Billboard For Rush: Dems Putting Sign Outside Limbaugh's Home, page 3

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Who is the private citizen that is being smeared? I didnt get that from the article.

If you mean Rush, he is a public persona/figure. That makes him a target, certaionly a man as old and big as Rush can take what hes been dishing out for decades now. I wouldnt worry about fatcat Rush. I worry about our children and why they dont have textbooks for each student in the schools in my district, but hey, everyone has pet causes.

Originally posted by hotbakedtater
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Who is the private citizen that is being smeared? I didnt get that from the article.

If you mean Rush, he is a public persona/figure. That makes him a target, certaionly a man as old and big as Rush can take what hes been dishing out for decades now. I wouldnt worry about fatcat Rush. I worry about our children and why they dont have textbooks for each student in the schools in my district, but hey, everyone has pet causes.

That's the problem. "That makes him a TARGET". That line of thinking doesn't bother you? There was another President who thought that way... NIXON!

Change we can believe in?

Yeah, only $14,000 per student per school year. With that kind of cash every kid should get a computer, a retirement plan, a down payment on a car and house. I know textbooks are expensive but come one.

Also, where's the logic here? We are going to spend money that they could never pay off, to give them textbooks? They will never be able to pay off the debt we are creating now, and somehow we're doing them a favor?

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reply to post by jsobecky

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then the republican national committee is part of the government too. and it has senators and representatives and had a president in the last regime and it has attacked private citizens all along...is that what your saying???

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It doesn't come off as a surprise to me, just par for the course, for this admin. It appears they have an extremely thin skin. They are trying to move this country to a socialist type of country and do it within 2 years.

In order for that to happen they have to take out the opposition and silence debate. The whole basis for them using these style tactics is so they don't have to explain the policy or the ideas behind it. BHO can stand up in front of the camera and continue to speak out of both sides off his mouth with flowery rhetoric, then as soon as he walks off stage do something completely different than what he just said.

It really isn't hard to see if you pay attention and try to remain unbiased. The thing about all this is that the Republicans are going to catch heck for standing up for fiscal conservatism after they spent like liberals for the past 8 years.

If the dems had to openly explain their policies they would be toast. They know this so to counter act this and keep the public's mind off of the issues that matter they are acting childish and immature in order to silence debate.

Funny thing is RDR17 said it best, if this was Rove that authorized this it would be all over MSNBC for days. The double standard really is showing. So far the excuse has been it is Bush's fault, and the Republicans did it so it is okay if we do it.

That is why the opposition to Obama is growing pretty fast.



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[edit on 9-3-2009 by Hastobemoretolife]

Originally posted by RDR17
Imagine for a second, how would you look at it if Karl Rove and the Bush White House put up billboards outside the New York Time, the L.A. times, plus most other major newspapers, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, air America... or even just Keith Olberman's house. Would you be defending them? I highly doubt it.

I have MANY TIMES defended the free speech rights of people with whom I disagree. I would staunchly defend their right. Did you notice I have several times said that this action is childish and I disagree with it?

Here, I defended the whole Barack the Magic Negro thing.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Hey, like I said, I don't really have a problem with it. I'm not arguing that it shouldn't have been done. I'm a free-speech advocate. My point is that it's about the stupidest thing a person could do! And he's now in hot water over it.

Rush is not bigoted or racist at all.

Okay.

They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares? - Rush Limbaugh

Take that bone out of your nose and call me back(to an African American female caller). -Rush Limbaugh

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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by jsobecky
One is a private citizen. The other is a politician. It is never right for a gov't to interfere in permitted free speech.

And they're not. How have they interfered in Rush's free speech?

By using the power and the bully pulpit of the US government and the office of the president to intimidate Limbaugh, and to attempt to ostracize him and to attempt to sway public opinion against him. By using these tactics to garner backdoor support for reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine.

The US government must stay out of it.

According to whom?

According to the US Constitution.

Notice that the issue of the gov't attacking a private citizen because of ideological differences is not being addressed here by the Obama advocates.

I'll address it. I don't see the problem with the DNC or even the government publicly disagreeing with Rush. Disagreement is NOT an attack.

Your opinion only. It is not 'disagreement only'. It has taken on a much larger scope than that. It is using government resources and spending money to denigrate a private citizen.

Hitler and Goebbels did the same thing to their detractors. That is, before they gained enough power to just have them killed.

Originally posted by RDR17

Originally posted by jimmyx
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THE DNC IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT!!! can you show anywhere, anyhow, any proof that it is???? why are you saying things that are blatantly false??

