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posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 10:43 PM
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'Israel seriously considering military action against Iran'


www.jpost.com

Israel is seriously considering taking unilateral military action to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, according to a report by top US political figures and experts released Wednesday.

The report also says Israel's time frame for action is growing shorter, not only because of Iranian advances, but because Teheran might soon acquire upgraded air defenses and disperse its nuclear program to additional locations.
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posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 10:43 PM
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The report, put out by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy), argues that international sanctions against Iran need to be intensified urgently for the engagement the Obama administration is planning with Teheran to be effective.

In recent days, four key developments have clicked in to edge Iran and Israel much closer to a military denouement with profound consequences.

First, Iran has proven it can successfully launch a satellite. Teheran claimed, to the incredulity of Western governments, that the satellite was to monitor earthquakes and enhance communications. Few believe that, especially since America's own space program continuously launches unpublished military satellite missions. Teheran plans three more satellites this year, creating an easily weaponized space net that worries American military planners.

Second, the International Atomic Energy Agency last week admitted that it had underestimated Iran's nuclear stockpile by about one-third. The watchdog group now confirms Iran possesses 2,227 lbs. of nuclear material, sufficient to create at least one nuclear bomb. That stockpile includes 1,010 kilograms of low-enriched uranium hexafluoride, or approximately 700 kilograms containing the vital uranium 235 isotope, the stuff needed to weaponize.

Third, Iran has ramped up its enrichment program with thousands of new homegrown, highly advanced centrifuges. Iran wants 6,000 centrifuges to speed the enrichment of weapons-grade material. The number of working centrifuges now exceeds 5,400, including 164 new ones believed to be the faster and more efficient IR-2 and IR-3 models made in Iran.

American policymakers are now convinced that Iran, despite all protests and charades, is in a mad dash to create a deliverable nuclear weapon. The Obama administration has almost openly abandoned the assertions of the CIA's much-questioned 2008 National Intelligence Estimate that concluded Iran was not pursuing nuclear weaponry for the simple reason that its atomic program and military programs were housed in separate buildings.

Fourth, Binyamin Netanyahu has just become prime minister of Israel. He is determined to take action before - not after - Iran achieves its nuclear potential. This creates a volatile, hair-trigger situation that could explode at any moment. Hence, the endgame is now vastly closer than it was in mid-January, when many believed Israel might take action during the lame-duck interregnum.
Israeli countermeasures to date have included a massive international covert program of equipment sabotage, assassination of key nuclear personnel and a vibrant diplomatic offensive. But all these efforts combined amount to nothing more than delaying tactics, as Iran is irrevocably determined to achieve a nuclear weapon as fast as possible. Many believe such a weapon will be used to fulfill its prediction that Israel will soon be wiped off the map.

THE CONSEQUENCES for this confrontation are apocalyptic because Iran's full partner in this enterprise is Russia. The Russian company Atomstroiexport has provided most if not all of the nuclear material for the 1,000 megawatt Bushehr reactor, along with thousands of technicians to service and operate it.



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posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by jdub297


The report, put out by the Washington Institute for Near East Policy), argues that international sanctions against Iran need to be intensified urgently for the engagement the Obama administration is planning with Teheran to be effective.

In recent days, four key developments have clicked in to edge Iran and Israel much closer to a military denouement with profound consequences.

First, Iran has proven it can successfully launch a satellite. Teheran claimed, to the incredulity of Western governments, that the satellite was to monitor earthquakes and enhance communications. Few believe that, especially since America's own space program continuously launches unpublished military satellite missions. Teheran plans three more satellites this year, creating an easily weaponized space net that worries American military planners.

Second, the International Atomic Energy Agency last week admitted that it had underestimated Iran's nuclear stockpile by about one-third. The watchdog group now confirms Iran possesses 2,227 lbs. of nuclear material, sufficient to create at least one nuclear bomb. That stockpile includes 1,010 kilograms of low-enriched uranium hexafluoride, or approximately 700 kilograms containing the vital uranium 235 isotope, the stuff needed to weaponize.

Third, Iran has ramped up its enrichment program with thousands of new homegrown, highly advanced centrifuges. Iran wants 6,000 centrifuges to speed the enrichment of weapons-grade material. The number of working centrifuges now exceeds 5,400, including 164 new ones believed to be the faster and more efficient IR-2 and IR-3 models made in Iran.

American policymakers are now convinced that Iran, despite all protests and charades, is in a mad dash to create a deliverable nuclear weapon. The Obama administration has almost openly abandoned the assertions of the CIA's much-questioned 2008 National Intelligence Estimate that concluded Iran was not pursuing nuclear weaponry for the simple reason that its atomic program and military programs were housed in separate buildings.

