The Real Fema ...

What if we wake up one day and realize that the terrorist threat is a predictable consequence of our meddling in the affairs of others?
What if propping up repressive regimes in the Middle East endangers both the United States and Israel?
What if occupying countries like Iraq and Afghanistan – and bombing Pakistan – is directly related to the hatred directed toward us and has nothing to do with being free and prosperous?
What if someday it dawns on us that losing over 5,000 American military personnel in the Middle East since 9/11 is not a fair trade-off for the loss of nearly 3,000 American citizens, no matter how many Iraqi, Pakistani, and Afghan people are killed or displaced?
What if we finally decide that torture, even if called “enhanced interrogation techniques,” is self-destructive and produces no useful information – and that contracting it out to a third world nation is just as evil?
What if it is finally realized that war and military spending is always destructive to the economy?
What if all wartime spending is paid for through the deceitful and evil process of inflating and borrowing?
What if we finally see that wartime conditions always undermine personal liberty?
What if conservatives, who preach small government, wake up and realize that our interventionist foreign policy provides the greatest incentive to expand the government?
What if conservatives understood once again that their only logical position is to reject military intervention and managing an empire throughout the world?
What if the American people woke up and understood that the official reasons for going to war are almost always based on lies and promoted by war propaganda in order to serve special interests?
What if we as a nation came to realize that the quest for empire eventually destroys all great nations?
What if Obama has no intention of leaving Iraq?
What if a military draft is being planned for the wars that will spread if our foreign policy is not changed?
What if the American people learn the truth: that our foreign policy has nothing to do with national security and that it never changes from one administration to the next?
What if war and preparation for war is a racket serving the special interests?
What if President Obama is completely wrong about Afghanistan and it turns out worse than Iraq and Vietnam put together?
What if Christianity actually teaches peace and not preventive wars of aggression?
What if diplomacy is found to be superior to bombs and bribes in protecting America?
What happens if my concerns are completely unfounded – nothing! (exactly my point!!!)
What happens if my concerns are justified and ignored – nothing good!

Dr Ron Paul - Feb 2009

Please Understand.. what the defenders of this "Conspiracy" are trying to point out is that the camps are there and they are staffed and ready for use...A rather simple conclusion..Obviously they are not being used for Martial Law/Detainment Facilities as this time (and I dearly hope that they never will be used for that purpose) What we are trying to do is inform you that the Government that All of Us have trusted to defend our God given and Constitutional rights..Has underhandedly and nefariously been hard at work taking them (our Rights) away using the auspicious term of "Protecting (you, me, everyone on ATS) the world from Terror".....meanwhile lets take a look at what got us here to this point to begin with..
We have had three PLANNED but FAILED military coups in our government ...by members of our government... And as of the writing of this the Fourth is in place and ready to fall...
way way back in 1939 The first included FDR, according to my History books A true American Hero...well here is The Real FDR.......... An American Hero with the First Real Deal

March 4, 1939 - Quote from a report of the secret committee by President Roosevelt,;
"I am making no concessions to business, or for relief. I have a military machine sufficient to stop any organized revolt. I am putting MY OFFICE ahead of all instruments. I have had a full understanding with Chamberlain, and we will destroy this unemployed condition with a WAR, and a WAR only. To Hell with the American people, as far as a Democracy is concerned. It does not exist. It never did, and we will never let it happen that way. I am going to crush business, infest America with all the aliens possible, and in the last analysis, declare Martial Law, and confiscate everything I need for a true and forceful Dictatorship. My New Deal is a failure, and I know it, but no one else will tell me that I must discontinue my present activities, and program."
From the Secret Audience with the Military Appropriation Committee;
The Ways and Means Committee;
The Special War Finance Committee;
They iimmeadiately began Plans to take us into WWII....in 1939...The fact that FDR’s New Deal, his NRA, and other political policies and economic devices fit perfectly into the "Long Range Plans", of the TPTB helped to prove the continuity of the conspiracy. It has also been mentioned that Roosevelt was kept a virtual prisoner from after The Yalta Conference, (sometimes called the Crimea Conference and codenamed the Argonaut Conference, the wartime meeting from 4 February 1945 to 11 February 1945 among the heads of government of the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Soviet Union)— until his death presumably to prevent him from telling or confessing the truth or anything along those lines in the event his conscience might possibly be troubling him, seeing as he realized that he was about to meet his maker....Satan
They tried but fortunately Failed to accomplish their goals..
Second, In 1961, the CIA attempted to invade Cuba using US-trained and equipped Cubans. Code-named "Operation Zapata," two of the boats used in the invasion were named "Houston" and "Barbara." Operation Zapata was a failure and became known as the "Bay of Pigs" invasion. Much of the US intelligence community held then-President John F Kennedy responsible, as he refused to commit US air power to the invasion. The CIA's ties to the Italian Mafia are well-known, and go back to the Mob's assistance with the Allied invasion of Italy in World War II... Fidel Castro's 1959 revolution removed the Mafia (and their drug smuggling) out of Cuba. The Mafia complained to their buddies at the CIA.In 1952, Prescott Bush was elected to the US Senate. A year later, his son George H W Bush used money from the Nazi bankers (his Fathers Bank) Brown Brothers and Harriman to form Zapata Oil, a well known and proven front for the CIA. In 1961, Zapata's annual report boasted that the company had paid no taxes since it was founded. In 1981, SEC filings for Zapata Oil for 1960-66 were found to have been "inadvertently destroyed."....hmmm wonder if Papa Bush is Dirty or maybe He's just a good ol boy...(I'm not falling for it) Incredibly, George H W Bush claims to have forgotten where he was in Texas on the day of Kennedy's death. A November 29, 1963 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit memo unearthed in 1977-78 proves that former President George H. W. Bush was a member of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the recipient of a full briefing on the day after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963 when Bush was 39 years old, despite his protestations to the contrary. Additional evidence linking Papa Bush 41 directly to the scene of the crime is available and is circulating the internet over the past few days in the form of a U.S. intelligence-leaked photo taken just after the JFK assassination at the door of the Texas Book Depository in Dealey Plaza. The individual in the photo has the identical profile and hairline of a more youthful Papa George H. W. Bush,

