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Isreal is a Imperilist country seeking only to obtain Gaza as its own.
Originally posted by FlyersFanThere is nothing wrong with exposing a liar.
If you wish debate with us here or learn more about this subject. You present yourself as if you've read a few news articals from MSM and then spat it back to us as if it were the truth, not as someone who truly understands the material. Your previous posts are not doing a service to this forum an you aren't gaining respect for it amongst us if you refuse to seriously address the arguments/helpfull information that previous posters have made i'd ask of you to stop spamming these forums..
Originally posted by munkey66
It's called history, Israel has a habit of pre emptive strikes on nuclear facilities
Originally posted by Electricgypsy
Keep dreaming if Iran is hit by Israel they have U.S. backup Iran will be crushed just like Iraq and IMHO its way overdue we should have destroyed Iran when Reagan was elected!!!!
Originally posted by bobbylove321
So if Israel does attack Iran, they'll lose, and vice versa. NO ONE likes the aggressor. Period.
Originally posted by allsop
I don't know how you came this far in the thread.
Any mods on notice this guy? blatently dis-info :|.
ps: I took this from another posters forum
Originally posted by Odessy
Israel did control and own Gaza... and they gave it back... for peace... obviously that didn't work.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Does anyone on this thread remember the Savak? They were Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlavi’s secret police. They were infamous for their abuse of human rights.
Prior to the Iranian revolution there were two classes of people in Iran. Very wealth elite who were international, that you would have a better chance of meeting shopping in Paris, London, or Beverly Hills or hobnobbing it up with politicians in Washington D.C.
Then there were the dirt poor. As in dirt poor, and when the dirt poor complained about how they were disenfranchised from the nation’s oil wealth it meant one thing and one thing only to the Savak. Communists!
Dissidents were dealt with brutally and thoroughly. The Savak was backed up by the CIA. The CIA was instrumental in bringing the Shah’s father to power a couple decades before.
As the power of Israel grew, and the power of the Israeli political lobby within the United States grew, Iran was considered our ace in the hole to defeat any oil embargos brought levied against the U.S. by any consortium of Arab nations in retaliation for our financial and military support of Israel.
Keeping the Shah in power and backing up the Savak was a priority of successive U.S. Administrations up until Jimmy Carter came to power. When Carter decided to gut the black operations department of the CIA and make many of their clandestine activities illegal under U.S. Law the Savak found itself without it’s safety net and prime source of intelligence. The dissidents fighting against them, the corruption of the Shah’s regime, the human rights violations it perpetuated and the abject poverty and squalor the vast majority of Iranian society was forced to live in quickly began gaining the upper hand.
Most of the Savak fled along with the Shah, and most of them are quietly growing old in the Washington D.C. suburbs and Los Angeles today.
Americans might have been ignorant about what was going on in Iran, but Iranians weren’t ignorant of it. They understood implicitly that the real power behind the Savak and the Shah was the United States. It’s why they chose the U.S. Embassy as their statement. It also had key intelligence as to whom within the Shah’s regime was responsible for the lion’s share of atrocities against the people.
One could argue we held their country hostage for decades. One could even argue we held their country hostage for decades in order to compensate for a flawed foreign policy that turned a blind eye to Israel’s human right’s violations.
There is a lot of bad blood between the three nations as a result of all this.
A lot of nations have suffered a plague of indignities to insert a Jewish nation back into the volatile Middle East and for it’s survival to be ensured. Political correctness dictates that it is acceptable in this case for the many to suffer for the good of the few.
Good leadership dictates the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.
A tremendous amount of suffering is ignored and swept under the carpet, while still to this day a disparate number of people are persecuted because the horrors visited upon them are made to seem insubstantial and inconsequential compared to the few that a might makes right scenario are deemed far more worthy of consideration and political correctness.
In my humble opinion the usurped word anti-Semitism which is a misnomer since almost all Arabic peoples are Semites should be instead anti-Revisionism, for it is often evoked when someone has a problem with the revising of history.
That anyone people should be elevated above any form of criticism is ludicrous. That any one group of people who have nuclear weapons appoint themselves as to who else should and shouldn’t is simply hypocritical. Give your nuclear weapons up first before you bemoan the other nation’s arsenal or attempt to achieve one. If no one had them, no one would need them.
That the United States is bankrupting itself and crumbling from within enflaming and perpetuating these age old differences in religion is a pretty horrific thing unto itself for a nation before it was usurped was founded on separation of church and state.
That the old are so anxious to commit the young to wars is nothing new. One can only hope that one generation of youth will not be so dependent upon the older generation’s approval to keep falling into this trap.
I am pretty sure Iran does not want war. I am fairly certain Israel does. If it happens I would like to see both sides fight it without American weapons or money. Talk about dreaming.