Very Interesting - 1918 Flu Pandemic - Killed ONLY those Who RECEIVED Flu Shots - Not those who refu, page 1
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Topic started on 8-3-2009 @ 08:53 AM by questioningall
Very interesting and worrisome article that has come out, about the 1918 Flu Pandemic. Only those who got a Flu Shot - got sick, those who did NOT get a shot - did NOT get sick.

link to article:
www.naturalnews.com...

review in The Lancet suggests that influenza vaccination of infants is useless. Each and every year at this time medical officials come out to remind us of our mortal danger. However, they advocate medical procedures that do little to nothing to protect us, but cost billions nonetheless. Dr. Eleanor McBean was an on-the-spot observer of the 1918 influenza epidemic and said, "As far as I could find out, the flu hit only the vaccinated. Those who had refused the shots escaped the flu. My family had refused all the vaccinations so we remained well all the time.


Just over thirty years ago, in 1976, the Centers for Disease Control investigated and confirmed that a severe influenza outbreak at Fort Dix, New Jersey, had been caused by the "swine flu" -- an influenza A-type virus. The Department of Health, Education, and Welfare grew concerned that the United States might be about to see another large national flu pandemic, involving numbers of influenza deaths reminiscent of the flu pandemic of 1918. The federal government deemed it prudent to vaccinate all Americans. In October 1976, the National influenza Immunization Program officially began.


Here is a thread - about Alex Jones saying NO VACCINES!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here is a thread about Baxter sending a live virus in vaccine "by accident"

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I had told everyone I knew (that I thought would listen) - last fall - NOT to get a flu vaccine. I think the die has been set, things are going at a very fast pace.............. so I trust NO vaccine or medical "help".

Only five types of influenza are known to infect humans: HI, H2, H3, and Nl or N2. The avian influenza viruses H4, H5, and H7 make birds sick but usually don't infect humans. That may be about to change, however. In addition to its technical designation, when the flu becomes a human infection, each of the different influenza A viruses is given a common name corresponding to the place of outbreak or origin: the Spanish flu of 1918 or the Hong Kong flu of 1968. The word "influenza" is derived from the Latin influentia, to influence.


What is interesting too......... is that labs began to work with the 1918 flu... mixing it with the latest................. WHY? Why mess with something - reactivating it?

link: www.mindfully.org...

The brouhaha erupted after Kawaoka's team at the University of Wisconsin and the University of Tokyo reported in the 7 October issue of Nature that a normal human flu virus containing a gene for a coat protein from the 1918 flu strain is highly pathogenic to mice. An article in the New York Times noted that although the team began the studies in a stringent biosafety level 4 (BSL-4) lab in Canada, where workers wear "space suits," the University of Wisconsin's safety board approved moving the work to its own BSL-3 lab.

That set off alarm bells with some biosafety experts, including Karl M. Johnson, a former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) virologist now retired in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He and several others wrote to Promed, an Internet e-mail forum widely read in the infectious-disease community, arguing that the move to a BSL-3 was dangerous.

Johnson is partly assuaged. "I feel a bit better," he says, adding that BSL-3+ may be adequate for some experiments with engineered 1918 flu. But he still has reservations about, for instance, whether the vaccine would fully protect some individuals.

Other critics on Promed, however, such as Ronald Voorhees of the New Mexico Department of Health, argue that antiviral drugs may not eliminate the risk of a worker passing the virus to someone outside the lab, so a BSL-4 facility is needed. Biosafety expert Emmett Barkley of Howard Hughes Medical Institute suggests that if experts were polled, "half of them would call for [BSL-4]."

Part of the confusion stems from another set of federal guidelines, Biosafety in Biomedical and Microbiological Laboratories (BMBL). This manual says that flu viruses require only BSL-2 facilities, and there is no mention of 1918 flu or "enhanced" BSL-3, Johnson notes. The issue is important to resolve, as Kawaoka's is not the only group working on 1918-like flu viruses. A group led by Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York City is doing so in a BSL-3+ facility at the CDC, and the University of Washington plans to study monkeys infected with modified 1918 flu strains in a BSL-3+ lab.