standing to the left of the doorway of the building just after the assassination looking in the opposite direction of the authorities who were intent upon locating Lee Harvey Oswald. The image of the elder Bush at the Texas Book Depository is authentic and can be verified by the intelligence operatives who took the picture and would testify if subpoenaed, according to U.S. intelligence expert Thomas Heneghan, Oddly, Papa Bush is known to still keep in contact with Felix Rodriguez the anti-Castro Cuban assassin who killed Che Guevara. From the moment they elected Kennedy in 1960 till they finally killed him in November 1963, He stood as the pillar defending the sheep again from TPTBjust before his death in November 1963 on June 4, 1963, President Kennedy signed Executive Order 11110. The order could have—and should have—begun the process of ending the Federal Reserve money monopoly in America. Instead, we all know that President Kennedy was assassinated and a few months later the silver certificates he ordered into circulation were removed...JFK tried to stop it and horribly he died for it..Shortly after President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963, the USNs he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation (series 1958 silver certificates were also removed from circulation). Most Americans had no idea at the time that President Kennedy’s death was directly tied to the issuance of silver certificates, nor did they realize that they were stolen back out of circulation soon after LBJ replaced JFK as president (he actually did whileon the plane from Dallas to DC). People un-infromed just continued using fiat FRNs as "legal tender" and are still mindlessly using them as if they were "money" today. One thing is for certain: Fiat money cannot compete with real money. Had President Kennedy and the silver certificates survived, the Federal Reserve would have been out of business, the perpetual wars on everything could not be financed, our people would not be drowning in consumer credit debt, our economy would be anchored to value and New Year’s, 2009 would not be the eve of our destruction. Our choice is clear: End the Fed or do nothing and let the bastards do to our entire nation what they did to JFK on that fateful day in Dallas 45 years ago....
They tried again but missed of course they did halt the USN's and they did get to go into Vietnam... all they had to do was wait till..
Lucky number 3....Good ol "Tricky Dicky" President Nixon, on March 27, 1969, through the Government Reorganization Act divided the United States into 10 Regions. To further implement this Regional Governance over the U.S.A., President Nixon signed Executive Order 11647 and entered it in the Federal Register February 12, 1972. (Vol .37, No.30) Through the authority vested in him as President of the United States, President Nixon established a Federal Regional Council for each of the 10 standard regions. It stated that, the President shall designate one member of each Council as Chairman of the Council and such Chairman shall serve at the pleasure of the President. The fact that State borders have been destroyed to create 10 REGIONS instead of 50 Union States is something your government doesn't want you to know. NIXON's use as a Pawn in the third planned Military coup of the U.S. Government by the US Government. Following this failed plan, it was discussed about how many weapons American citizens had. In the 1990's a questionaire was handed to troops and one of the questions was "would you shoot an American citizen". The answers were varied however, mostly said no. Therefore they [World Government Planners] decided to set up the use of European forces inside the US and on the North American continent. Secondly, using Felons as security forces once released in mass. Calif, [of course] is now considering releasing 40% of their populations under the false premise of overcrowding. Once Calif releases prisoners to the general population other

