At the risk of being branded an Anti-Semitic, I need to understand something.

Why is it that everytime someone suggests a threat to Israel, another will respond with rhetoric saying the U.S. will jump in and save them? I know historically the U.S. has provided a great deal of support for the state of Israel. Is there any reliable souces that can show the majority of us Americans actually agree with support of Israel?

I have nothing against Jewish people. I have Jewish friends. I have even worked beside Israelis. I welcome them all to come live in the U.S., if they choose. However, I do not want to provide economic or military support to keep Israel going.

If Israel wants to put a stick in the hornets nest and rattle it, I think they should go at it alone. Am I the only American that feels this way?

Let them fight their own battles. Since they are "Gods Children" there is no way they will lose, right. This piece of rock there has been the source of so much bloodshed for ages. Let them fight it out, who ever wins, wins. Leave the rest of us out of it, and my tax dollars as well.

Israel could beat Iran in a week long border skirmish, but they don't share a border, and Iran has a pool of recruitment-age males larger than the entire population of Israel. Iran has ten times Israel's population. (at a similar total GDP) It's kind of no contest. Israel definitely could not invade Iran, and Iran probably could not invade Israel.

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I agree with Branty.

Originally posted by FlyersFan


Saddam invaded Kuwait and he lost. He was required to filfill UN regulations afterwards. He didn't. He continually broke UN rules. It was perfectly legal for the 'Coalition of the Willing' to enter Iraq and force it to abide by UN resolutions since Iraq lost the war against Kuwait that it started.

Do you realise that Israel is consistently in breach of UN law, resolutions and regulations? Does it matter when its Israel?

Originally posted by BigC2012
Iran has been very dignified throughout all this ...

riiiiiiight. dignified. Their leaders manage to publically deny the holocost and call for Israel to be wiped off the world map. (side note - their state sponsored stonings of homosexuals isn't dignified either!)

Ah, and your elected leader G.W. Bush came to power by increasing state killings which many believe to be immoral. Some of those killed by the Texas governer were mentally retarded. Is that ok because its in America?

Originally posted by Jinni
Ahmedinejad doesn't sound like any politician I know!

Yes, you are right. He's the only politician I have ever heard of that applauds the public stoning of homosexuals and then turns around and says that his country doesn't have a 'homosexual problem'. (cuz' they all get killed off by the gov't). He's one of very few politicians who publically denies the holocost ever happened. Lovely little man.

He says it as it is. Applaud his honesty and ability not to be brain washed like the rest of us.

Originally posted by American_Soviets
Meanwhile, what Israel did to the Palestinians,

Oh please ... more like - What the 'palestinians' did and continue to to do Israel.

Care to elaborate? Even the UN condemns Israel, oh thats right even the UN dont count when unless they are critisising the arabs. The root of the problem is Israels illegal occupation, the Palestinians are defending themselves as they have an absolute right to.

Originally posted by sueloujo
But in the video the Iranian president clearly states he wants peace...

And considering the anti-Israel, anti-holocost rhetoric that comes out of that guys mouth .. you believe this statement about him wanting peace?

Why would we not, has he been caught lying like our leaders? Has he sanctioned invasions of other countries? Prove it if he has.

Originally posted by Jinni
Israel is an aggressor and transgressor on mankind.

Yes .. tiny little Israel .. the cause of all the worlds woes. It couldn't possibly be the fault of the Islamics in the area. No. They are such a peaceful bunch it couldn't possibly be them. *sarcasim*

You sounded almost right for a second there. Facts speak loudest, and Israel is the baddie in this mess, try denying it and you are plain ignorant to the facts no matter what propaganda site you visit.

Right now, the US cannot afford another war.

Fighting the war in Iraq may have already bankrupted us or at a very minimum, it has helped create a huge budget deficit.

So, I don't think that Obama will jump in to rescue Israel if Israel starts a war with Iran.

Iran is no innocent in the wars of the middle east. They supply weapons to Hamas.

I don't see Israel as imperialistic since they gave the gaza strip back to the Palestinians. Unfortunately, all that the Palestinians have done with gaza is us it as a base to launch missiles.

I wouldn't want to live in the middle east. I think that Obama should encourage all Israelis to move to some other country and let the Palestinians have the whole area.

Originally posted by Electricgypsy
Keep dreaming if Iran is hit by Israel they have U.S. backup Iran will be crushed just like Iraq and IMHO its way overdue we should have destroyed Iran when Reagan was elected!!!!

Pfff, Israel dont even need the US' help to destroy Iran

They did win a war against Syria, Egypt and Lebanon, beating them all at the same time.....and in 8 days....

And everyone thats in Israel is military trained. Its mandantory that each citizen spends at least two years in the armed forces at the age of nineteen

Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by Electricgypsy
Keep dreaming if Iran is hit by Israel they have U.S. backup Iran will be crushed just like Iraq and IMHO its way overdue we should have destroyed Iran when Reagan was elected!!!!

Pfff, Israel dont even need the US' help to destroy Iran

They did win a war against Syria, Egypt and Lebanon, beating them all at the same time.....and in 8 days....

And everyone thats in Israel is military trained. Its mandantory that each citizen spends at least two years in the armed forces at the age of nineteen

Plzz my freind , Israel dont need US help, .....Isreal would be throwing rocks if the US didn't arm them

Originally posted by branty
Plzz my freind , Israel dont need US help, .....Isreal would be throwing rocks if the US didn't arm them

What?

The USA didnt arm Israel, lol. You must not be that old, no offence intended.

Since its founding, the IDF has strived to be a unique army fitting Israel's specific requirements, and has also developed numerous local technologies, such as the Merkava main battle tank, Uzi submachine gun, and the Galil and Tavor assault rifles.

See above quote, those weapons were created by the Israelis. They have no need to get weapons from the Americans, apart from their missile defence systems.

And

The IDF traces its roots to Jewish paramilitary organizations in the New Yishuv, starting with the Second Aliyah. The first such organization was Bar-Giora, founded in September 1907. It was converted to Hashomer in April 1909, which operated until the British Mandate of Palestine came into being in 1920.

Again, they dont need US help

And

It served as Israel's armed forces in all the country's wars—the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, the 1956 Sinai War, the 1967 Six-Day War, the War of Attrition, the 1973 Yom Kippur War, the 1982 Lebanon War and the 2006 Lebanon War. While originally the IDF fully operated on three fronts—against Lebanon and Syria in the north, Jordan and Iraq in the east, and Egypt in the south—after the 1979 Egyptian–Israeli Peace Treaty,

There's proof that they havent lost a war. Like I said, if you can beat several nations at the same time, on three fronts....in six days, then you obviously dont need help