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Originally posted by Electricgypsy
Keep dreaming if Iran is hit by Israel they have U.S. backup Iran will be crushed just like Iraq and IMHO its way overdue we should have destroyed Iran when Reagan was elected!!!!
I would add that after losing control of Iran after the revolution the US embarked upon a campaign of revenge via their proxy stooge in Iraq, a CIA trained operative names Saddam Hussien. This maniac was supplied weapons including chemical weapons to wage one of the most brutal wars ever seen. Despite vast amounts of evidence and repeated pleas to the UN and the world a blind eye was turned as America continued to deploy horrific chemical and biological weapons against the Iranians. The UN specifically acknowledged that their use contravened the Geneva convention and that their use was war crime and crime against humanity however turned a blind eye as Saddam continued its assault on Iran and the request of the US in return for assured power and on going support.
From 1963 and into the seventies, the Shah struggled to modernize Iran - with help from the U.S., where foreign policy strategists saw him as a stabilizing force in the Middle East and appreciated his acceptance of the existence of Israel. With help from the United States, Iran laid plans for a proliferation of atomic power plants, and the new economic development included the introduction of new fertilizers and pesticides. Between 1963 and 1967 Iran's economy rose dramatically. Oil production boomed, producing an abundance of cash for Iran. Steel mills rose from 1,902 in 1963 to 7,989 in 1977. There were also new oil refineries, aluminum smelters, machine tool factories and new tractors, trucks and automobiles. Public education improved dramatically, as did public health services. The number of doctors increased three-fold and the number of hospital beds doubled.
But the stigma of the bloody repression in 1963 remained, and the Shah continued his repression against clerics hostile to his modernization. In 1966 he established book censorship, with police agents raiding mosque libraries. In 1967 new laws gave women the right to apply for divorce without the husband's permission, a man had to secure his wife's consent before taking a second wife, and legal matters involving families were transferred from religious to secular courts.
No matter what one belives of the war in iraq and all the rest, iran is a country where homosexuals get hanged in the middle of public squares from cranes, where apostasy is punished with death, where the basic rights are neglected by the state/religion itself, leaving the weak and different helpless.
I belive a country in which rights like divorce, the right to practice the religion you like, the sexual habits you want, and at the end a country where a religious council makes the laws, is plain and simple barbarian.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by bpg131313
China's economy is so intertwined with the U.S. and dependent on the U.S., China will never support Iran over the U.S., oil agreement do not over ride these ties. China's economy is far more dependent on the U.S., and the U.S. economy does not depend on China at all. China only succeeds in pushing U.S. workers wages down. Can you grasp the implications?
Although the Iran–Iraq War from 1980–1988 was a war for dominance of the Persian Gulf region, the roots of the war go back many centuries. There has been rivalry between kingdoms of Assyria (the Fertile Crescent valley, modern Syria) and the rugged highlands to the East (Persia or modern Iran) since the beginning of recorded history in Sumer.
With more than 100,000 Iranian victims of Iraq's chemical weapons during the eight-year war, Iran is one of the countries most severely afflicted by "weapons of mass destruction".
The official estimate does not include the civilian population contaminated in bordering towns or the children and relatives of veterans, many of whom have developed blood, lung and skin complications, according to the Organization for Veterans of Iran. According to a 2002 article in the Star-Ledger:
Originally posted by branty
Iran does not want war with Isreal ,or any country for that matter, but they see what has occured in Iraq and now Afgan.
If you were in a country like Iran and seen the propaganda machines at work , you would be preparing to defend yourself as well. Iran was helping Hamas because they are the only country that sees the truth going on there , Isreal is a Imperilist country seeking only to obtain Gaza as its own.
Make no mistake, if called upon Iran will defend itself and this offensive by Isreal will not be a slaughtering of undefended this time, Iran will crush Isreal and I hope they do.
This video of Pres of Iran shows his intentions, not the edited versions US msm have propaganded.
Do let another 1.3 million people die for a lie. Nice vid , 3 min on shows his meaning.
Originally posted by Jinni
Ahmedinejad doesn't sound like any politician I know!
He really seems like an honest person asking for nothing but for the PEOPLE of the world to untie. Regardless of colour, religion, nationality or whatever.
Compare that with the mindless saber rattling perpetuated by the UK and US political fronts.
Now I know why we NEVER hear\understand his speeches on mainstream media!
Thanks for posting.
P.S. Seriously...again another misleading thread title though...
[edit on 5-3-2009 by Jinni]