Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown , page 2
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reply posted on 8-3-2009 @ 12:07 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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Do you hold yourself to the standards you hold him to or does any of you? Do you expect yourself to be a unfatigable superman? Most likely not. There is a word for that. Begins with an H.


reply posted on 8-3-2009 @ 12:07 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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Especially when they apparently want to be annoyed by him.



reply posted on 8-3-2009 @ 12:14 PM by Iamonlyhuman
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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Do you hold yourself to the standards you hold him to or does any of you? Do you expect yourself to be a unfatigable superman? Most likely not. There is a word for that. Begins with an H.


So you're saying that one has to be a superman to be president? I don't think you have to be superman, I think you have to be a good executive - one that hires the right people to do most of the work for you so you can concentrate on other aspects of your job that ALSO need to be done.


reply posted on 8-3-2009 @ 12:20 PM by Foppezao
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I ment Geert Wilders, who now has the biggest party in our parliament in the polls..He was refused entry into the UK because of his opinion about the Islam and Koran [movie fitna]..
Brown is already compared here with Chamberlain in the 30's..


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reply posted on 8-3-2009 @ 12:21 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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Delegated responsibility is all well and good but there is a great deal that calls only for the president and only the president can do. And just as your offended that he tired himself out speaking to others and thusly had to pass on speaking to this one you most likely would have been offended vice versa. Considering our futures depend on one man reversing the momentum gained by one man over the course of eight years of mismanagement.

Then there is the argument of "If you want something done right, do it yourself.".

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reply posted on 8-3-2009 @ 12:35 PM by Iamonlyhuman
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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Delegated responsibility is all well and good but there is a great deal that calls only for the president and only the president can do.


I agree and this was one of them (the actual meeting with Brown).. he didn't do it well though and his people didn't prepare him well either (the gift selection). They obviously didn't even care (as illustrated in the staffer's comments to the reporter). Employees only care about something if it's important to their boss.

And just as your offended that he tired himself out speaking to others and thusly had to pass on speaking to this one you most likely would have been offended vice versa.


Why didn't his staffers reschedule it? If it was important to them that the president make a good showing and they knew he was tired, then why didn't they reschedule? It wasn't important to him.

Considering our futures depend on one man reversing the momentum gained by one man over the course of eight years of mismanagement.


They also depend on one man maintaining momentum gained from the good things.

Then there is the argument of "If you want something done right, do it yourself."


Or hire good people to do them.



reply posted on 8-3-2009 @ 03:25 PM by octotom
I initially thought, "Yeah! That'll show 'em!" But then I sat back and said, "D'oh!"

Think about it. The UK is our closest and most reliable ally. Obama wants to up the troop numbers in Afghanistan in order to defeat the insurgence. Since Obama is big into interacting with other countries--not doing things unilaterally. This leads me to think that he will go to the UK in the near future and ask them to up the troop numbers in Afghanistan. A mess up like this could very well make the British say, "eh....nah. Oh! Here's a good DVD I saw this weekend!"

It's good that Obama is trying to focus on America, but as other posts have eluded to, the president often has to juggle multiple things at once. Could you imagine what would've happened if Regan had said to the Russians, "now just stop it with those missles guys! Wait a week or two, I'm fightin' inflation here!" A case could be made that his meeting with PM Brown was a domestic meeting as well, since both Obama and Brown advocate solving this economic crisis in a global fashion. They both had said that their meetings were about how the two nations could come together and solve the crisis together. I remember hearing about his meeting a month ago. So, as others had said, they really could've put something "nicer" together.

If the Obama administration is tired now, Lord help us! What's gonna happen if Israel and Iran go at it? What if Russia goes into the Ukraine? He'll be really tired then.

Someone mentioned Bush taking three years worth of vacation--you do realize that the president never really gets vacay time like your or I do right? Presidents have working vacations. They never can stop dealing with the needs of the free world.
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