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Will ex-military 'Patriots' form a more dangerous kind of militias? (Video)

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posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 08:51 AM
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U know what i hope ? yea i used to be in the armed forces i hope that the right people get ahold of this video and i will do what ever it takes to make sure that that happens that the wack job behing the mask is arrested and thrown in the brig for the rest of his life and branded a traitor and a threat to all we hold dear there are ways other than inciting a revolution to get your point across i have turned this video into my former commander and it is being reviewed with facial reconition software to find out who it is and where he is located for arrest!




posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 08:56 AM
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I know that everyone seems to take this information and see what they want, talking about our good old boys and all, but did anyone notice a disturbing trend in that rant that started the OP?

Although I was making Ayn Rand references months ago during the campaign rhetoric, the recent thread on the topic may have jogged everyone's memory...

Remember in Atlas Shrugged?
Remember when they went after the voices on the other side?

This rant targets Fox, talk radio, and other outlets as being the cause of a rascist usurption? What about all the left wing attacks on Bush the entire time? Almost everyone was saying how we should revolt due to the fact that Bush and Cheney were these evil goons set out on taking our civil liberties...

But No, right now we are talking about their Messiah, and there is no way that they will allow there socialist agenda to go down without a fight.

I mean, they have their hands all over your junk now, and they are not letting go!

So just remember when they come take all of us, you know who you are people, that all it takes is for YOU to be labeled the enemy before someone is willing to take you down.

Chaos
Breeds
Fear
And
Compliance.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 08:58 AM
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I hope that Marine is reading this thread, and he thanks you personally for ratting him out, and then bragging about it.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 09:00 AM
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I see all over the place everyone talking about what they would do if SHTF.
This would not get anything done but all the worst case scenarios that get
posted.

Everything that gets talked about, with the exception of eyeofeagle's past
posts, is reactive. The only way to get it done is proactive.

I would be willing to bet, with a simple plan that the PTB would have our
economic problems fixed inside 2 months if it was out in the open and
staring them in the face.

Let give you a possible scenario. What would your reaction be if;
you were driving down a busy road and in an open area, or parking lot
there was a military style formation marching around?
These started poping up in city's all over the nation inside of a month.

No loud advertisements, no banners except an movement name you could
look up. Non-violent, but well informed, and prepared.

What if they had a look to them, that you knew it was not your military?

If the elite knows your coming, it's in the open, what are they going to do?
Lock up 100k plus for terroism? Send troops and Kill everyone?

No, they are under the misguided illusion that they can have the same
response as the Great Depression that they created. This would be almost
impossible, as people have the advantage today of information that they did
not have back then.

Today, you can know what is going on in a matter of seconds or minutes.
Back then, it might have been weeks or months before word would get
around about something. It gave them plenty of time to play the game.

[edit on 6-3-2009 by j2000]



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by semperfi221
U know what i hope ? yea i used to be in the armed forces i hope that the right people get ahold of this video and i will do what ever it takes to make sure that that happens that the wack job behing the mask is arrested and thrown in the brig for the rest of his life and branded a traitor and a threat to all we hold dear there are ways other than inciting a revolution to get your point across i have turned this video into my former commander and it is being reviewed with facial reconition software to find out who it is and where he is located for arrest!


Well in the process, hand my IP over to your former commander as well.

Everything he is saying is spot on, either you don't know anything about the Constitution you (like I) swore to uphold, or you don't think it means anything..

Think really really hard about what you are saying.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 09:10 AM
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Being a vet I can say, you are a part of what people are fearing.
You would rather kill American Patriots instead of possibly
having dis-honor to the corp's.

You, should not consider yourself a patriot at all, to do so would be a violation against our very country.

Your actions can turn away the sound of the freedom bell ringing. These troops are doing what they are suppose to do. Defend the Constitution.

Just in case you didn't notice, when you gave your oath, the part about defending the Constitution is before the part of taking orders. You sir, are a danger to the very freedoms that we still have left.

Just to add, why don't you go back to your UFO threads. With all the threads in the last six months to speak up on, you have not spoken.

Now you come on here and tell us what a traitor you really are. I really doubt by your posts, that you ever served.




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posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 09:26 AM
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Again, you "patriots" claim to "defend" the Constiution but you know NOTHING about it.

That wacko in the video mentions militia in the Constiution. Does he realize that "militia" refers to the military, not some private militia? Does he realize that the standing military that he is wearing the uniform of in the video is an outgrwoth of that militia? Looks like somebody needs to both read and study the Constitution.

And I'm hearing accusation of crimes that have not even been committed. Go ahead, raise your arms and start a war. We will defeat you. You are immoral and hypocritical.

That "Marine" was right about one thing - our worst enemies are not in some faraway land. They are on our own soil. They are the man seen in the video. They are the Timothy McVeighs and Eric Robert Rudolphs of this country.

EDIT: I own a gun. I speak freely and other freely object to what I say. I have not had my rights stripped in any way.

[edit on 6-3-2009 by sweatmonicaIdo]



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 09:41 AM
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You are so ill informed it's not even funny. You are an obvious govt. dis-info agent. You wouldn't know the Constitution if it was sitting on your head.
I would like to know who "we" are in your statement. It sure the hell is not the american people.

If you really believe the term Milita in the Constitution is about our Military, then you are really lost, and brainwashed with liberal education system.

It sounds like you are just really wanting to say "I love Obama" but just have not put the words out yet.