Maybe they are not officially the government, but THEY CONTROL IT!!!!!!!!! What's the difference? Honestly, this is not a great argument for the left here. The President is erring by taking on Rush. Even if the President is right, he disrespects the office by attacking a radio DJ from the White House. This is so stupid I can't even believe it's coming from the team that sold the world on Obama. You'd think they be smarter than this.

the president is erring on taking on rush??? rush limbaugh that said he wanted the president to fail at his job!! don't the middle eastern terriosts and Osama bin Laden want the same thing???

rush limbaugh is the one controlling the republicans, just look how every republican falls all over themselves apologizing to a radio DJ. republicans can't even stand up to a radio DJ, and they want back in power??? show some spine, for gods sake

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[edit on 9-3-2009 by jimmyx]

Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by RDR17

Originally posted by jimmyx
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THE DNC IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT!!! can you show anywhere, anyhow, any proof that it is???? why are you saying things that are blatantly false??

Maybe they are not officially the government, but THEY CONTROL IT!!!!!!!!! What's the difference? Honestly, this is not a great argument for the left here. The President is erring by taking on Rush. Even if the President is right, he disrespects the office by attacking a radio DJ from the White House. This is so stupid I can't even believe it's coming from the team that sold the world on Obama. You'd think they be smarter than this.

the presidentis erring on taking on rush??? rush limbaugh that said he wanted the president to fail at his job??? don't the middle eastern terriosts and Osama bin Laden want the same thing???

You know damn well that Rush was referring to the President's Socialist err let's say Big Government agenda. We as citizens need to stay intellectually honest. I like many of your post's, and I find myself agreeing with you from time to time, you very often you show a willingness to be honest. Don't let your politics cloud your principles.

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Originally posted by jimmyx
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THE DNC IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT!!! can you show anywhere, anyhow, any proof that it is???? why are you saying things that are blatantly false??

The DNC is the governing body of the Democratic party. It is governed by many elected officials, including it's current chairman, the governor of Virginia. The DNC works hand-in-glove with the administration to formulate and communicate party policy.

Talk about 'TPTB'. The DNC is TPTB for the Democratic Party.

reply to post by spines

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Yes, I am being serious. Please understand that being a Republican and a Conservative are not exactly the same. Liberalism is a failed ideology. So many contradictions. Failure to take responsibility for actions, Supporting abortion yet opposing the death penalty, etc. etc.

A generalization is that liberals want to silence anyone who opposes them but fight for free speech for themselves. Anyone who opposes them is a hater.

Limbaugh, Joe the Plumber, Jindal; all torn apart for speaking out against Obama.

Our universities, institutions, and media are infiltrated with liberals. Major propaganda and bombardment of liberal thought.

It is your right to choose liberal thinking over conservative thinking. However, I urge you to do some further investigation.

Originally posted by SailorinAZ
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Yes, I am being serious. Please understand that being a Republican and a Conservative are not exactly the same. Liberalism is a failed ideology. So many contradictions. Failure to take responsibility for actions, Supporting abortion yet opposing the death penalty, etc. etc.

A generalization is that liberals want to silence anyone who opposes them but fight for free speech for themselves. Anyone who opposes them is a hater.

Limbaugh, Joe the Plumber, Jindal; all torn apart for speaking out against Obama.

Our universities, institutions, and media are infiltrated with liberals. Major propaganda and bombardment of liberal thought.

It is your right to choose liberal thinking over conservative thinking. However, I urge you to do some further investigation.

yeah right..liberalism is a failed policy...that's why 8 million more voters wanted it. maybe the majority of people in this country want politicians who actually HELP THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE.

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Originally posted by intrepid
I recall during the election there were many right leaning folks that had harsh words for Hollywood types that supposted Obama. What makes this any different?

Were those 'right leaning folks' government officials or private citizens?

Secondly, as BH pointed out, isn't this THEIR free speech? Does free speech come into play when it's only the speech you as the individual want to hear?

There is a limit to free speech when it comes to the government. It can be classified as propaganda.

Gov't may have a right, or even a duty, to express what amounts to opinion, when it concerns policy. But when they turn that spotlight on private citizens, they have crossed a major line.

Lastly, why doesn't Rush take his hundreds of millions and get a penthouse? He can't be bothered then.

Oh, he has his penthouses, his private jets, his spread in Tampa. And believe me, this is not bothering him at all. He's rolling in the attention and the current ratings, which are through the roof.

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