Miracles in the Qur'an

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posted on Feb, 1 2003 @ 02:48 PM
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The following are some comments of scientists1 on the scientific miracles in the Holy Quran. All of these comments have been taken from the videotape entitled This is the Truth. In this videotape, you can see and hear the scientists while they are giving the following comments

1) Dr. T. V. N. Persaud is Professor of Anatomy, Professor of Pediatrics and Child Health, and Professor of Obstetrics, Gynecology, and Reproductive Sciences at the University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. There, he was the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy for 16 years. He is well-known in his field. He is the author or editor of 22 textbooks and has published over 181 scientific papers. In 1991, he received the most distinguished award presented in the field of anatomy in Canada, the J.C.B. Grant Award from the Canadian Association of Anatomists. When he was asked about the scientific miracles in the Quran which he has researched, he stated the following:

The way it was explained to me is that Muhammad was a very ordinary man. He could not read, didnt know [how] to write. In fact, he was an illiterate. And were talking about twelve [actually about fourteen] hundred years ago. You have someone illiterate making profound pronouncements and statements and that are amazingly accurate about scientific nature. And I personally cant see how this could be a mere chance. There are too many accuracies and, like Dr. Moore, I have no difficulty in my mind that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which led him to these statements.

Professor Persaud has included some Quranic verses and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad in some of his books. He has also presented these verses and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad at several conferences.

2) Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson is the Chairman of the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology, and Professor of Molecular and Human Genetics at the Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, USA. Formerly, he was Professor of Ob-Gyn and the Chairman of the Department of Ob-Gyn at the University of Tennessee, Memphis, Tennessee, USA. He was also the President of the American Fertility Society. He has received many awards, including the Association of Professors of Obstetrics and Gynecology Public Recognition Award in 1992. Professor Simpson studied the following two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad :

"In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother's womb by forty days..."

"If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones..."
He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad . Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:

So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad ) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.

3) Dr. E. Marshall Johnson is Professor Emeritus of Anatomy and Developmental Biology at Thomas Jefferson University, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA. There, for 22 years he was Professor of Anatomy, the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy, and the Director of the Daniel Baugh Institute. He was also the President of the Teratology Society. He has authored more than 200 publications. In 1981, during the Seventh Medical Conference in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, Professor Johnson said in the presentation of his research paper:

Summary: The Quran describes not only the development of external form, but emphasizes also the internal stages, the stages inside the embryo, of its creation and development, emphasizing major events recognized by contemporary science.


Also he said: As a scientist, I can only deal with things which I can specifically see. I can understand embryology and developmental biology. I can understand the words that are translated to me from the Quran. As I gave the example before, if I were to transpose myself into that era, knowing what I knew today and describing things, I could not describe the things which were described. I see no evidence for the fact to refute the concept that this individual, Muhammad, had to be developing this information from some place. So I see nothing here in conflict with the concept that divine intervention was involved in what he was able to write.


) Dr. William W. Hay is a well-known marine scientist. He is Professor of Geological Sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, Colorado, USA. He was formerly the Dean of the Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science at the University of Miami, Miami, Florida, USA. After a discussion with Professor Hay about the Qurans mention of recently discovered facts on seas, he said:

I find it very interesting that this sort of information is in the ancient scriptures of the Holy Quran, and I have no way of knowing where they would come from, but I think it is extremely interesting that they are there and that this work is going on to discover it, the meaning of some of the passages. And when he was asked about the source of the Quran, he replied: Well, I would think it must be the divine being.


5) Dr. Gerald C. Goeringer is Course Director and Associate Professor of Medical Embryology at the Department of Cell Biology, School of Medicine, Georgetown University, Washington, DC, USA. During the Eighth Saudi Medical Conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Professor Goeringer stated the following in the presentation of his research paper:

In a relatively few aayahs (Quranic verses) is contained a rather comprehensive description of human development from the time of commingling of the gametes through organogenesis. No such distinct and complete record of human development, such as classification, terminology, and description, existed previously. In most, if not all, instances, this description antedates by many centuries the recording of the various stages of human embryonic and fetal development recorded in the traditional scientific literature.