This has nothing to do with the changing of the guard. Get a clue.




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posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:00 AM
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SO let me get this straight. Your saying that your going against the poeple and the Constitution , by claiming that you will defeat the man in the video?

Forgive the obvious question but i dont understand you. He says he is against the government and for the people, yet your going to fight against him?

So who is the real threat here?



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:08 AM
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Originally posted by Armour For Victor
So who is the real threat here?


Those who spread falsehoods and fear about imagined threats, who spread false rhetoric, and those who are willing to use violence in order to shape society as they see fit.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo

Originally posted by Armour For Victor
So who is the real threat here?


Those who spread falsehoods and fear about imagined threats, who spread false rhetoric, and those who are willing to use violence in order to shape society as they see fit.


By your definition of the true threat...

That monster in D.C. amerikka Inc. seems to fit perfectly.

9/11, un-patriot act, anthrax, Iraq war, wmd's ring a bell?

[edit on 6-3-2009 by TaZCoN]



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo


That wacko in the video mentions militia in the Constiution. Does he realize that "militia" refers to the military, not some private militia? Does he realize that the standing military that he is wearing the uniform of in the video is an outgrwoth of that militia? Looks like somebody needs to both read and study the Constitution.

And I'm hearing accusation of crimes that have not even been committed. Go ahead, raise your arms and start a war. We will defeat you. You are immoral and hypocritical.

That "Marine" was right about one thing - our worst enemies are not in some faraway land. They are on our own soil. They are the man seen in the video. They are the Timothy McVeighs and Eric Robert Rudolphs of this country.

EDIT: I own a gun. I speak freely and other freely object to what I say. I have not had my rights stripped in any way.

[edit on 6-3-2009 by sweatmonicaIdo]


You are correct most people do not know what the Constiution much less how to spell it.

The Militia existed prior to the Army. So how can you say that it refers to a standing army? The Militias made up a large part of the Continental Army. Take the National Guard, they did not exist until 1933.

On an earlier post you asked where we were durning the last adminstration... we were here and there. Militia's tend to flux with America- sometimes they bolster great numbers and sometimes they do not. Its about Preception.

I am niether Immoral or hypocritical. The truth is I read the news daily, watch the markets tumble and listen to what others say. I am being Prepared. There are people out there that are like Timmy McVeigh and his kind. What about Randy Weaver? Set aside that he had beliefs that are not inline with mainstream America- yet he was railroaded by Agents and he refused, and his son, and wife were killed.

Waco anyone? Religious nuts? Child abusers? Who knows what the truth really is- since everyone that would really know died in the fire?

The new President's lack of experiance is showing through. Do I respect this man? Nope. Do I think he is doing a bad job so far? Yes and No. Economy=Yes... Mexican Trucker Program getting canceled=Good Job!

I still have hopes for the Commander and Chief- however, we will remain if we are needed-but we will not rush in an new era or Revolution.


A word of warning to those that are itiching to fight for freedom. Do you know what you are fighting for? Have you consdered that there is always another way? Have you considered that this is not the 13 colonies and limited population? That we have over 300 million souls in this country and that rash action is bad for everyone.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:22 AM
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Will they be more dangerous?
No.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo

Originally posted by Armour For Victor
So who is the real threat here?


Those who spread falsehoods and fear about imagined threats, who spread false rhetoric, and those who are willing to use violence in order to shape society as they see fit.



Whats the diffrence when politician's do the same thing? Sounds like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot...

Or maybe we are talking about the President's "Change?"

I do not smell much "Hope", but I see "Change" is in the air.

[edit on 6-3-2009 by ShadowMaster]



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:29 AM
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Why weren't we so ready to start a revolution when Bush was in office? If there was a time, it would be during that presidency. I wonder if McCain had won, would people be as up in arms and ready for battle? For some reason I don't think they would.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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Well arnt we all spreading ideas and conspiracy that can be considered false information?

I mean im only being honest but arnt you aswell spreading falsehoods and imagined threats, did you just not threating him,..."We will defeat you" I dont know about you but his little speach he made in his video didnt make me stand up and say your right! im gonna join your cause.

Isnt a threat a form of violence. Arnt you doing the exact thing he is doing except from the other side?

Peace!



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse


I have had to swallow the BS from a Staff sargeant boasting that civilians are nothing, and they deserve nothing. That they are lesser than the military, and do not deserve our protection... That civilians are scum....

I saw as several Marines nodded their heads,


Those that were nodding their heads have no family to mentally reference, I would imagine. If they do, they're detached from them to a point where they have little if no love for them.

I have many friends and family in the military and I can back up the OP. I've seen many serve out there enlistment and not re-up, like they had before. The reason they gave? They no longer believed in what the U.S. government was sending them to do. They had no faith in the military.

I'd say the majority of the men & women in the military know the difference between right and wrong when it comes to protecting American citizens.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 10:49 AM
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This is a prime example of what our Homeland Security Department has began to instill in our "first responders".

There's been a shortage of law enforcement recently because many of them have "moved-up" and joined HSD. They've been brainwashed into believing that Americans are their enemies. That anyone who uses the word Constitution or speaks negatively about our government is a potential "Domestic Threat". These are going to be the real enemy in the future.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 11:07 AM
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on waking people up, I my self have probly awakened 10-15 in the last 6 months. Good enough for me so far. Im gonna keep on working.


Von



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 11:08 AM
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What's with the mask ?



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