Fourth, Binyamin Netanyahu has just become prime minister of Israel. He is determined to take action before - not after - Iran achieves its nuclear potential. This creates a volatile, hair-trigger situation that could explode at any moment. Hence, the endgame is now vastly closer than it was in mid-January, when many believed Israel might take action during the lame-duck interregnum.
Israeli countermeasures to date have included a massive international covert program of equipment sabotage, assassination of key nuclear personnel and a vibrant diplomatic offensive. But all these efforts combined amount to nothing more than delaying tactics, as Iran is irrevocably determined to achieve a nuclear weapon as fast as possible. Many believe such a weapon will be used to fulfill its prediction that Israel will soon be wiped off the map.

THE CONSEQUENCES for this confrontation are apocalyptic because Iran's full partner in this enterprise is Russia. The Russian company Atomstroiexport has provided most if not all of the nuclear material for the 1,000 megawatt Bushehr reactor, along with thousands of technicians to service and operate it.



www.jpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Iran is not planning to attack Israel, it is the other way around so why are they advising more sanctions against Iran. What has the world come to lol. This just makes me laugh.



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 11:10 PM
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Picture this:
Your neighbor is constantly telling everyone in the neighborhood that you should be eliminated, have no right to exist, and will soon be reduced to ash.

As he is saying these things, he's gathering the parts to build a bomb in his garage.

He arranges with others in the neighborhood for delivery service to your door.

The bomb will be ready for delivery in a few months, or the really nasty parts of it can be delivered right now.

You have nothing to worry about, right?

Did I misread your post?

deny ignorance

jw



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 11:13 PM
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I believe that Ahmedinijad (sp?) never said anything about eliminating Israel. It was a mistranslation and he actually said that the regime of Israel needs to be taken out.



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by jdub297
Picture this:
Your neighbor is constantly telling everyone in the neighborhood that you should be eliminated, have no right to exist, and will soon be reduced to ash.






I believe that Ahmedinijad (sp?) never said anything about eliminating Israel. It was a mistranslation and he actually said that the regime of Israel needs to be taken out.


That being said, many, many more mistranslations have been around Internet.




As he is saying these things, he's gathering the parts to build a bomb in his garage.

If you are talking about the Iranian nuclear program than once again you are confused. Ask any expert they will tell you that Iran cannot make any nuclear weapons with its current facilities. It is propaganda. Iran has allowed full inspection of all its facilities.




He arranges with others in the neighborhood for delivery service to your door.

The bomb will be ready for delivery in a few months, or the really nasty parts of it can be delivered right now.

You have nothing to worry about, right?

Did I misread your post?

deny ignorance

jw

No comment lol.... Your turn



posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 10:59 PM
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Israeli countermeasures to date have included a massive international covert program of equipment sabotage, assassination of key nuclear personnel


Sounds like International terrorism to me.

So ..... when will Mohamed El Baradei and the (IAEA) be visiting Dimona ?

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Now don`t get me wrong , there are no "righteous" sides , the worst aspects of human nature are prevalent on all sides of this issue.

But until there is even handedness and a level playing field with adherence to clearly defined rules by which all groups must abide , there will be no peace.
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posted on Mar, 5 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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iran with nukes = armageddon

iran will go after the little satan-isreal then come after the big satan usa

iran actively fought agianst us and openly in iraq

is there any common sense left in this country

the rhetoric already comming out of iran is obama is another bush...

then you know they will give hamas nukes and god knows who else not to mention
the entire middle east doesnt want this to happen

wake up people

[edit on 6-3-2009 by neo67]

[edit on 6-3-2009 by neo67]



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 01:17 AM
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Iran is making weapons of mass destruction.. kinda like the ones found in Iraq. ;P

Warmongering has to stop.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by neo67

iran with nukes = armageddon


How so? People always seem to have this crazy idea of manic eyed Iranian clerics pushing to bring the end of the world closer. Of course, they have no proof of this other than baseless propaganda. But hey, never let a few complete lies get in the way of the truth.


iran will go after the little satan-isreal then come after the big satan usa


Iran is going after nobody. Whose carrier fleets keep steaming around whose shores again? How many Iranian fighters and bombers patrol the US borders?


iran actively fought agianst us and openly in iraq


Credible evidence please. There was never any evidence shown of Iranian involvement or the fabled Iranian weapons, allegedly supplied to Iraqis, shown to back this up.


is there any common sense left in this country


Not likely. Israel will get it's way probably simply because it has the the US political might bought and paid for.


the rhetoric already comming out of iran is obama is another bush...


Well if Obama wants talks with Iran then he only has to ask, but do not expect to go in with a list of predetermined actions to impose on Iran.


then you know they will give hamas nukes and god knows who else not to mention
the entire middle east doesnt want this to happen


Priceless! What nukes? Stop and think for a minute. Israel, for all the talk about Iranian arms smuggled daily into Gaza have not shown any evidence. Apart from small arms and homemade rockets, Hamas has nothing. Absolute hysteria!


wake up people


Maybe it's because people have woken up to all the lies from our governments and Israel that no war has broken out yet.



