Creationists did you know we are all in a conspiracy? Funny.

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
Over the past year, with the evangelically charged U.S. election, the creationism movement has gained new momentum along with an increase in posts here on ATS. From a purely objective standpoint, the issue of an organized group seeking to diminish or replace a widely accepted scientific topic with one of pure philosophy and faith fits the description of a "conspiracy".

I'm a Creationist. Yet, I believe in Evolution. Do we see evolution all around us. I believe so. I believe that since we were put on a planet with a finite number of resources. God made us so we (us and the animals) could slightly evolve to deal with these changes. ie; climate change, global warming, loss of natural habitat, O Zone depletion, etc.

Now you know why I believe in Evolution, but I don't believe in the Theory of Evolution. Do my views sound so outlandish?

I can't say Creationism or ID is a fact. NO WAY! Of course I can't. I believe it to be a fact. I could never tell someone it's a fact though. That would be forcing my belief on someone.

Remember, you can't tell me with Science what the Origin of Life is, my belief in ID sounds more reasonable on this subject than Science's, sorry.

CREATIONISTS: I'd like to hear your views on HOW WE WERE CREATED.

Thanks!


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Remember, you can't tell me with Science what the Origin of Life is, my belief in ID sounds more reasonable on this subject than Science's, sorry.

I don't know that there is no god, but my observations have led me to believe that there probably isn't. I suppose you could call me an atheist with a twist of agnosticism. Anyways my question goes: How is ID more reasonable than UD? Have you studied the holy scriptures of pastafarianism? The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster tells us that we're the result of unintelligent design. Our creator was drunk (unintelligent) when he created us. I think it's far more reasonable an explanation than ID.

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This makes sense,so because Science doesnt know the exact origins of life we jump to the most outlandish ideas based on 100% imagination to fill the gap instead of thinking rationally...that sounds familiar.

After all I would find a reality in which everything was completely mapped out by me abysmally boring. I would set the conditions along certain lines *certain desired lines, IE life forming* and let the chips fall were they may.

Originally posted by Solomons
This makes sense,so because Science doesnt know the exact origins of life we jump to the most outlandish ideas based on 100% imagination to fill the gap instead of thinking rationally...that sounds familiar.

You'll never understand faith.

I won't try to make you. I'm irrational remember?

Get off the free will vs. determinism argument, please. Free will always seems to win, in the end, even though I'm a hard-determinist.

Some creationists believe that human beings were engineered by aliens, and that all life has been stewarded into existence by "transdimensional" beings, who live beyond the reach of this "time-frame".

Ancient Sumerian texts tell the story that seems to be the best evidence to support this claim.

We will see the return of Nemesis and Nibiru in our life-times.

O-315

theres nothing wrong with free will not existing. Im also afraid that the theory of evolution may be right. I have not seen any evidence that magic or mistical things occur... i see many peopl who believe in this crap and constantly rationalize why it didnt work or how it worked in the way they didnt expect.

According to our past i would indeed believe we were created. Although it was probobly alien geneticaly engineering life on the planet to form a planet dominating intelligence. This doesnt mean the aliens themselves didnt go through evolution. It may be easier to evolve as a life form based on silicon of some other element. Then when that life form evolves it eventualy creates life itself. That would be us.

Originally posted by Wertdagf
theres nothing wrong with free will not existing. Im also afraid that the theory of evolution may be right. I have not seen any evidence that magic or mistical things occur... i see many peopl who believe in this crap and constantly rationalize why it didnt work or how it worked in the way they didnt expect.

According to our past i would indeed believe we were created. Although it was probobly alien geneticaly engineering life on the planet to form a planet dominating intelligence. This doesnt mean the aliens themselves didnt go through evolution. It may be easier to evolve as a life form based on silicon of some other element. Then when that life form evolves it eventualy creates life itself. That would be us.

Evolution and Origin of Life (Abiogenesis) are 2 completely different fields of scientific study. Even though they would seem logically connected.

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[edit on 7-3-2009 by Watcher-In-The-Shadows]

Free Will is a Verifiable Observation. Or a fact if you prefer.

Why do we have it, period.

Whoa, really? Who got the Nobel prize for it? How did they prove the existence of free will?

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