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reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 03:46 PM by Pimpish
reply to post by MarrsAttax


You're assuming a ton of stuff there. I don't know these people and have absolutely no way to verify if what they say is true. I have no way to even prove if the one poster is the nephew, and the other is the aunt...only what they say.

So, the only actual proof of anything that I have is the video, and that can definitely be faked. That is my only point.

Some things just make me wonder: There still has been absolutely no reason given for moving the horse. Even the nephew himself thinks that it is weird, and can give absolutely no reason for it. The only one I can think of, is to pull a prank. Why move it? So it can be near the door so that you can hide and manipulate whatever setup you have for moving the horse. If you look closely one side of the lower metal legs of the horse is actually over one of the doors, which I am going to assume is the closet since the man walked out of the other one. Would be a very minor thing to rig up some fishing string to the nose of the horse and run it down the metal and into the closet and use that to make the movements. Also despite what some people think, you could easily use tension on the line to stop the horse "on a dime".

This could very well be real. I have no idea. There is absolutely no way to prove or disprove it. That is my point and why it makes me laugh when people are so sure one way or the other. All you have are theories, conjectures, and outright guesses. The only one who knows for sure would be the man who set up the camera. He could swear on the bible up and down whether it is real, and even then all you can do is believe him, there is no way to prove whether he is telling the truth or not, including a lie detector which is not 100% accurate.

My personal opinion is that the dad was having some fun, I have no way to prove it. Just as no one else in this thread can prove that it wasn't just him having some fun. I just tend to go to the more reasonable explanation. Also I do not recall reading anywhere about his wife being terrified, but maybe I have a bad memory on that one. I do recall them saying she could always remember it and it brought chills. Even still, I have snuck up on my sisters many times and yell out "boo" or something and found it quite funny when they would jump four feet scared out of their wits.

There are a few other minor things that just make me wonder, but nothing that I could 100% point to and say yup, this is a hoax. This post is plenty long so I won't go into them, but all in all it just makes me feel like pops was having him some fun.



reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 03:59 PM by MarrsAttax
reply to post by Pimpish


I can't disagree with anything you've just said. I am far from being sure what it is I'm seeing on this video, although having watched it again I think I would actually rule out vibration being the cause - the movement just seems too deliberate.

You are right that I, as you, do not know anything about the OP and her family but my gut feeling is that if this is a hoax then DancedWithWolves and MethosWare are not the ones perpetrating it. Again I don't know this to be true, it just strikes me as the least likely explanation (even less likely than it being a real ghost!).

I agree that at this point any theory is just conjecture.


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 04:02 PM by Nola213
The REAL clincher here is WHY, set up the tape at dinner time, when your are gonna have the child in your view for the next couple hours? Your gonna waste tape. I assume he was ninja riding at night. So wouldn't ideal thing to do would be to put him to bed, THEN start the camera. I mean the entire premise debunks the video.

The moveing of the horse from it's usually play area, to an outside hallway, or some completely different room, that has "staged" written all over it. Why move the horse from where all these "ninja rides the young boy has made" to a different spot, and then film it. You completely tainted this little experiment up right there. The mythbusters would be most displeased =D

Also while haveing dinner with your son, and you hear -SQUEAK, SQUEAKY, SQUEAK, SQUEAKITY, SQUEAK!- Comeing from the room, why not run in there and investigate.

But everyone is free to believe this video if they choose of course, I choose not to.

btw- anyone saying you can not make this rocking horse make those movements with fishing line, obviously has never owned one. The tension on the springs can be adjusted as well.

Also, not to be a jerk, if your Father in the video has passed, or not around, whatever. It makes it hard for us to figure this out because we can't question the persona who took the footage, although IF this were a hoax, that is kinda convieniant isn't it? It may as well be, I got this video from a friend of a friend of a friend kinda deal, just raises more flags.

But thats my final say, I don't wish to hurt anyones feelings here. Or shatter hopes some may have read in the latest Sylvia Brown, or John Edwards book.

I wish you all the best of luck.


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 04:16 PM by Death_Kron
reply to post by Clark Savage Jr.


Apology accepted my friend, you did make me wonder for a minute if I was losing my marbles slightly! Just for the record I can honestly say that I didn't look at the video on youtube or its youtube comments.

I only scanned the video at first out of passing interest but the more I watched it and read the posts on this thread the more I watched it again and thats when I heard it.


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 04:16 PM by Pimpish
reply to post by MarrsAttax


I completely agree, I highly doubt any sort of vibration is causing that sort of deliberate movement.

I also agree with you that even if this is some sort of prank, or hoax, whatever you want to call it, that the op and the nephew are not in on it.

