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Pentagon says Chinese vessels harassed U.S. ship

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posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 12:22 AM
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Well then they should do what is right and not appose the US or they may never see a red cent




posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 12:27 AM
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Great
What if they want their money back that we borrowed from them?


Same thing that happens at Wal-Mart when we want to return the junk the Chinese bombard us with.

Go the customer service desk. Stand in line. Bring an original copy of your contract and proof that funds were transferred and received. Have them blue backed and notarized in triplicate. Please provide valid proof of your nation's identity. Give all copies to the smiling customer service agent. Your documents will be reviewed promptly and any amounts owed will be returned you in 7 to 10 working days. We of course reserve the right to select which combination of 7 to 10 working days that will be.

Wait for the check in the mail, and in the meantime lets schedule lunch.

[edit on 10/3/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 01:50 AM
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Originally posted by Bejing
Great
What if they want their money back that we borrowed from them?


If I recall correctly (and I could be wrong), the loans were in the form of 30 year bonds, which means they can't collect until the bonds mature.


BFO

posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by Mainer
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The report also said that the U.S. ship was unarmed. Somehow I disbelieve this.


Somehow, we refuse to learn from history. It may have been a situation like the USS Pueblo: en.wikipedia.org...(AGER-2) - which should never go out alone on open waters, without a destroyer escort anyway. Our Navy is the only one who lets unescorted spy ships have a wide berth.

We have not been respected by the Chinese since we helped protect them from the Japanese during WWII. Now, they are literally mooning us? Or what? Water cannons? Then they were just fooling around?

We should be more concerned about things like the fact that Obama is sending tens of thousands of US Troops into Afghanistan, when he built his whole campaign as the "Peace Candidate".


Plus, US lives are on the line to protect Chinese mining interests there:
communities.canada.com... otection.aspx

Granted, they won the bid to develop the mine from the Afghanistani Government during Bush's watch. And, no doubt because it was better planned out than any of the US competitors. But the Chinese plan includes developing energy to run the mine from a coal powered plan. I am sure the Chinese are not even bothering to consider "clean coal" technology, which is an oxymoron in the first place. Their plan probably includes processing the ore into copper ingots, which makes sense. But, I would also guess that the French and others submitted comprehensive proposals for the copper mine as well, probably more environmentally sound.

For the Afghans to give the contract to the Chinese...definitely not friendly to the US and it's troops defending the Chinese contractors. Bad business, and worse negotiation for our troops to be defending the Chinese when they have a much bigger Army than the US anyway.

When you look at what the US is doing to support the New World Order, it is the Chinese who are the ones poised to usurp resources around the Globe and, literally, the life blood of the citizens of the US.

It looks like the USA is becoming no more than the culling ground for soldiers to enforce the economic policies of the New World Order.

[edit on 3/10/0909 by BFO]



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 02:31 AM
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Hmm... Isn't there well know Chinese activity involving under water bases for their new subs? Maybe that's why the US ship was there and that's why the Chinese sent civilian ships to harass them, not wanting to bring more military attention to the area. Plus Russia has them nice big subs somewhere out there also.



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 02:45 AM
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I read a lot of talk about "suffer USA" and "USA debt ridden the Chinese rub it in your faces" type of talk.

You want to hope the US dos not come to a point where war is the only answer to the crisis they face, because whether win, lose or draw, MANY lives will be lost - on both sides of the conflict.

I can never understand this attitude. A stable US means a stable world. Sure the US is not innocent, but its citizens, the average moms and dads are. Just like anywhere else in the world. To wish misery on the US is to wish misery upon yourself, because if the US does go to war, it will drag the entire globe into war with it. Directly or indirectly everyone will be effected.

Personally I hope the US gets out of this mess, and the rest of the world gets out of the mess we are currently in. To wish Americas destruction is stupidity without reason. We are know a global community whether we like it or not, and a US in trouble effects everyone. And a US at war with anyone, esp China would be the entire worlds worse nightmare - no matter who you like or hate.



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 02:46 AM
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The mission of Impeccable is to directly support the Navy by using SURTASS passive and active low frequency sonar arrays to detect and track undersea threats.

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sounds like to me China had its subs out playing in international waters and didn't like the U.S. tracking and recording their sonar signature.

And yes the Impeccable and her sister ships are unarmed.

Whether China likes it or not the U.S. or any countries navy has the right to be in international waters. And China's actions could very well start a war if they continue to harass Vessels or cause the sinking of vessels in international waters.

If China continues to harass unarmed ships in international waters then the U.S. will start escorting them with destroyers and frigates. I very seriously doubt China would want that to happen.

[edit on 3/10/2009 by Mercenary2007]

[edit on 3/10/2009 by Mercenary2007]


BFO

posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 02:54 AM
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Originally posted by LiquidLight

Originally posted by Bejing
Great
What if they want their money back that we borrowed from them?


If I recall correctly (and I could be wrong), the loans were in the form of 30 year bonds, which means they can't collect until the bonds mature.


