Don't let them tell you that "The Theory of Evolution" is a fact., page 5
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reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 07:34 AM by B.A.C.
Originally posted by JPhish
reply to post by noobfun


hmm i think you're overlooking the purpose of this thread Nfun. Check out my last post. I might be wrong and BAC can let me know if i am. But i think i've elucidated his concerns.


You are absolutely right. Thanks.


reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 08:01 AM by Daniem
reply to post by B.A.C.


Why dont you just say "The fact of evolution is a not a theory"?? Because its an idiotic unneccasary thing to say. If i wanna be difficult like you, then i could ask which of the theories you are reffering to? And what evolution are you talking about.. biological?

Brainwashed? By? Every book made on the subject? By all the teachers and scientists? I suppose i brainwashed myself to believe in this stuff. And since most people believe in this, then they are brainwashed too. My, my, my..You need help my friend. Or no, forgive me.. WE need help. You're the only normal, smart person out there.

How bout you get serious, as ive seen your posts here on ATS lately, and i imagine you're sitting there laughing, from all the stuff you make up.

Your the perfect of example of those type of people that say:
war is peace
no YOU'VE been brainwashed
you cant prove it doesnt exist.. so its logical to believe it DOES exist
etc

THAT IS THE CONSPIRACY. People living in BACKWARDS LAND. The way they think is staggeringly ignorant. Looking forward to your next contribution to this site.. im sure it'll be fantastic.

Let this be the end of this thread



reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 08:03 AM by Welfhard
reply to post by B.A.C.


I think you should have made it clear that although you state the theory is not a fact, you are not insinuating that evolution doesn't exist.

But you are right because a fact is effectively a specific occurrence and a theory is an explanation of a phenomena.

You stated in you op that evolution, the phenomena, is a fact. You for some reason feel that to believe the theory of evolution, however, you must relinquish your faith. Why? The theory puts no stakes in the non-existence of God so why should you feel that belief in the theory is mutually exclusive to faith in God?
Keeping in mind that faith is defined by belief without evidence, yet there is plenty of evidence for the theory, believing in it would not be the same as having faith in it.


reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 08:09 AM by B.A.C.
Originally posted by Daniem
reply to post by B.A.C.


Why dont you just say "The fact of evolution is a not a theory"?? Because its an idiotic unneccasary thing to say. If i wanna be difficult like you, then i could ask which of the theories you are reffering to? And what evolution are you talking about.. biological?

Brainwashed? By? Every book made on the subject? By all the teachers and scientists? I suppose i brainwashed myself to believe in this stuff. And since most people believe in this, then they are brainwashed too. My, my, my..You need help my friend. Or no, forgive me.. WE need help. You're the only normal, smart person out there.

How bout you get serious, as ive seen your posts here on ATS lately, and i imagine you're sitting there laughing, from all the stuff you make up.

Your the perfect of example of those type of people that say:
war is peace
no YOU'VE been brainwashed
you cant prove it doesnt exist.. so its logical to believe it DOES exist
etc

THAT IS THE CONSPIRACY. People living in BACKWARDS LAND. The way they think is staggeringly ignorant. Looking forward to your next contribution to this site.. im sure it'll be fantastic.

Let this be the end of this thread


Have I offended you in some way?

I've proved The Theory of Evolution is not a fact. Whether you like that truth or not.

It's all about semantics. ALL about semantics. Evolutionists claim that The Theory of Evolution is fact.

I submit the first 35 pages of this thread as evidence: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Dangerous stuff to start calling theories, facts.

How about we call it what it is? Ever think of that?

deny ignorance




[edit on 6-3-2009 by B.A.C.]


reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 08:19 AM by alkali
reply to post by B.A.C.


So this entire thread is over semantics because people say a theory is a fact when you know well that they're referring to evolution being a fact and not the theory? Are you kidding?

Yes, a theory is not a fact. Theories explain facts. No one disputes that. The dispute is whether evolution is or is not occurs. If that's all this thread was over it should be removed.

No one cares about the semantics, they care about the meaning of what they're trying to say. If you know the point they're making don't try to say they're wrong. You know what they're trying to say.

We know a theory is not a fact. That doesn't make sense. You're right. There is no conspiracy.





reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 08:22 AM by B.A.C.
reply to post by alkali


Read the post you quoted. It explains it so simply.

I have no problem with The Theory of Evolution. All of the facts within the theory may very well be correct.

But a Theory isn't a fact. A Theory explains facts.

It's very simple, and proven by science's own definition of both "Theory" and "Fact".

Theory = explains facts.
Facts = verifiable observations.

The conspiracy part comes in when it takes 5 pages of a thread for ONE person to admit this. I say science and evolutionist have brainwashed people into thinking The Theory of Evolution is a fact.

You're still asking me to explain it. What page are we on now?


reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 08:30 AM by B.A.C.
Originally posted by alkali
reply to post by B.A.C.


So this entire thread is over semantics because people say a theory is a fact when you know well that they're referring to evolution being a fact and not the theory? Are you kidding?

Yes, a theory is not a fact. Theories explain facts. No one disputes that. The dispute is whether evolution is or is not occurs. If that's all this thread was over it should be removed.

No one cares about the semantics, they care about the meaning of what they're trying to say. If you know the point they're making don't try to say they're wrong. You know what they're trying to say.

We know a theory is not a fact. That doesn't make sense. You're right. There is no conspiracy.



No one cares about semantics? Maybe you don't, but I do.

If I accept the idea that you can say "The Theory of Evolution is a fact", and don't complain about it, I won't be able to argue ANY other view that doesn't go along with that. Is that what science is about?

So I say The Theory of Evolution is not a fact. I proved it.

The fact you say it's a fact or would even argue over such a basic true statement proves you've been brainwashed.


reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 08:34 AM by alkali
reply to post by B.A.C.


I think it takes 5 pages for someone to admit it because they're expecting you to present a conspiracy, something a bit more complicated than semantics. People read into what you say and over complicate it because they expect something complicated. They don't expect arguments on how to properly say things. This isn't a conspiracy. We know a theory is a not a fact. When someone says, "the theory of evolution is a fact" you know what they mean, they just didn't say it correctly. You know they mean evolution is a fact, that evolution occurs.

You're being difficult on purpose. Stop.

As you know from the u2u, I'm a Christian. How could you ever expect to win someone to Christ by being so hard to get a long with? I'd hate to be on the receiving end of your attempt to witness.


reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 08:46 AM by B.A.C.
Originally posted by alkali
reply to post by B.A.C.


I think it takes 5 pages for someone to admit it because they're expecting you to present a conspiracy, something a bit more complicated than semantics. People read into what you say and over complicate it because they expect something complicated. They don't expect arguments on how to properly say things. This isn't a conspiracy. We know a theory is a not a fact. When someone says, "the theory of evolution is a fact" you know what they mean, they just didn't say it correctly. You know they mean evolution is a fact, that evolution occurs.

You're being difficult on purpose. Stop.

As you know from the u2u, I'm a Christian. How could you ever expect to win someone to Christ by being so hard to get a long with? I'd hate to be on the receiving end of your attempt to witness.


No, it's the main argument used by Evolutionists. There are 35 pages of it in another thread in this section as proof.

This one little statement "The Theory of Evolution is a fact" will STOP someone from believing anything else. I'm not talking just belief in God, I'm talking about belief in other scientists as well. It isn't true. I can and have proved it. That's why it's VERY important to be perfectly clear.

The Theory of Evolution is not a fact. I proved it. That's all. It's TRUTH.

Sorry if it makes you uncomfortable, that's not my wish.
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