I could totally see my dad doing something similar though, and not revealing it for 15 years, or longer. They both said it was somewhat of a family legend, and I could see my dad telling stories about it for the longest, as if it was real, when in reality he pranked the entire family. Then having it become family legend, it would be a lot more fun to continue the prank rather than to tell everyone you did it.

Again, just my opinion, and no way to prove it. The only real issues I have with this thread all the people who are claiming that it could not be faked, or that it is definitely faked, because there does not seem to be enough proof either way to be 100% sure.

Fun vid and story though and I am glad the op posted it, either way (unless of course they were in on the prank, then boo ).


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 04:27 PM by mckyle
I've just gone through every single post as carefully as I can at six in the morning, and it's dawned on me that no one has considered the actual mindset of the father.

Yes, we do know the blurb that he wrote explaining the motivation, but that doesn't necessarily provide full insight into his rationale. What about the possibility that he was never really trying to catch his son out as he already expected that there was something/somebody else doing the rocking?

As a parent, you know what your child gets upto - certainly after having raised him for three years. So when he hears that strange rocking noise in the middle of the night, and has a pretty good idea that it's not his son doing it, then it's entirely plausible that he's not really concerned about capturing his son on vid, as he already suspects it's something else entirely rocking the horse.

This is what I suspect was his father's rationale, and the reason why the three year old can be heard playing with Dad while the video camera keeps rolling.

A sidenote: After reading the venomous and often non-sensical comments posted mostly by the skeptic crowd, I really feel embarrassed for the OP and his family. I still have trouble believing what I read! Some of the more vitriolic comments - while lacking in rational logic - more than made up for it with fear and desperation. What are you guys so worried about?? that in your darkest of dark nights, that maybe there is something else out there that's simply too scary to confront?

To DancedWithWolves and MethosWare: thank you so much for your warm, considered responses and for providing us with such a fascinating account


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reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 04:38 PM by mckyle
reply to post by Goathief


Excellent work Goathief.

The laughter appears to be made by an adult. Not a young child. Was that your thought?

That's funny that you say that about the TV being off, as I thought I could hear possibly two separate sources of laughter, as well as some sort of electronic sound emanating from what I assumed was the TV. But, no way am I positive about that. :/

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reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 05:18 PM by mckyle
reply to post by Goathief


The more I listen to that audio with the volume maxed out, the more chilling it becomes. I don't know what it is I'm hearing anymore, but some of the sounds seem possibly guttural, with a sinister, adult-sounding laugh/chuckle cutting in at the end.

I'm glad it's dawn now.



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I just listened to the processed one - much clearer. The hair on the back of my neck literally stood up.
There is a male speaking in a seemingly rough, guttural (uncouth?) manner and laughing at the end. Eerie.

Great work again Goathief

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reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 05:25 PM by Clark Savage Jr.
reply to post by Goathief


Excellent work, many thanks.

Also very strange. I have no idea.


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 05:25 PM by 7even
reply to post by Clark Savage Jr.


Nope, when I first viewed the video it was the embedded version on ATS, seeing that I was at work at the time of viewing I had my earphones on so no office noise to cause distraction. Shout or not, the word at 1:39 is coming from in the same room, strange that in the 3 approx minutes only the one word supersedes all other noises from outside the room - T.V Dad and son playing etc??

Secondly, I'm no expert on ghosts and their movement but you can clearly see that as the horse begins to rock it seems as if there is a slight pull downwards towards the front of the horse, IMO this may be the result of an attached string, wire what ever pulling the nose down from the front, initiating the rocking.

As I said in an earlier post, edited or not when the vide was converted why is the intial "press record" to the walking outside the room missing?

Say 5 - 10 secs at the most cut out??

Lastly the story is a little confusing, from catching the boy in the act to what is causing the horse to rock on it's own regardless of the boy being present or not... So which is it?

As some posters have stated, the camera of that era could record at say 2 hours tops? If originally set up when the boy goes to sleep it leaves a very small window of opportunity for any "results"

Luck...?


reply posted on 4-3-2009 @ 05:33 PM by mckyle
Originally posted by 7even
reply to post by Clark Savage Jr.


Lastly the story is a little confusing, from catching the boy in the act to what is causing the horse to rock on it's own regardless of the boy being present or not... So which is it?

We don't know for sure either way. i'm postulating that we've ignored to true rationale of the father taking the video in the first place. But, we need to ask Dad about this, so we can work off something more concrete.


As some posters have stated, the camera of that era could record at say 2 hours tops? If originally set up when the boy goes to sleep it leaves a very small window of opportunity for any "results"

Luck...?

Good question:
Maybe - depends on the frequency of the mysterious rocking. If it's rare, then obviously that raises some flags. But if it's a regular event, then maybe there's not so much luck involved.

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