6) Dr. Yoshihide Kozai is Professor Emeritus at Tokyo University, Hongo, Tokyo, Japan, and was the Director of the National Astronomical Observatory, Mitaka, Tokyo, Japan. He said:

I am very much impressed by finding true astronomical facts in [the] Quran, and for us the modern astronomers have been studying very small pieces of the universe. Weve concentrated our efforts for understanding of [a] very small part. Because by using telescopes, we can see only very few parts [of] the sky without thinking [about the] whole universe. So, by reading [the] Quran and by answering to the questions, I think I can find my future way for investigation of the universe"

7) Professor Tejatat Tejasen is the Chairman of the Department of Anatomy at Chiang Mai University, Chiang Mai, Thailand. Previously, he was the Dean of the Faculty of Medicine at the same university. During the Eighth Saudi Medical Conference in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, Professor Tejasen stood up and said:

During the last three years, I became interested in the Quran . . . . From my study and what I have learned from this conference, I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means. Since the Prophet Muhammad could neither read nor write, Muhammad must be a messenger who relayed this truth, which was revealed to him as an enlightenment by the one who is eligible [as the] creator. This creator must be God. Therefore, I think this is the time to say La ilaha illa Allah, there is no god to worship except Allah (God), Muhammadur rasoolu Allah, Muhammad is Messenger (Prophet) of Allah (God). Lastly, I must congratulate for the excellent and highly successful arrangement for this conference . . . . I have gained not only from the scientific point of view and religious point of view but also the great chance of meeting many well-known scientists and making many new friends among the participants. The most precious thing of all that I have gained by coming to this place is La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadur rasoolu Allah, and to have become a Muslim.




posted on Feb, 1 2003 @ 03:17 PM
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Illmatic67, your new motto is now : " there is no God but Allah. "

What happened ? Converted ?



posted on Feb, 1 2003 @ 03:20 PM
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satan knows the human body and how it works.

talking about the human body in relation to how it works is no miracle in any sense. why
do you think egyptians were that smart?

because they were guided by the intellect of satan which is what you see today
in the rising of technology.

once you fall from god you creat things aginst him and become a pagan world.

Illmatic, are you tellling me that all the healings, the stigmatas, the shroud, fatima, are all
fakes and the works of infidels?

satan cannot work miracles, he can work wonders and use his brains to fool men, what he cannot do
is what god can do which is supernatural events and miracles of curings which has happened in the church for
over nearly 2000 years.


Once we hit ww3 your leaders will rise up in a holy war against what they (think) are infidels. What
they think are christians are not.

will you rise up against all christians and kill them in the name of allah?

the saame one you rise up against you will come under at the seat for judgement and i hope you have more
sense than to kill with brute force all christians.

if i live during the antichrist i will be killed by the same ones who think they are doing allahs will when infact it will
be antichrist who guides them.


i hope to god you see the sign of christ.

peace.



posted on Feb, 1 2003 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by Truth

satan knows the human body and how it works.

talking about the human body in relation to how it works is no miracle in any sense. why
do you think egyptians were that smart?

because they were guided by the intellect of satan which is what you see today
in the rising of technology.

once you fall from god you creat things aginst him and become a pagan world.

Illmatic, are you tellling me that all the healings, the stigmatas, the shroud, fatima, are all
fakes and the works of infidels?

satan cannot work miracles, he can work wonders and use his brains to fool men, what he cannot do
is what god can do which is supernatural events and miracles of curings which has happened in the church for
over nearly 2000 years.


