Originally posted by phantomDX

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So......you agreed with that but insist that something else now is contradictory.

Just point out what it is and I'll address it.

Originally posted by Goathief
reply to post by phantomDX

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Look, you are contradicting yourself.

The crux of your argument was that the youtube video is the same quality as the original 8mm film.

That is patently not true.

Originally posted by phantomDX
reply to post by Teebs

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If you honestly believed that internet arguments were so inclined to be a measuring stick for ignorance not intelligence......then why are you a member of a site where controversy abounds? Why would you engage in the contest of ignorance yourself?

I assure you there is no better copy than the one you have seen.

Originally posted by phantomDX
reply to post by MarrsAttax

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I assure you there is no better copy than the one you have seen. The quality was on par for early 90's 8mm. There was no noticeable degradation due to being digitized. The only glitch was the distortion at the bottom of the vid which is common with tapes that have been (1. taped over many times (2. Been watched many times (3. and this is not likely, the distortion is caused by the tape needing to be blackburst first. 8mm is notorious for video dropouts and for having a bad shelf life. There are no 8mm to vhs adapters since 8mm runs diagonally. It is hard to find 8mm players outside of institutions or as old equipment used for archiving in the editing suites of production houses. You could buy a 8mm cam for around $100 dollars and dub it to vhs but digitizing it to dvd is the best option. But since they already have a digitized copy with as perfect as you are gonna get audio and video what's the sense?

Originally posted by HolgerTheDane

Originally posted by phantomDX
reply to post by MarrsAttax

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I assure you there is no better copy than the one you have seen. The quality was on par for early 90's 8mm. There was no noticeable degradation due to being digitized. The only glitch was the distortion at the bottom of the vid which is common with tapes that have been (1. taped over many times (2. Been watched many times (3. and this is not likely, the distortion is caused by the tape needing to be blackburst first. 8mm is notorious for video dropouts and for having a bad shelf life. There are no 8mm to vhs adapters since 8mm runs diagonally. It is hard to find 8mm players outside of institutions or as old equipment used for archiving in the editing suites of production houses. You could buy a 8mm cam for around $100 dollars and dub it to vhs but digitizing it to dvd is the best option. But since they already have a digitized copy with as perfect as you are gonna get audio and video what's the sense?

Just to show that I'm still here while I wait for the conclusion.
Yes you DO have adapters for 8mm. At my place of work we used to have an 8mm video camera and an adapter for playback on an ordinary VHS vcr.
The adaptor was a VHS sized tape box with a built in power supply (batteries) and it was inserted into the slot in the vcr as if it was any other tape.

Video8/Hi8's main drawback was that tapes made with Video8 camcorders could not be played directly on VHS hardware. Although it was possible to transfer tapes (using the VCR to re-record the source video as it was played back by the camcorder), this inevitably led to degradation of the analog signal.

Dropouts In Video8 and its successors, the smaller head drum and tape left recorders more susceptible to the effects of 'tape dropout', where magnetic-particles are eroded from the tape surface. As the audio/video signal is held in a smaller area on a Video8 tape, a single dropout has a more damaging effect. Hence, dropout compensation in Video8 systems tend to be more advanced to mitigate the format's vulnerability to dropouts. In this respect, VHS and Betamax's larger head drums prove advantageous.

Originally posted by phantomDX
reply to post by HolgerTheDane

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It happens man. I didn't mean to be so harsh with my rebuttal.

I've been contacted over the years by people who have come up with some really crazy homemade gadgets for all aspects of video editing. While most were intriguing and really great ways for someone without the money to get quasi pro results, they sometimes couldn't understand that their inventions only had merit in the no budget/low budget realm. There were far better ways to do it albeit expensive.

My point is.....it would not have surprised me that someone at your work might have tried to do just that it would not have worked but editors and vid techs can be a crafty bunch at times.

I don't mind answering any video tech or production questions or statements but I would like to point out that we are running the risk of completely getting off topic the further we get into it.