Will ex-military 'Patriots' form a more dangerous kind of militias? (Video), page 1

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Topic started on 5-3-2009 @ 10:25 PM by TrainDispatcher

*****Revolution Now! Anonymous American Patriot God Bless America!*****

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One of the more disturbing trends we've been observing is the return of far-right "Patriot" rhetoric about government oppression with the election of President Obama. Fueled in no small part by mainstream right-wing talkers proclaiming we're headed into "socialism" -- not to mention a "radical communist" who must be "stopped" or else America will "cease to exist" -- the overheated rhetoric has been gradually getting higher in volume, intensity, and frequency with each passing week. The initial concern that this raises is the possibility of a new wave of citizen militias, particularly when you have mainstream pundits like Glenn Beck out there helping to promote the concept. As Glenn Greenwald observed, the "Patriots" are back with a vengeance. At least for the time being, however, there isn't any evidence of new militias forming, though we may see numbers growing within the coming months within existing units, particularly as Fox News and radio pundits start fueling right-wing anxieties. However, we are starting to see a trend that's even more disturbing: Military veterans voicing Patriot-movement beliefs, including threats of violent resistance to the Obama administration.

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reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 10:28 PM by TrainDispatcher

A new revolution?

Commander in Chief, not only are your soldiers pi$$ed, they are ready...

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reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 10:31 PM by sir_chancealot

TPTB want ANY civil strife, just so long as it isn't the poor/middle-class against the VERY wealthy. (BTW, your neighbor down the street that is a millionaire isn't one of the "very wealthy")

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 10:48 PM by spec_ops_wannabe

It would be interesting to see how far this may go if the switch is flipped, so to speak.
The quote in it by JFK was a good one. To the extent of, if the ability of peaceful revolution is taken away then there is only the ability of violent revolution.

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 10:50 PM by Common Good

YEA!!!

Thats what Im talkin about.

Is it just me, or does anyone else get a [SNIP] from hearing someone speak about loyalty?
"we will not fight against the people". That right there should tell a lot of you that have never experienced the military, just how people in the military think. They arent against you, they are you!

Ooh Rah!

Mod Edit: Removed offensive word.

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reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:07 PM by Dbriefed

I'm ex-military, I love our country and took an oath to defend the constitution, I would join! Sign me up!

Of course, I left the military 20 years ago, and I still think I'm 20 years old. Maybe I'd just get in the way. I'll just type from my armchair...

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:11 PM by lightinthedark33

Star and Flagged!

Sign me up. You know things are happening when videos and threads like this start popping up. This is nolonger a theory. People are acting and reacting so it is a reality.

Wisdom is the key. Only those with enough Wisdom can really see what is happening.

The constitution is being broken. At work when things get f'd up, we all say we need to get back t basics are SOP.

Good post op. I just wish there was some way to communicate with the person in the video. I would love to pick his brain and learn more of what he knows.

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:14 PM by tiso_us

Good Video!!!

Lets not forget the Ex-military that can replace a service member if he should fall during a Revolution.

It's good to know the military's bringing up the rear or vis-versa.

Flagged.....

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reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:17 PM by Hastobemoretolife

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I think a lot of people don't understand that though. They all think that basic brainwashed all the troops into mindless morons, which is not the case.

I don't understand it really, I think people forget that when the military does exercises like I've seen here on ATS(I can't think of any at the moment) that when given the order they are going to come kick down your door.

They are worried about the wrong castle they need to be worried about the police and Feds, Not the military.

Other than that watching how the corp acted towards Obama at Camp Lejeune that should give people an indicator of how most of them feel about Obama.

I think people also forget that our troops live in other countries also and see what other governments are like.

I tell you it would be a dark day if the Military and citizens square off against the feds and cops.

I'll hedge my bets on the Military and citizens.

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:22 PM by Avarus

Ahh a terrorist!!

right?

Hey, the government told me he's a bad guy. He hates freedom, and hotdogs. I'm sposta be scared I think...

Then I'm going to buy stock and shop at walmart.

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:24 PM by ShadowMaster

As a member of the Patriot movement, I would have to say that I have seen and heard quite alot in the last two weeks then I have heard in the past two years. Obama has alot of these guys scared that their country is melting away. And that he will be coming in one way or another to take their guns away. I am a bit more level headed than some of the other guys out there and my little insigncent group is not all on that edge. Even within my group we have a fair mix of former combat soldiers and civilians, and I have seen a jump in military persons taking an interest. Usually (in the past since the 1990s) they do not join-for various reasons-but the climate has changed.

