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9000 Year Old Grandparent

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posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:07 AM
reply to post by Kandinsky

Nice post and great story!

In response to the cannibalism possibility; It sounds plausible, but there are quite a few bizarre 'burial' rituals which many ancient and modern societies have endorsed. Many of which involved dissection of the human body, but without cannibalism.

Tibetan Sky burial came to mind when I thought of this possibility. In this burial ceremony, practiced extensively throughout Tibet (ahem, now China), involved the dissection of the body, and the disembowelment of organs, which were then scattered about on rocks at high altitudes for vultures to completely consume.

This is a Buddhist tradition, passing on the physical body straight back to other living entities, as well as a tradition of practicality, as the rocky earth in the Tibetan mountains is almost impossible to dig graves into.

posted on Aug, 11 2009 @ 07:33 AM
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Awesome thread and how interesting they were able to find a descendant.

So does that mean that he can now lay claim to the area as his ancestral home . . . . Just kidding about that, but there are some who would try, well if it would have occurred in America they would.

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 04:28 PM

Cheddar Gorge returns again to the news. This time three skulls have been analysed and appear to have been used as drinking vessels.

The braincases from three individuals were fashioned in such a meticulous way that their use as bowls to hold liquid seems the only reasonable explanation.

The 14,700-year-old objects were discovered in Gough's Cave, Somerset. Scientists from London's Natural History Museum say the skull-cups were probably used in some kind of ritual.
Ancient Britons 'drank from skulls'

As usual, Chris Springer is in the thick of it and has contributed to the paper on the findings...Earliest Directly-Dated Human Skull-Cups

Principal Findings

Here we describe the post-mortem processing of human heads at the Upper Palaeolithic site of Gough's Cave (Somerset, England) and identify a range of modifications associated with the production of skull-cups. New analyses of human remains from Gough's Cave demonstrate the skilled post-mortem manipulation of human bodies. Results of the research suggest the processing of cadavers for the consumption of body tissues (bone marrow), accompanied by meticulous shaping of cranial vaults. The distribution of cut-marks and percussion features indicates that the skulls were scrupulously 'cleaned' of any soft tissues, and subsequently modified by controlled removal of the facial region and breakage of the cranial base along a sub-horizontal plane. The vaults were also ‘retouched’, possibly to make the broken edges more regular. This manipulation suggests the shaping of skulls to produce skull-cups.

Cheddar Gorge, and specifically Gough's Cave, have seen a number of important finds. These skulls put human habitation of the area back to a possible...

New ultrafiltered radiocarbon determinations provide direct dates of about 14,700 cal BP, making these the oldest directly dated skull-cups and the only examples known from the British Isles.

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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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You're not seeing the whole picture. We know Cheddar man only carries his mothers DNA and does not pass it but if cheddar man had a sister who had a daughter who had a daughter etc.....that final daughter at the end could be Targetts mother. They share a common female mother only, no paternal dna involved. Another scenario would be that Cheddars mother had a sister who passed to to her daughters all the way down etc... There are probably a bunch of men and women in the area who share that specific U5a haplogroup and they all have the same common mother they just havent been tested yet. Much of north Europe is filled with U5a and other subclades like my own U5b1d1.

Link given for U5a says

Haplogroup U5 is the most common in Western and Northern Europe. DNA tests on ancient skeletons have shown that U5 was the principal mitochondrial haplogroup of Paleolithic and Mesolithic hunter-gatherers in Northern Europe. Ancient DNA tests conducted in Britain, Germany and Scandinavia indicate that the frequency of U5 has progressively declined over time through the Neolithic, Bronze Age, Iron Age and Middle Ages. Nowadays it remains most common in the far north of Europe, where the Mesolithic population has been least affected by subsequent migrations. For instance, 30 to 50% of the Sami people of northern Scandinavia belong to haplogroup U5b (and about 40% to haplogroup V, which is also pre-Neolithic European origin).

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posted on Feb, 25 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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one of my highschool teachers was found to be closely related to this prehistoric man. a very remarkable man, and very active in the educational system here in florida.

after he had a genetics test done to trace his family, he was contacted by an organization that wanted to do more research on him because he was one of the closest living relatives to the prehistoric man.

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