ET conclusion is a little childish.

Now I do have conflicting views on this... I am not entirely to say that ET's didn't have some type of possible influence on the ancients. But to the point where they helped construct the ancient world and so forth? NO! at least not based upon current scientific reasoning and theory. Again we can SPECULATE all day about the ET influence, but the fact of the matter is.... Where is the hard physical proof?


reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 08:26 AM by Hanslune
reply to post by Harte



Finally caught you in an error Harte

You accidently credited EVD with creditabity which you claim he lost - in actuality he never had any.

LOL


reply posted on 10-9-2009 @ 09:04 AM by PsykoOps
reply to post by Harte



Source for that horizons thing even though I don't think it matters? I don't really care if the original idea comes from Al Capone or someone. That doesn't make puma punku + the other sites disappear.


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 04:20 PM by DaMod
reply to post by paraphi



How could an ancient people carve stones that can only be cut with diamonds without any diamonds? Impossible, cant be done.

Wait yes it can! They could have used lasers! Or or explosives or or a magnesium torch!

Get real...

Read post above.


reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 05:13 PM by RuneSpider
reply to post by DaMod



Diorite is certainly not the second toughest rock, and does not need to be strictly be worked by diamonds.

There's been plenty of evidence of that that's been mentioned in this very same thread.
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