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 11:12 AM
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do you think i want to be right- god i hope i am wrong

go ahead and bash isreal and be the defender of iran good for you



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 11:20 AM
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Yeah Iran wants to have 1945 technology but cannot because a bunch of warmongerers don't want a counter to their wars in the middle-east?

Who cares if Iran have a nuclear bomb. Let them have it. Maybe Israel will stop their BS after that.

[edit on 6-3-2009 by Vitchilo]



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 11:22 AM
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Read Wednesday's WINEP report. FIFTEEN non-affiliated political scientists, scientists, academics and diplomats agree that Iran will be nuclear capable and armed to deliver much sooner than anyone anticipates.

They also see that Israel will act on its own if it feels the time has come. And, the time has come.

Their "best" recommendation? Complete embargo of Iran. Everything.

This is not "propaganda," it is fact and advice from peaceful people who want to avert disaster.

No hidden agenda. No stake in the outcome, except peace.

Laugh all you want. Ignorance is bliss.

It's the one big disappointment I have with ATS that so many members refuse to investigate on their own, have a self-interest to espouse, and believe that by criticism and sarcasm they have "countered" logical and reasoned posting of fact.

There are no opinions in the OP. Every statement is a verified statement of fact.

Deny Ignorance!

jw

[edit on 6-3-2009 by jdub297]



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 11:32 AM
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If Iran wants the bomb, why dont the Ruskis sell then a few ? or is not as easy as that ?



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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what good is a weapon that can never be used--nuke are useless


the largest arms dealers in the world are the us,china,russia,france,and great britain.

heres a why you dont want iran with nukes look at pakistan and india how many times have those 2 been on the brink of total obliteration?

[edit on 6-3-2009 by neo67]



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 11:52 AM
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Nukes can be, have been and will be used again. The more self-righteous and nationalistic a nuclear-capable organization is, the more likely it will use the most extreme measures at its disposal.

Look at Al-Qaeda and airliners, Hezbollah and rockets/assassination. Anthrax has been used in the U.S. and elsewhere. Saddam Hussein had no problem using chemical weapons.

Forget the examples of WWI and WWII. The threat is real.


jw

[edit on 6-3-2009 by jdub297]



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by neo67
what good is a weapon that can never be used--nuke are useless


the largest arms dealers in the world are the us,china,russia,france,and great britain.

heres a why you dont want iran with nukes look at pakistan and india how many times have those 2 been on the brink of total obliteration?

[edit on 6-3-2009 by neo67]


Around the same amount of times the Americans and Russians have during the cold war ?



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by disfugured

Originally posted by neo67
what good is a weapon that can never be used--nuke are useless


the largest arms dealers in the world are the us,china,russia,france,and great britain.

heres a why you dont want iran with nukes look at pakistan and india how many times have those 2 been on the brink of total obliteration?

[edit on 6-3-2009 by neo67]


Around the same amount of times the Americans and Russians have during the cold war ?




the difference is allah never entered into the equation

anytime you have a theocracy with nukes thats makes people cringe

[edit on 6-3-2009 by neo67]



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by jdub297
Nukes can be, have been and will be used again. The more self-righteous and nationalistic a nuclear capable orgaization is, the more likely it will use the most extreme measures at its disposal.

Look at Al-Qaeda and airliners, Hezbollah and rockets/assassination. Anthrax has been used. Saddam Hussein had no problem using chemical weapons.





jw


Well then , good citizen of Indiana and Texas (on/off) have you forgotten that it was your "self-righteous" country that has the unenviable record of being the only country to of ever used a nuclear weapon ...... TWICE and on a CIVILIAN population.

Temper your righteousness with that thought.


Regarding Assassinations et al .......... you might like to do a little reading., involving just about any country South of your border over the last 50 years .





Forget the examples of WWI and WWII


Lets not .

To clumsily paraphrase that famous quote ;" those that do not know their history are liable to repeat it"



The threat is real


Indeed it is ......



posted on Mar, 6 2009 @ 12:26 PM
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blaming the current generation for using nukes when we werent even alive- if that makes you feel better ok

we didnt start ww2 japan attack us first we finished it- i do wish the fatman and little boy werent used but like i said i wasnt alive then and the cost of invading japan at the time would have been more costly.

judge all you want but if you look at history- there have been countries/people that have done far worse than the usa

russia,germany, are but 2 prime examples of this

those 2 alone have killed millions and yet i live in a "self righteous country"- whatever dude

using that weapon twice is exactly why its never been used agian.

[edit on 6-3-2009 by neo67]



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