Implying that Coumadin or Wafarin is a poison, is a misnomer. Unless of course the point is that ALL drugs are poisons, but we know better than that, drugs have many helpful positive uses.

Coumadin is used to kill rodents for the very same reason it can save lives, it thins the blood. If you took too much of it, it would kill you. Not that hard to understand.

As someone whose life was saved by Coumadin, I'm very happy that doctors figured out that there are instances when using an anti-coagulant can aid human health.

I didn't read the whole thread, just the first page.

I see that many people have already said that no flu vaccine was available in 1918. That is absolutely true. The OP's own article clearly states that the first flu vaccine was distributed in 1976. The OP should have referenced the fact that the Swine Flu vaccine killed more people than the Swine Flu was projected to kill without the vaccine. Oops! That was a major setback for the vaccination program.

What I would like to mention about the Spanish Flu is that the major factor in spreading the disease was WWI. In the final months of the war, the Spanish Flu was killing more soldiers than bullets and shells were. It was the Spanish Flu, in fact that drove the Germans to the negotiating table.

Once the war ended, all those soldiers went home and carried the Flu with them. The Spanish Flu had been incubated and concentrated in the close quarters of the trenches. Then those soldiers carried it home to their families who had no resistance to it. I seriously doubt that the Spanish Flu would have killed so many people if it had not been for WWI. It was actually rumored for years that the Spanish Flu was introduced to the battlefield by the Germans as a primitive bioweapon. I remember my Grandmother telling me this. She swore that it was true.

By the way, all of my Grandparents lived through the Spanish Flu pandemic, and so they developed anti-bodies for it. Chances are that I carry those anti-bodies and you probably do too. If the Spanish Flu were accidentially released into the populace, it would probably not be any worse than the Hong Kong Flu, or Swine Flu.

On the subject of flu vaccines though, I am with those who say that they don't take the vaccinations. I have not had a good experience with vaccines in general.

I used to have to get the flu shot each year as part of the Air Force Reserves. Every year I developed the flu about a week after getting the shot.

I have had bad luck with other vaccines as well. I got violently ill from a DPT shot when I was 20 and I developed a fever of 103 for a couple of days.

I had to travel out of the country a few years ago and my travel doctor told me that I had no immunity to Chicken Pox. So, I got the shot. I developed Chicken Pox, even though the odds of that was on the order of 1 in 1000. But hey, now I have immunity to Chicken Pox.

This is disinformation. The thread title should be changed to reflect that. There is plenty of evidence to prove there was no flu vaccine in 1918. I call pandering.

Frankly people who campaign against vaccinations of any kind are dangerous. I would go so far as to remove my children from any school that did not insist on all the standard vaccinations.

Re the Flu; of all the people I know who get the Flu Vaccine each year none have ever caught the flu. One shot seems to last me for about four years (only ever remember about every four years) but since I began getting them I have never had the flu. A lot of people mistake a bad cold for the flu. As someone who used to get the flu regularly they are nothing alike. One is an inconvenience the other makes you feel like death.

I've had the flu one time in the past twenty years and I've never had the flu shot.

You can't always go by your own averages when advising someone else.

You might be on to something. But every year I had never taken the flu shot and every year I had gotten very very sick, I would get the flu 2 or 3 times a year. Last year I decided to take the shot and surprisingly I never got sick yet. So what does this mean?

DAMMIT! I had a DTP vaccination in school last week!

This thread title should be changed to reflect that it is a hoax/misinformation. Or perhaps, Lie. I vote Lie.

I don't have a source for what I am about to say, but I guess it could be researched. I thought it was common knowledge that although influenza vaccines were not safely produced unitl around 1930 and not approved for the general public until 1945, soldiers returning from the war were given a botched version of an influenza vaccine in 1918.

These men soon developed strange symptoms which were explained away as 'shell shock' - and of course, many of them died.

Dr McBean's comments on a 'vaccine' that was used in 1918 should not influence the modern use of specific flu vaccines today.

Doesn't explain the people who didn't become soldiers that died. 3 people in my husband's family caught it, and one of them died. He was 28.

'shell shock'

That is now called Post Traumatic Stress Disorder PTSD.

It has nothing to do with flu shots or any type shots except being gun shot in some cases.

Originally posted by hawaiigurl
You might be on to something. But every year I had never taken the flu shot and every year I had gotten very very sick, I would get the flu 2 or 3 times a year. Last year I decided to take the shot and surprisingly I never got sick yet. So what does this mean?

It means you have a really weak immune system. To reslove your problem (and not simply band-aid it), you have to strengthen your immune system. Eat some boogers once in a while. Stop using hand sanitizers. Have someone sneeze on you once in a while. Go play in some trash... anything but taking the stupid shot man.

I am only using logic... something that has been lost these days. I very, very rarely get sick. I do not get shots. When I was a kid, I almost drowned in a vat of cow manure... swallowed a bunch of it and had to have my stomach pumped. As a kid growing up in a post-communist Poland, we didn't have many toys... we would have to use our imaginations (again, something lacking this day and age) and we used the large garbage collector bins to play 'tanks' in. The amount of germs I have been exposed to over my life is impressive. I'm sure lots of travel to many countries had some influence on my immune system as well as I probably picked up germs that my body had never seen before. Point is... if your immune system is strong, you don't need a damned vaccine.

I very rarely get sick.

Asking anyone to trust big pharma is like G.W., the Devil and Alex Jones just saying "Trust me, I wouldn't lie for my own gain... I want nothing but the best for you."

Laughable at best.