posted on Mar, 9 2009 @ 09:13 PM
Thanks everyone for your posts thus far. So far my tally is:
NAY: 5thElement, RuneSpider, Ian McLean, Cyberbian, SevenThunders
On the bench: ragman, mithrawept, Cauch1, Aeons
So 5 nays and 4 maybes. Still no takers.
Here's some additional reasoning behind my madness.
RuneSpider, Ian: you state that pi is the value created by dividing the circumference of a circle by it's diameter. Now that's excellent two
dimensional thinking. Let's kick it up a notch and go 3 dimensional. The volume of a sphere equal pi * d^4 / 6. Lets kick it up a notch and go 4
dimensional.
I had you going! I'm not that smart but I bet there is an equation for that too. My point is that pi seems to be a value that has intrinsic to our
concept of dimensions and reality and that Hawking and other scientist have theorized that dimensions are changing.
Cyberbian: you say that if pi is changing it would be detectable. It is theorized that as one accelerates toward the speed of light that time
experienced for that person continues normally. Time for an observer moves normally. However when the two meet up their clocks do not match up. My
point being is that it may not be detectable from our perspective. It is a known fact that as satellites orbit our planet their highly accurate
internal clocks must be updated regularly with real earth time due to this drift. What if the same could be said for the calculation of Pi?
SevenThunders: you are thinking like me but what if the laws of our universe defines our math? If our universe changes, does our math change with it?
Is there a point where the universe collapses into itself and everything, every number, every formula: adds up to infinity and at the big bang
everything adds up to 0?
ragman: "lofty assumption that the fundamental laws of logic". I'm a strange creature because I believe that the laws change.
Cauch1, "However the universe will not cool as you put it unless there is a way for energy from our universe to be leeched.."
You almost have it!!! If I had stated that the laws of our dimensional reality were UNIFORM throughout our universe you would be absolutely correct.
However I'm not saying that. The laws change based on mass and energy. During the big bang when there were theorized to be many more dimensions
there was a lot of mass/energy in a small small area. The laws as we know them may differ to an observer near a black hole vs our observations on
this rock. Who says they have to be constant?
mithrawept: I think that the person that made that quote is an extremely intelligent person.
Aeons: great thinking but if the number of different universes/realities is infinite then wouldn't exactly half contain life and half wouldn't?
tgidkp: I will research PHI more thanks for the tip though I'm a little skeptical of the number due to it's correlation with a biological species.
Not something as clear cut as a circle or sphere.
Best regards,
Obsidience
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