States will follow, unless like N.H. they fire the US government which is what they just did in fact, just recently. In the prisons they have been running a program called "Chrisitian Identity" which is a program to indoctrinate them to accept the New Age Movement and a perverted form of Christianity. More CIA Travistock BS.... How is it that the EXACT 10 regions were formed between 1969 to 1972 to support NIXON's Executive Order 11647, in preparation for the military coup they had planned to kick off in September 1972 Republican convention. Reference "Glasshouse Tapes", by Tackwood. Assassination of Agnew and then a series of explosions blamed on the leftist, but in reality a special unit in the LAPD was trained to get this going. Nixon even had coordinated with General Cushman on how to bring in 10,000 Marines to provide Secruity for the White House. Confirmed by Seymour Hersh, in the August 1983, edition of the Atlantic Montlhy stated: Schlesinger began to investigate what forces could be assembled at his order as a counterweight to the Marines, if Nixon--in a crisis--- chose to subvert the Constitution. The notion that Nixon could at any time resort to extraordinary steps to preserve his presidency was far more widespread in the government than the public perceived in the early days of Watergate or perceives today" In 1971 it was General Cushman who as deputy director of the CIA, provided 'unauthorized" CIA support to the Illegal escapades of the Watergate 'Plumbers" , Hunt and Liddy. A person by the name of Robert Bartell, chairman of the anti-semitic Liberty Lobby, was over at a secretive 1970 Liberty Lobby fundraiser for a project known as Operation SURVIVAL. the Goal? "Finance a right wing military dictatorship for the U.S." "New World Order"; Designed three years before the third planned military coup, in 1969, and signed in 1972. The coup was ultimately passed on in 1974, and it ended, and the act was finally revoked in 1978....... Due to several considerations, Ie; the US Citizens having many private arms and the resistance they were capable of flaunting and other deciding factors. Therefore Spiro Agnew foretuneately for us was not assassinated in the September 1972 Republican convention as originally planned after all they had already killed a sitting President and taken his body to hide the evidence before it could be autopsided but the coup couldn't take place.not yet they were paitient after all they have been waiting for this day for nigh on four hundred years just a few more wouldn't hurt The EO 11647 sat in the files and was revoked in 1979 and lost to archives. But wait Lo and Behold It magically resurfaced in the FEMA ops Manuel now availabale on Obama's desk as the FEMA Transition Binder except this time they are calling it a disaster plan...
Dammit Missed again...but wait just six years later Papa Bush was suddenly thrust at us as The New VP
Papa Bush was totally involved in the Iran-Contra scandal. The Reagan/Bush administration traded weapons to Iran for the release of American hostages (or, more accurately, used the existence of American hostages as an excuse to sell weapons to Iran behind Carters back... "Just a GOOD OL BOY Right..???). Then they funded the right-wing, anti-socialist, anti-Sandanista Contra "rebel" death squad. The Contras were financed by the arms for hostages deals ? and by coc aine growing and smuggling..before he even made VP in 1976, George H W Bush held the first known meeting between the CIA and Panama Military Dictator Manuel Noriega. At this point, Noriega started receiving $110,000 a year from the CIA and ended up as the Bankster for the whole operation..meanwhile while Papa Bush was trading drugs for money for guns..He was also planning a liitle coup but this time they would be more clever. REX 84 a little plan that was devised by Papa Bush short for Readiness Exercise 1984. Through Rex-84 an undisclosed number of concentration camps were set in operation

