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Originally posted by elfie
Originally posted by amari
Name me one person that does not recieve health care in this country just one. Haven't you helped to elect the leftwinged nuts that have moved us into socialism....
In all fairness it was Treasury Secretary Paulson who was on his knees begging for the TARP bailout as has already been pointed out in this thread.
We've had a socialized educational system for nearly a century.
A system based on medical decisions being determined not by doctors and their patients, but by insurance companies out to make a profit by systematically denying healthcare benefits to those in need is a devolved approach bordering on criminality.
[edit on 9-3-2009 by elfie]
Originally posted by sos37 What we have here in America isn't perfect, but it's the best health care in the world.
Just my opinion, and an expression of my frustration with how this type of thread always turns into arguing about who the "bad guys" are instead of considering possible solutions.
Originally posted by amari
What is wrong with making a profit that is capitalism and free enterprise and you don't think when the government gets a hold of your health care that they will not be denying and screening out who gets health care or not and not to mention the waiting lists to be treated.
That is exactly what is wrong with our educational system socialized education contributing to the dumbing down of America. Again government sticking their nose where they do not need to be envolved and regulating and brain washing our young children that government taking care of them is the only way instead of them being taught to do for themselves.
My father "65" recently went to the Social Security office to apply for his "earned" Social Security benefits. During the two hours waiting in a packed office, he saw only one person close to his age. Everyone else was younger and the vast majority were able bodied.
Originally posted by pikypiky
In my opinion, healthcare, like driving a car, is a ‘privilege’. The only real choice a person has is the right to live. And in order to prolong a decaying body, a ‘citizen’ should be able to obtain some sort of healthcare, affordable or not.
Whether the government has the right of ‘cap’ on fast and effective treatment is something to consider in light of how socializing healthcare system didn’t work for the Canadians.
Those who can afford medical treatment should have access to any new science and technology available in a free market system.
For those who don’t have the means, that’s where the ‘nationalization’ could play an important part in leaving no-one behind.
So, why not both? Those who want to keep their private healthcare plan, and for those who don't have any, give them a national health care plan.
It's simple really this country has turned into a bunch of lazy SOBs with their hand out wanting everything laid in their lap. I wish we had a leader that would stand up at tell the nation to get off its ass and take care of themselves just like our grandparents did through the depression.
This nation will collapse at this rate and I can only rejoice in knowing that only the strong will rise up and see it through the hard times. The lazy bastards will be weeded out within months and we won't have to worry about everyone screaming they have a right to do nothing and have others support them.
Do we really want to elect a Communist?
Barack Obama was born of Communist activists, mentored by a communist writer and activist, spent his college days hanging around radical activists, worked as a radical community organizer learning the radical tactics of Alinsky, kept contact with radicals through the years, attends a radical church, and today lends his political skill to the international goals of radical activists, and has radicals working on for his campaign
Originally posted by wolf241e
Jeeze..talk about a GOP blunder.
What in the hell was this guy thinking???
I see his side of the discussion but come on man..
I think that he deserved the ass kicking that he got from the anchor who was doing the interview. I'm usually on that side of the conservatives but not this time. Learn how to speak man!! Or at least tone down your rhetoric a bit.
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