Once we hit ww3 your leaders will rise up in a holy war against what they (think) are infidels. What
they think are christians are not.

will you rise up against all christians and kill them in the name of allah?

the saame one you rise up against you will come under at the seat for judgement and i hope you have more
sense than to kill with brute force all christians.

if i live during the antichrist i will be killed by the same ones who think they are doing allahs will when infact it will
be antichrist who guides them.


i hope to god you see the sign of christ.

peace.


truth, youre the biggest idiot ive seen.

allah is the arabic word for god, go get a christian arabic bible and look around it

you're not worshipping your creator, you're worshipping jesus christ, and something cannot be the creator and created

as for you being a real chrsitian, ur not, cuz i sense hate towards islam, and what dos your religion say about hate?

yea i rest my case

u have no clu what islam is

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posted on Feb, 1 2003 @ 05:34 PM
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Im hatefull? But your calling me an idiot and judging me personally?

you hypocrite. what you have just done even goes against allahs teachings.

I know allah means god.

I believe Christ is god come in the flesh to be the new covanent and sacrafice.

Christ gave 2000 years and more of miracles to the human race, the only way we cannot believe is out of ignorance.

I love muslims and will pray for their conversion and will suffer for them but their religion is not of the lord.

Hate towards falsehood is not condemned by christ.

hate towards ((men)) is condemned by christ which many in the msulim and christians community have been guilty of.

peace.



posted on Feb, 1 2003 @ 09:19 PM
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Illmatic67, your new motto is now : " there is no God but Allah. "


your right, there's not. God, Allah, Yahweh, Elohim, Adonai= same God, different name.


satan knows the human body and how it works.


that sounds like the same stupid nonsense that truth character will say, oh wait, truth did say that. WHY AM I NOT SUPRISED

truth, everytime you say something with the phrase "satan did it" i put a point on the scoreboard for me cuz you have nothing else to say.. your a typical christian, if you cant win the conversation and you know your wrong just say satan did it because your right no matter what because your a christian and christians are always right, they're the only ones going to heaven and me and the rest of the world are wrong and we're going straight to hell, right?


Illmatic, are you tellling me that all the healings, the stigmatas, the shroud, fatima, are all
fakes and the works of infidels?


another example of a typical christian, putting words in someone's mouth to hold it against them... did i say that truth? NO! you think the only miracles are healings and signs in the sky... WRONG.. there's a lot more than that, herb.


Once we hit ww3 your leaders will rise up in a holy war against what they (think) are infidels. What
they think are christians are not.


and who are my leaders? man , shut the hell up truth, you have no idea who i am or what i am to say i have leaders..

and i guarantee you right now that the muslims have not started this holy war that is happening right now, christians have... the white house? yep.. the front for christian terrorism... ouch.. but the truth hurts so you wont acknowledge it.

what do we hear every day in the news? muslims that, muslims this.... THEY'RE TURNING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AGAINST ISLAM.

open ya eyes.



Christ gave 2000 years and more of miracles to the human race, the only way we cannot believe is out of ignorance.


and you dont believe in Mohammad's miracles because of that same ignorance.



posted on Feb, 1 2003 @ 09:52 PM
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"" shut the hell up truth ""

i can't talk to you no more man, you seriously have some hate problems
that do not come from gods teachings.

i guess your in the religion of god, and all in heaven will act like you which
would be hell.

ill pray for you but you have driven me out of these boards, theres just too much hate here.

peace.



posted on Feb, 1 2003 @ 10:05 PM
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truth, your really starting to piss me off everytime you try to put words into my mouth... and you think you know the whole world because your screen name is "truth"

this is like the 7th time you've said you were gonna leave this board and your still here.. talking about "the hate in here is so profound, it's making me dizzy talking to all you sinners, i dont belong here, i'm too good for you sinful people"

then leave, but ask yourself this question... what would jesus do? would he bet a little crying quitter like you? i dont think so.. and you call yourself a christian... to be christian is "christ-like" incase you didnt know/



posted on Feb, 1 2003 @ 10:14 PM
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I stay on here for new souls illmatic.

let me make one thing clear, i am sorry for ever using this user name because
of people thinking im the soul holder of truth.