The bond market is the most secure investment on the Planet at present. Why the f**k Clinton felt it necessary to make more concessions to the Chinese is beyond reason.


Lately in her photo ops, she has looked like people I know who have serious alcohol problems. That is -all- the US needs: an AA dropout running the Ship of State. It isn't funny!

[edit on 3/10/0909 by BFO]



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 03:19 AM
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CHINESE SAY WHAT? CHINESE WON COOKIE? CHINESE MOONIE PANTIES...CHINESE GO BOOM...

WON TIME AGO THER WAS SHANG KIE SHECK AND WON PEE KING
THEY MOONED WON BOAT AND THE WON BACK SIDE GOT PONGED...



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 03:33 AM
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I really do think I felt ATS's maturity drop steeply after reading that.

Please let's try not to turn ATS into a public school playground.

And all caps posts are considered to be YELLING on the internet.




I wonder why the Chinese fleets are acting so brazenly lately.
On face value it seems like quite the idiotic thing to do.

Yes the US is over their heads in debt... but that just means they'd be all the more willing to unload some of their munitions. War is money.

Confusing to say the least.



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 04:49 AM
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Well, let's take a second to see it from a different perspective: How would the U.S. feel, if it knew Chinese ships were conducting "surveillance" on its shores. Besides, naming your ship "USNS Impeccable" sounds almost like a taunt
... I translate it as, "Bitch, you can't touch me." Perhaps China doesn't want to look like a wuss.



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
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For all of those who claim China is the new super power just don't realize just how many of their 1.6 billion people still live in horrible poverty and that the cities they show are for a very small percentage of their relative population.

Factor that in and they have a very long way to go to be a real world power.



Correct, they also have 8 of the world's 10 most polluted cities.. Its a fair sacrifice to make to try and keep themselves in the race.

[edit on 10-3-2009 by ItsallCrazy]



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 07:50 AM
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Lol well, you can read my 4th post in the link below regarding this false flag

www.abovetopsecret.com...


To make it clear here, if this was an Iranian boat im very sure there would have been several f16 within several minutes doing flyby's.
So hey, how about these false flag post's chill out abit.

[edit on 10-3-2009 by tristar]



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 07:57 AM
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"shadowed and aggressively maneuvered in dangerously close proximity to USNS Impeccable, in an apparent coordinated effort to harass the U.S. ocean surveillance ship while it was conducting routine operations in international waters,"


I will translate for you all.

Followed and had a look see in close proximity to USNS Impeccable in an apparent effort to stop the US ocean surveillance ship while it was spying in international water.





posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 08:53 AM
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How many nukes could the US hit China with before they had a chance to reply in kind?

Do they have ICBM warning measures and the ability to shoot them down if detected?

If the US got in first could they nuke enough of China before they could fire back?



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 08:57 AM
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China: Activity by Confronted U.S. Ship Was Illegal





The episode had overtones of spycraft, but the U.S. ship is not, strictly speaking, a spy ship. It maps the ocean floor with sonar, compiling information the Navy can use to steer its own submarines or track those of other nations



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 09:21 AM
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The area the spy ship was in is home to some of China's nuclear submarine fleet, southern fleet and one of the largest Sub bases in China.

It is a US spy ship, it was trying to map the area. Big flipping deal, we have been flying over Europe and Asia mapping continents since end of WW2 ( gary powers ). Why are we surprised when people shoot down our spy planes and face off spy ships. Its the great game, if we cannot take the hit dont send the spys.


CHinese banking is not beholden to rothschild family, Bank of CHina took a 20% stake in Rothschild last year. China has massive reserves worldwide that match or exceed Rothschild family holdings. I would not be surprised to learn that current economic problems are Rothschild and Chinese battling it out for banking supremacy.

USA is quickly becoming a footnote in history if American leadership does not recognize the gameboard.



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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Maybe the Chinese should call in the police to forclose on our country like any good bank would.
Or they should stop doing buisness with us all together then where will we get our plastic from?
Or they could move into mexico and start riding destroyers and spy ships across our waters to see how we like it, like some new cold war. (air-raid)
Or they could drive across to the persain gulf and shut off our oil supply until we run out of gas.
Whatever.




posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 11:14 AM
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Well, you've got to monitor that cave inhabitant-Reptilian/Chinese Alliance from a distance won't ya?

In any case, The Chinese Triad/gvt have became master of following/harrasing
people or military. Guess they don't like being spyed on when the table switched side... meh...bunch of spies...



posted on Mar, 10 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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Originally posted by 0010110011101
How many nukes could the US hit China with before they had a chance to reply in kind?

Do they have ICBM warning measures and the ability to shoot them down if detected?

If the US got in first could they nuke enough of China before they could fire back?


No worries there comrade. China is rigged with explosive inside the many caves/subterran network...thanks to a western friendly reptoid faction. Continental nukes aint a problem (how could you fire a missile when the ground is leveled?) But the real threat are the mobile tacticals nukes, the one floating inside submarines around the world, undetected, sleeping... on guard....they've always been the REAL threat.




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