throughout the United States, for internment of dissidents and others potentially harmful to the state. The Rex 84 Program was originally established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA...Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons...Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of that coming police state and thus will head up all operations directly.in conjunction with "Homeland Security" The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation. Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987 (but hidden behaind Armored Doors untill that point...WHY..???), and subsequently reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987
" These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached."
And there you have it ~ the real purpose of FEMA is to not only protect the government but to Aid its principal vehicle on the assumption that Martial Law were to be enacted....Little Georgie Bush Jr who was hoping and chomping on the bit to be the dictator of the US (Just reported ON the MSM of all Places Yesterday...DUH...) and finally after waiting patiently for his turn ..he got caught. Now the Baton has been passed to the next puppet Obama who unfortuneately will do EXACTLY as he is told by Brzezinski his advisor. Obama who I had backed whole heartedly (I lobbied long and hard for this guy with Rock the Vote and Volunteering for his Caimpagn...Because He touted "The CHANGE" has changed nothing and unfortunately is really nothing but a puppet to the Bilderbergers, The Banksters, and now Military Machine that has been backing this Agenda for quite sometime (please see Alex Jones Endgames & or Zeitgeist 1 & 2) and is being built up to be the next dictator when the time is right as laid out by his 3 predecessors. Their basic plan, Increase Unemployment, Eliminate Banks, drive Americans out into the Streets because they have no home to stay in.. even now the CIA is underhandedly orchestrating a crime wave to be executed by the MS-13 and LGF Latino Gangs which will then no doubt prompt the Sheep to beg for Martial law therby enabling their original plan of dominance if that doesn't work then we will simply have the next 9/11...WAKE UP PATRIOTS AND UNITE...If we all know then how could it be a "CONSPRIACY"..the more that know the better...Do you think the original Patriots that instituted the Original Tea Party were Terrorists...???Because if only a few were to stand up and try that today they most certainly would be labeled as Terrorists..but if Everyperson in your Town, City, Community were in "ON IT"...TPTB would have no choice but to listen... H.R. 645 has just authorized over 3,000 U.S. "FEMA Protection Camps" and they will again push for the institution the Real ID Card Act (show me your papers...???) that was supposed to be enacted in May 2008. Because the operation was discovered in 2007 and Exposed in the MSM they pushed the Real ID card act to back to this May 31 2009 but even now there are Patriots States standing in the way of that fiasco... This is for all the people that flamed us. They said we were wrong. They fought us tooth and nail, called us names, and called us crazy.

Like we had nothing better to do and just hated The Fed's, The IMF, The Federal Reserve, The Bilderberger's, Kissinger, Nixon, all of the Bush's and yes EVEN FEMA for no readily apparent reason.??? They claimed it was just Partisan Politics or the fact that we were all Crazy.... NO... it wasn't.... It was because of the lies. These lies. In your face lies, that the American people should never, EVER forget. But you know who this is really for? This is for the dead. This is for the families of the dead. This is for you Marines, Army, Navy, Air Force, Guard and all other Coalition Forces that are fighting a war based on lies.(WMD's in iraq, when we all know it was for Oil and the Chance to take down another Non IMF Country..PS IRAN is Next on their Hitlist).. This is for the cops that may be forced to seriously think (?????) about when they may have to Round-UP another Patriot, take their Guns and force them into a "Protection Camp". This is for AMERICA.. not for me or someguy hiding at home with a tinfoil hat ON. Think about it. The American people need the truth. No More Lies.

"If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched." George H W Bush, cited in the June 1992 Sarah McClendon Newsletter.
The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy, and when you’re inside, and look around, what do you see? Businessmen, Teachers, Lawyers, Carpenters, the very minds of the people we are
trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand: most of these people are not ready to be unplugged, and many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it. - in the words of our good friend Morpheus

Wake up and start connecting the dots before you decide to tear them down...lets stop them before they have to use these things don't you see...if we all know then how could it be SECRET....Sadly, far too many Americans are woefully ignorant when it comes to understanding their rights and the Constitution. As Gary Alder notes in his “15 Key Principles of the Founding Fathers,” the “9th and 10th Amendments are the keystones to preserving Freedom.” In fact, the first 10 amendments, known as the Bill of (Individual) Rights, clarify the restraints placed on the national government and they safeguard the rights of individuals. It does not take a rocket scientist to conclude that all of these individual rights are under withering attack by the federal government.
The Movement has already started and the more people we bring on board the better...how can stop us if we ALL stand up for Our Rights...

Remember We still Surround them...



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Now this is really good...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

great summary.

I would add the failed attempt on Reagan made 41 have to wait against hope for the presidency.

That's the only missing piece I am aware of.
S & F

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no doubt...sorry but I was trying to condense...
you gotta know Papa was behind that one

google,,,bush link to Kennedy assassination ...

after all if he could be behind that then whats to stop him from takin a shot at Ronnie.. or the Pope for that matter...didn't TPTB try to get him right around the same time...??? hmmmm....more fuel for the fire..???

ck Vatican Assassins...or the Black Pope... there is just so much info.. but it does all tie together somehow..

Instead of just cutting and pasting other peoples words, how about you provide some links and post what you've cut and pasted into some external quote tags?

Anybody can paste in four pages written or spoken by somebody else.

How about some original ideas?

Got any?

Originally posted by Chadwickus
Instead of just cutting and pasting other peoples words, how about you provide some links and post what you've cut and pasted into some external quote tags?

Anybody can paste in four pages written or spoken by somebody else.

How about some original ideas?