I am not worthy of being around you unworthy sinners?

Im a massive sinner who has sinned majorly and am worthy to be around you guys.

But ive recently found other sites with much more grace and im going to stop getting into conversations
here because its so hatefull.

One more thing before im done with this topic..

what gives you the right to give me christ teachings?

when you are cursing and yelling at other people, and calling them herbs, nad telling them to
shut the **** up?

practice what you dish out.

peace and love.

[Edited on 2-2-2003 by Truth]



posted on Feb, 1 2003 @ 10:24 PM
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But ive recently found other sites with much more grace and im going to stop getting into conversations
here because its so hatefull.


then those sites must be the boringest religious message boards on the internet.. what do yall talk about ? "praise jesus" "yes , i agree, praise jesus"... some message board... there's no positive without a negative and that's what makes this message board above all others.


what gives you the right to give me christ teachings?


well for starters, how about someone who knows what he TAUGHT...i dont always follow what he taught but yea i do know stuff.... yea i curse, yea i call you a herb and i probably forever will.. but like you said, we're all sinners now arent we.



posted on Feb, 2 2003 @ 05:41 AM
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posted on Feb, 2 2003 @ 06:00 AM
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truth you really are annoying, trying to convert everyone. This site isn't for you to spout your BS. Frankly, you just don't seem credible. Not that Illmatic67 is any better, but your sheer volume of posts is uncalled for.



posted on Feb, 2 2003 @ 09:20 AM
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The Qur'an on the Origin of the Universe:

The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of smoke (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition). This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that smoke (see figures 10 and 11).



Figure 10: A new star forming out of a cloud of gas and dust (nebula), which is one of the remnants of the smoke that was the origin of the whole universe. (The Space Atlas, Heather and Henbest, p. 50.)



Figure 11: The Lagoon nebula is a cloud of gas and dust, about 60 light years in diameter. It is excited by the ultraviolet radiation of the hot stars that have recently formed within its bulk. (Horizons, Exploring the Universe, Seeds, plate 9, from Association of Universities for Research in Astronomy, Inc.)


The illuminating stars we see at night were, just as was the whole universe, in that smoke material. God has said in the Quran:

"Then He turned the heaven when it was smoke..." Sura 41:11

Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, the moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same smoke, we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous smoke, they formed and separated from each other. God has said in the Quran:

"Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them..." Suea 21:30


Dr. Alfred Kroner is one of the worlds renowned geologists. He is Professor of Geology and the Chairman of the Department of Geology at the Institute of Geosciences, Johannes Gutenberg University, Mainz, Germany. He said: Thinking where Muhammad came from . . . I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years, with very complicated and advanced technological methods, that this is the case.


Also he said: Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin.




ultra

have you read the 50,000 errors in the bible?



posted on Feb, 2 2003 @ 09:31 AM
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I hate to break it to you Illmatic, but this evidence is even more ambiguous than Nostradamus. The ' smoke ' as you call it was probably mohammed looking up at the Milky Way and the Larger and Smaller megallic Clouds. To link the obscure reference of ' smoke ', to Muhhamed's understanding the origins of the Universe is much more than far fetched, it's ridiculous. I'm curious what did he think the Moon and the Sun were ? You would think before knowing the origin of the Universe, he would know about the Moon and the Sun.



posted on Feb, 2 2003 @ 07:27 PM
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Actually the universe was never a "Cloud of smoke" especially by the definition of smoke.

It was a Hyper-gluon plasma, TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING, as MS would know.

Anyways, if you look at the metaphorical meaning of "cloud of smoke" you'd understand that he had no clue about anything of the universe.

The universe beginning as a cloud of smoke could simply mean ANYTHING! Especially concerning that no one at the time had any advanced knowledge of how gravity worked, and thus had no clue that a huge cloud of hydrogen could ever form the sun.

You're talking about people here who thought the sun was made of coal...please come up with GOOD miracles


Sincerely,
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