Even more controversial are planned experiments that would mix pathogenic avian flu strains, such as the H5N1 strain now circulating in Asia, with human flu viruses (Science, 30 July, p. 594). CDC scientists have opted for BSL-3+, but flu expert Robert Webster of St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis, Tennessee, says he would do these studies in a BSL-4 facility.


Why do scientist do this? To create a "super human killing" strain - that Nothing can defeat?

One year after that article of concern in 2004 - Guess what?

Now comes an article from 2005

link to article:
www.nature.com...

Special Report The 1918 flu virus is resurrected
Top of pageAbstractThe recreation of one of the deadliest diseases known could help us to prevent another pandemic.
Or it might trigger one, say critics. Andreas von Bubnoff investigates whether the benefits outweigh the risks.

It is thought to have killed 50 million people, and yet scientists have brought it back to life. In this issue of Nature, scientists publish an analysis of the full genome sequence of the 1918 human influenza virus.


NOW - those who DID NOT get vaccinated in 1918 - were NOT ones who died............ those who DID get vaccinated - DID DIE!!

FOLLOW THE DOTS - Look at HISTORY!!!!!!!

WHY did the reactivate a virus/flu that KILLED 50 Million People?

WHY - ONLY one reason I can think of.................................... more than 50 million - this time?

Here is another article about the REVIVING of the 1918 Flu Strain

link to article: www.madison.com...

Kawaoka said the goal was to find out why the 1918 flu virus, known as the Spanish flu, was so deadly, killing up to 50 million people. Many of those who died were young adults who developed pneumonia from infections that penetrated deep into their lungs, something regular flu viruses normally don't do.

In 2004, Kawaoka identified a gene that enables the 1918 virus to latch on to cells in mice, but that wasn't enough to explain the germ's deadly power.

In the new study, he mixed a regular flu virus with the 1918 virus, gene by gene, testing the combinations in ferrets, which have responses to flu that mimic those in humans. One of the resulting viruses, containing a three-gene sequence that produces a virus-replication protein, infected the lower respiratory tracts of the animals, like the 1918 virus did in humans.
Kawaoka and other scientists, including Palese, previously reconstructed the 1918 virus from tissue samples extracted from victims of the flu, whose bodies were preserved in Alaska in the permafrost. They used a technique Kawaoka helped develop, called reverse genetics, that has also proven useful in searching for better flu vaccines.

Joining Kawaoka in the new research was lead author Tokiko Watanabe of UW-Madison; Shinji Watanabe, Jin Hyun Kim and Masato Hatta, also of UW-Madison; and Kyoko Shinya of Kobe University.

A bird flu virus known as H5N1 gained significant attention worldwide in 2005 and 2006 because of the threat of it causing a potential pandemic. Though fewer human cases have been reported recently, the virus continues to circulate.


So they PURPOSELY Create - A NEW STRAIN - For Research Reasons??

YEAH RIGHT!!!! I am NO FOOL - Nor are others!!

Please let people know - NEVER GET A FLU SHOT!!


reply posted on 8-3-2009 @ 10:27 AM by ReelView
Sometime ago I posted a thread on the likelihood that "Viruses" don't really even exist. It appears that "virus" was fabricated for a class of unknown illnesses or perhaps man created diseases making it seem as if it is a natural occurrence and that man then comes to the rescue with "cures". www.neue-medizin.com...

There may be a relationship with the work of Dr. Kikuo Chishima whose research led him to believe the body creates cells including germs on the basis of the vibrational energy of the body. In other words "as you think, so your body is going to be composed". Perhaps what "flu shots" do is inject frequencies into the body that trigger it to produce destructive microbes.

www.soulsofdistortion.nl...


reply posted on 8-3-2009 @ 10:38 AM by Anonymous ATS
Info on Bird flu and Spanish flu
www.indymedia.org.uk...

