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Ghost Rides Rocking Horse (Video)

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posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 01:38 PM
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I'm not saying it's fake, but it looks like it is a different rocking horse in the scene where the people walk out of the room and close the door. Maybe not.

Notice around the point where the baby hurts his leg and says "oww", somewhere around 0.32. Does the rocking horse have one of it's front legs stretched outward as if in stride? Then in the second (spliced) scene the horse has both front legs bent inward as if jumping?

Why was the footage spliced? The footage of the baby on the horse seems like old video tape, and then footage starting when the people leave the room seems like new digital.

Interesting nonetheless and fun.



[edit on 7-3-2009 by Electro38]




posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 01:50 PM
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Firstly, don't remove the rest of my post so it appears my only reason was that the light was left on as that wasn't the case whatsoever.

Secondly, this was before any explanations were given by the people in the video - it was a fair point at the time as we were told the setup was intended to catch the child on the horse while he should be sleeping... if the light was off surely the boy would not be able to see either?!

Finally, read the whole damn thread - if you had you wouldn't have felt the need to reply to my old post.



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by Electro38
I'm not saying it's fake, but it looks like it is a different rocking horse in the scene where the people walk out of the room and close the door. Maybe not.

Notice around the point where the baby hurts his leg and says "oww", somewhere around 0.32. Does the rocking horse have one of it's front legs stretched outward as if in stride? Then in the second (spliced) scene the horse has both front legs bent inward as if jumping?

Why was the footage spliced? The footage of the baby on the horse seems like old video tape, and then footage starting when the people leave the room seems like new digital.

Interesting nonetheless and fun.



[edit on 7-3-2009 by Electro38]


The footage was spliced because at the time he didnt want to have x hours of nothing on there so when converting they cut it, but he is working on getting all of it when he gets the 8mm player.

To me they are the same rocking horse with its legs sorta like this one. Rocking Horse. Other people can watch and see what others opinions are



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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Does anyone in your family still live in that house?

The baby seems to be younger than 3, more like 2.

How old were you when your parents divorced?



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 03:01 PM
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Yeah, after looking some more it does seem like it is the same horsey in both scenes.

The old footage is very shadowy, my mistake.

[edit on 7-3-2009 by Electro38]



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 03:16 PM
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No one in my family still lives there no, but my mom does know the people who currently live there. I was 6 I think when my parents divorced I think Im not sure why thats relevant tho lol.

[edit on 7-3-2009 by MethosWare]



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 03:38 PM
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Also, I would like to point out that the sense of hearing is very susceptible to suggestion, and that when you listen to something repeatedly you WILL start to interpret what you are hearing differently.


I just want to point out that from the very first time I watched this video, which I watched embedded in the OP's post, and did not read a single comment on youtube, nor in this thread before I watched it, I clearly heard the word "wire" being whispered. Every single viewing since I have heard the same thing and it still boggles my mind that anyone could think that it is someone yelling from another room, when to me, it clearly is NOT.

I guess people just see/hear what they want to though.

I still haven't had anyone give me any sort of decent reason why the horse pauses a bit at about 2:45 before it goes back to neutral. Despite the many posts about "stopping on a dime" that is clearly not the case. The horse does a slight pause at about 2:45 when it stops rocking, before it goes back to neutral. Tensioning the line, perhaps?

But then again, maybe I am just seeing/hearing only what I want to see? Oh wait, I believe in ghosts and would love nothing more than for this video to be real...I just don't think that is the case.



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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Goathief,

You mentioned once that you could put a screen capture of the sound wavelengths up - that might be helpful - we may want to wait for the analysis when we have the HD version however - my understanding from my brother in law is that the original sound is much less compressed - whatever that means. I will leave the determination on when to do this up to you.

I still have not been able to bring myself to listen to the EVP you may have found - gives me the chills just thinking about the description of it. I will biggie up soon and listen though and thanks for posting this.

Peace.



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by MethosWare
reply to Electro38

No one in my family still lives there no, but my mom does know the people who currently live there. I was 6 I think when my parents divorced I think Im not sure why thats relevant tho lol.

[edit on 7-3-2009 by MethosWare]


Do you know if your parents were fighting/arguing, or if the environment in your house at that time was very stressful?

(Couples usually split up around the time when their kid goes to school, around age 5 or 6. I don't know why really, but I think it has something to do with the couple needing each other more when there is a baby to take care of.)

Do you have siblings?

Thanks.



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 06:48 PM
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Do you know if your parents were fighting/arguing, or if the environment in your house at that time was very stressful?

(Couples usually split up around the time when their kid goes to school, around age 5 or 6. I don't know why really, but I think it has something to do with the couple needing each other more when there is a baby to take care of.)

Do you have siblings?

Thanks.

I dont think my parents were arguing, when my dad walks out you can hear him say hey teresa, before she leaves on an errand. I have siblings now but at the time no he wasnt born yet.



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 07:45 PM
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I just watched this for the first time ... I have listened to it 10 or so times with headphones on.

Definitely someone in the other room.

I just listen to it again and what you are hearing is a conversation between the child and the dad in another room.

