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reply posted on 7-3-2009 @ 02:56 PM by madhatr137
Originally posted by neo67
i say agian when liberals throw military recruiters of college campuses if you have a negative viewpoint of what this guy did you have no ground to stand on.


Apples to oranges.

I think that the people who are looking at this situation with the firearms instructor are commenting on the illogic of his action, as something that runs in opposition to financial logic...however, as has been admitted multiple times, it is his prerogative to teach whoever he chooses, as much as an insufferable douchebag it may make him appear to be. Still, he is, in a sense, running a private business that people are paying HIM for.

On the other hand, military recruitment in schools is a completely different issue. First of all, many colleges and universities that such recruitment happens at are public institutions, therefore, the universities and colleges have a responsibility, to an extent, to observe the wishes of the public at large...secondly, and I think more importantly, it is not the mere presence of the recruiters in colleges that is objectable, but rather the predatory practices undergone during the recruitment procedure, the offering of deceptive incentives to naive youths, etc.

In one situation, it is the simple and private transfer of funds for knowledge. The other is a far more complex creation of contractual obligation.

That being said, I, as a moderate left-leaning individual, for one don't have a "major" objection to recruitment in universities...

...BTW...funny people are always telling liberals what their opinions are...


reply posted on 7-3-2009 @ 03:54 PM by madhatr137
reply to post by neo67


Oh yes, saying that the individual in question may, or may not, appear to be an insufferable douchebag certainly invalidates anything else that may be said.

Its not a personal attack on him, it is an attack on his actions. It is a questioned observation of his action, which was the attack of others for their political persuasion. How is it that all my opinions, even if they have nothing to do with him, can be invalidated by a minor attack on his attack on others for their opinions, which differed than his, and yet his opinions can remain valid?

And to return to the issue of military recruitment in colleges....it is still a completely different issue because an individual goes to a firearms instructor to receive firearms training...an individual does not go to university to be recruited by the military, they go to a military recruitment office.


reply posted on 7-3-2009 @ 04:52 PM by madhatr137
reply to post by neo67


liberals are elitists plain and simple.


Oh yes, not to seem trite, but according to your own statements, your own opinion must be invalidated because the above statement, yours, is an attack on liberals, many of which you do not know...to say that "liberals are elitists plain and simple" is something that is neither plain nor simple...it is an opinion that, in the context of your statements, is designed to alienate them, liberals, from the rest of society, to which it can be construed that you probably consider yourself a part of...none the less, contextually, it is obviously meant as an insult.

So, you are falling into the exact trap that I have fallen into...insulting people who you do not know...therefore your opinion must be as wrong as mine...the only difference is that while I have insulted only one person in this thread, you have insulted tens of millions.

Anyway, I'm going to stop this because I'm distracting from the thread...sorry for that, everyone.

To tie it all together, I think the point here is that hypocrisy runs rampant on both sides of the political aisle and that part of the problem is that all the actors are playing from different scripts with different understandings of the depth of the words written.
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