Bird flu articles
www.newstin.com...

Here's another way they might get rid of us:
A new world order would be virtually impossible in the kind of world that we live in at present. There are over six billion people with such diverse beliefs and customs, too many dissenters and and too many power seekers.

Remember Chernobyl? en.wikipedia.org...
Taking into consideration global wind patterns, the NWO have probably calculated how much nuclear material and toxic gases would need to be released to kill off most humans on the planet. They already have the data from the aftermath of Chernobyl to work with.

Belarus suffered from approximately 70 per cent of the fallout from the Chernobyl catastrophe. There are higher rates of morbidity in Belarus than anywhere else affected by the Chernobyl catastrophe. And the elevated cancer rates in Belarus are 16 times higher than in those countries not affected by Chernobyl.

Questions:

(1) Are the high rates of morbidity and elevated cancer in Belarus only applicable to people who were living in Belarus during the fallout? or who moved to Belarus not long after the catastrophe, say 1986-1990?

(2) Has research been undertaken on animals and/or humans every few years since the Chernobyl disaster (1986) to try and determine when it would be safe to introduce humans and/or animals into a location that has experienced heavy fallout without those animals and/or humans experiencing harmful ailments/defects/side effects or fatalities ?

(3) I live in the UK and have never been to Belarus. If I were able to live and work in Belarus this year (2009), am I very likely to be harmfully or fatally affected by the remnants of nuclear fallout from the Chernobyl disaster of 1986 (22 years ago)? Or has the residue from nuclear fallout now dropped to a level that is considered safe to human health?

Data collected about nuclear fallout, from locations such as Belarus, would give governments/NWO an indication as to whether or not a deliberately planned global nuclear catastrophe was a realistic option for reducing the world human population and how long survivors would be required to live in underground camps/cities before reinhabiting above ground areas that had experience heavy nuclear fallout.

Carbohydrates, protein, fats and vitamins could be stored in packets/containers for survivors underground. Above ground, radiation would contaminate almost everything that humans would have hoped to survive on. Radiation would be in the air, getting into every nook and cranny and destroying harmful pathogens such as HIV/AIDS and MRSA. What a way to deal with most of the world's problems at once!

People living underground could probably be fed for decades using methods such as this www.factoryfarming.org.uk...
Slaughtered battery hens can be processed into soups, baby foods, stock cubes etc. Battery hens are bred to be lean, to eat little and lay a lot.

Wind farms and other forms of renewable energy, could possibly provide the electricity for those in underground camps/cities. Water from the sea could be desalinated.

If most life were wiped out by a nuclear catastrophe, geneticists among the survivors, in underground camps/cities, could breed organisms such as blow flies that would be released at numerous locations and multiply as they fed on carcasses. Genetic engineering could also possibly increase the species/number of plants, mammals, insects etc so as to replenish the earth once it was safe to do so.

When the human survivors came above ground to live, the released blow flies and other organisns, would have left them with more manageable skeletons to clear up.


reply posted on 8-3-2009 @ 11:43 AM by elfie
I tend to agree with Antar. No vaccines for influenza were available in 1918.


lhncbc.nlm.nih.gov...



Influenza Vaccine: Influenza vaccine was first introduced as a licensed product in the United States in 1944. Because of the rapid mutation of the virus, the effectiveness of a given vaccine lasts only a year or two. Each year researchers must investigate and, to some degree, anticipate changes in the virus in order to produce a vaccine that will be effective against a given strain. In most years, the mutation which occurs does not produce a strain which is drastically different from the strains in previous years. Occasionally, however, major changes occur in the configuration of the virus, requiring significant modifications in the vaccine. Significant changes occurred, for example, in the 1957 Asian Flu and the 1968 Hong Kong Flu.


add: 50 million people were not vaccinated in 1918. The vaccine did not exist.

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