Got any?

yeah they are all listed on your previous thread...
my original idea was that you needed help...obviously others fell in with me there was that not enough..???

PS...do I need to read the books for you..??? do I have to change your diaper too..??? how much more info do you need..?? did you even read my post..?? do you really just need a hug..???
Cause I'm still willing to give you one...regardless of the stance...

Hashishian

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Sorry but I don't see any links that relate to this in any of my threads, besides, what's the point of them somewhere else when you need to cite them here?

I think you're starting to get a bit defensive, what's the matter? rattling your cage?

I'm the big bad Australian dis-info agent!


Let me ask you this:

If you are so sure that martial law is inevitable, why do you sit in front of your computer and write about how it's inevitable?

Why not do something about it?

Oh you're spreading the word by posting it here on ATS, a site where I reckon 80% of the members know all about the NWO anyway, so you're not really spreading the word, you've just found your comfort zone where lot's of people agree with you and it makes you feel all big inside.


Why not step out of the comfort zone?

why don't you get off your whinging arse and rattle some cages of these NWO types huh?

It's your freedom at stake isn't it???

sure come on up...we have ten more free screenings already planned. ...the last one we had 180 people (ten local cops and four firefighters...who all thanked us and asked for DVD's) most of which had never even heard of any of this here and more on the scheduled and on the docket.(zeitgeist, endgame and freedom or fascism)..all free and open to anyone even Big bad disinfo agents like yourself..come on up and bring some of that awesome aussie beer with you I'll gladly help you tip a few after we get done huggin it out and I'll even give you my seat at the podium and the mic for the night...maybe you can MC a few screening's for us we always need help (and don't forget the Beer...good thick Beer)..maybe after you realize that we are trying to stop this.. not enable it... you might pick up some free DVD's and hold some open info screenings for yourself and a few friends...unless of course your not worried about your friends, family, country in which case it would be better to stay in the house and on your computer trying to debunk all this so you can sleep better at night..I never said that martial law is inevitable.. and I certainly don't promote that at any of the screening's.. what we are trying to say is that is what TPTB need to win...what we try to promote is open a free activism..write your congressman, write your senator, write your Pres..our pres whatever...tell your friends...tell your church..tell your loved ones..spray paint on the bridge by your house heck spray paint it on your house...a little graffiti never hurt anyone..
how bout you try to realize that all we are trying to say is... Be Informed...

after all that is why we are here right...I don't think I can jump on board with the whole reptilian thing on ATS...but I don't spend anytime trying to tear them down,,They are after all entitled to their own opinion...but it seems the info on their plight might be a lot harder to prove than all the info we have provided you here..

nice try though and remember I asked if you just needed a hug..???
I'm not feeling the love chadwickus my boy.... but I'll offer again...XXXOOO
make love not war... there is already enough war and nobody wins those

onedollardvdproject.com...

End the Fed... before it ends US

I wonder how this all ties in

digg.com...

brand new and hot off the presses...crap
everytime we move forward...TPTB knock us backward...

write your politician's about this one...

fight the good fight...

reply to post by Hashishian


Wait a minute... all that to shill a site selling dvd's??

So you're happy for people to find the truth out as long as they're willing to pay for it?


How does that make you any different from the people you're supposedly fighting against??

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by Hashishian

 

Wait a minute... all that to shill a site selling dvd's??

So you're happy for people to find the truth out as long as they're willing to pay for it?


How does that make you any different from the people you're supposedly fighting against??

not my site bro'... nor are we affiliated just a great place to get informed...if that is what you want right??? ..all of our local screening's and the DVD's we pass out there are free...

www.onedollardvdproject.com...... has got the right idea...one for you and two more copies to pass out to your friends...they actually encourage you too make multiple copies so you reach more people...cool....I'm pretty sure they aren't going to break the bank over there after all...
three DVD's for a dollar....hmmmm
3.5 trillion in spending....hmmmmm ..

...okeydokeysmokey... still afraid to hug a man I see....I'll still try again though...XXXOOO..make more love, less war...

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What are you talking from experience?

I see you guys were "real" tough on keeping your guns.

reply to post by Chadwickus


He took alot of time to assemble information.

Give him a break already. Go troll somewhere else.

Originally posted by j2000
reply to post by Chadwickus

 

What are you talking from experience?

I see you guys were "real" tough on keeping your guns.

Nice upside down american flag. "heading to DC soon"
Yeah, right.

Originally posted by j2000
reply to post by Chadwickus

 

He took alot of time to assemble information.

Give him a break already. Go troll somewhere else.

Thanks J.... we need all the help we can get....