I agree, that America is not as strong as it once was and it appears to moving towards a Welfare State with all this Big Government. I also believe that there will be another kind of Assault Weapons Ban-it just will not quite the same as the last go around. Maybe an additional tax of some sort. I will keep myself prepared for whatever comes my way and the way of my guys, civil unrest, hurricane or ?

There however, the crowd that believes that there will be another 1773 style event, meaning that there will be a Protest and that either the police or whomever will open fire on US Citizens and it all starts again...

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:26 PM by TrainDispatcher

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Avarus, pretty good......why do we even listen anymore? Your right.... Obama told us to start investing the the stock market.... I will be right on that!!!!

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:28 PM by ShadowMaster

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See that is the other danger- if you act prematurely- you may get a big, fat "T" stamped on your forehead. Act too late and well you might as well stay home. Its better to be Prepared than not. People would say I am crazy or worse for stocking up- on the other hand I also (as the rest of us do) have regular life and pay our bills.

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:39 PM by Common Good

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When troops come out of boot,. they are brainwashed, but not in the sense that people think. When most of them come out of boot, all they want to do is fight. They have so much built up agression, and they need to let go of that agression, but by no means would they ever think of letting go of that aggression on their own people. They are taught to hate the enemy, and we are all aware of whom our enemies are. The American people have never been the enemy. The military makes these boyz not into men, but into supermen, killers if you will. We as a people need these supermen to protect the rest of us from the other 'evil' supermen.
There is nobody else on earth that could protect the people besides our military, they are our strongest allies in the fight against the govt. Our troops have had enough with their govt and feel 10000 times worse about all this more then the civilian people do since they are the ones fighting for it. I believe its these guys that need to start being vocal, but its hard when you have your 1st sgt telling you to STFU.

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:50 PM by Avalon22

Very well done!

It's good to know that it's not just the civilians that are feeling this way. You are a true soldier and Patriot. Thank you for properly knowing the constitution and serving to protect it.

My hats off!!

reply posted on 5-3-2009 @ 11:57 PM by Hastobemoretolife

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I complete agree. I should have went into more detail about the brainwashing, like they are not brainwashed to turn on the citizens. You explained it well. Though.

I know how Marines love to fight grew up around them. I won't say where I live but I would say in the event of revolution or civil war I'm right where I want to be. If we are invaded I'm not so sure I want to be where I'm at.

But the 1st Sgt. telling the troops to STFU has to go back to the brainwashing though, they want a fight, you said it yourself they are killers and I would imagine that most of them would rather solve the problem rather than fix it, if you catch my drift.

Either way tension is growing and it isn't good. It is just a matter of time before the top blows off the pressure cooker.

reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 12:08 AM by Common Good

yea I got what you meant about the brainwashing thing, just expanded on it a little.
Yea about that first sgt thing..They want to keep their troops in line. They dont like troops going in front of cameras yapping about certain things because it makes the military look bad. When I was in the military 10 years ago, they told us "dont go in front of a camera, if anyone is going to go in front of a camera, it will be someone with rank"
The troops look up to their commanders for guidance. They follow their orders because they respect where the orders are comming from.
Now when they have a commander in chief that they dont respect, its harder for them to feel comfortable following those orders and I can understand how they feel. Its hard to let someone lead you into trouble without knowing whether or not that person really has a full understanding of what they are really asking of their troops.

I hope I typed that out right. If not I appologize, Im just trying to express to people that our soldiers are on our side, and that they are looking out for our best interests. Not the people behind the desk stroking their pens for personal political interests.

reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 12:19 AM by Hastobemoretolife

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For sure most definitely. I read a quote from somewhere it was this site or somewhere else I saw it but, it went something like "There are only two people that understand Marines, Marines and the enemy." somewhere along those lines.

I think people also need to understand that our troops have a job to do, they can't turn down and opt out of training missions if they have families to provide for. I think a lot of people have forgotten that they are people with families also.

I can understand where the 1st Sgt. is coming from though. Do you think they feel the same way though?

reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 12:29 AM by spec_ops_wannabe

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I'd think he would since in all of likeliness he dealt with the $#!t of the Clinton administration. There are many I am sure regular and senior NCOs who share our sentiments. But of course it would be difficult for them to do so since they're in positions of leadership so therefore they would have more at risk to lose.
Sigh, don't you love complications in leadership?

reply posted on 6-3-2009 @ 12:33 AM by EYEOFEAGLE

You are to stand down!

There are men in the Shadows of the men in the shadows and we are watching them.

Eye of Eagle

Semper Fi!!!!!!!!!!

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