You can hear the effect of the echo or natural reverb from the room on the voice

If you pay attention to the whole conversation you will hear, very clearly, that the word that sounds like "wire" has identical audio qualities the the rest of the dads voice throughout the conversation.

The dad is almost shouting the word "wire" ... kinda like a James Brown impersonator.

Any audio expert will tell you that that is definitely not a whisper and is definitely not coming from the same room.

Hey DWW! ... thanks for posting the vid


[edit on 7/3/09 by Horza]

[edit on 7/3/09 by Horza]



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 07:54 PM
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Luckily I trust my ears more than I trust an audio expect. The tonal qualites of the "yell" were quite a bit different and it was clearly (to me) a whisper from behind the mic.

My dad had almost the identical camera back in 1992, and I have many videos even today of me playing sports from high school, and he is quite a bit louder than anything you hear in front of him. Also, its very easy to tell when he is yelling and when he's just talking to someone sitting next to him.

If you choose to believe it's someone in the next room yelling, then what can I say? We are hearing two different things. Even if that is someone in the other room yelling, I still think the video is a fake, and someone whispering wire next to the camera was NOT the only reason I did not think it was real.

Still no one has bothered to explain to me why at about 2:45 when the horse is going to stop rocking which it does "on a dime" according to multiple people in here, the horse stops first in a slightly forward position, then it slowlly goes back to neutral. That is NOT stopping on a dime. Someone is tensioning a line there. Also no one has answered my question as to why the horse was moved from its original position in the video, why it was put in front of the closet, or why the date stamp was turned off.

That is just my idea though and yours differs. I try not to have beliefs, as I loved that quote from Dogma, and think it's quite true: "I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a belief is trickier."

Most people in this thread seem to either have a belief or not in ghosts, and that colors their viewing of the clip. I have an idea that ghosts exist, I've seen some weird things, and experienced some weird things. I don't think this particular video is proof of anything other than a horse moving by an unknown means.

You seem to lean towards the supernatural, I happen to lean towards the natural.



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 08:02 PM
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Hi, I'm just wondering if two cameras were used, as until 35seconds of the video of recording the the child playing on the horse, the video camera has a date 3 Feb 1992 on it.

My question is, why is there not date during the recording of the rocking horse in an attempt to “catch” their young son sneaking into the room? Considering this was recorded in 1992, I highly doubt you could change the options of the video camera to not have the date interface appearing in the videos. (Please anyone, correct me if I'm wrong).

If another video camera was used, why go through the trouble?

To the people who argue that a long time poster wouldn't risk their credibility, it is you that are quick to judge that it is real. Just because someone's a long time poster doesn't make all his posts true or credible at all.

Can anyone please clarify if two cameras were used or if the date showing option was changed.



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 08:08 PM
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If I remember correctly, even way back that in ancient times of 1992, there was a button on the side of the camera to cycle the display. I believe that you could make it say nothing, the date, or the date and time. For some reason the date was switched off for the second vid, still no explanation for that.

Personally the way we used to do our home videos was we would hit the display button so it came up with the date/time for a moment, then turn it off. That way you knew what day it was filmed and such, but the display wasn't clogging up all those awesome home videos of kids doing boring stuff



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 08:18 PM
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Cheers for that! Exactly, I assumed that it is most likely you would want the date/time for moments you would like to remember. So why would they remove the date/time during the recording?



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 08:29 PM
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There is something about the hobby horse video that I do not think people have noticed. Just a few seconds before it starts to move it pulls to the left side of the horse. This looks to me as if something or someone climbing on it.

Arxangel



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 08:29 PM
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Yes, you were told correct - the sound will not be compressed by the youtube encoding. I can't wait to compare the two - hopefully it'll make things a lot clearer.


Thanks once again for sharing this video, it's fascinating.



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 09:07 PM
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm curious how you come to that conclusion. You see it move to the left a bit, so you assume it's a ghost getting on it. Why could it not be someone manipulating it with a string of some type, which is conveniently, to the left of the horse (technically, the horse's RIGHT side, but our left).

This is what throws me off, you see something, and then automatically assume it's a ghost getting on. Why could it not be the more mundane explanation? Again, I am not necessarily disagreeing with you, I just want to know your logic for making that assumption.

*EDIT* I'm not really sure which side of the horse you are referring to, our left, or its...either way, theres a door there though, so why the leap in logic straight to ghost? Just curious.

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posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by Pimpish

Luckily I trust my ears more than I trust an audio expect. The tonal qualites of the "yell" were quite a bit different and it was clearly (to me) a whisper from behind the mic.


Well I would argue that your ears are wrong on this one and luck has nothing to do with it.

I have 10 years experience working with audio recording. I specialised in making digital recording in small home studio's sound like they are being recorded in much bigger spaces. From this experience I have learnt that there are a number of qualities that allow someone to deduce how and where a piece of audio was recorded.

I would bet money that this is definitely an audio of someone speaking from another room.

Whether or not this is the original audio or the audio of the someone speaking from another room has been added to the video I do not know.

100% for sure this is not a whisper.


Originally posted by Pimpish

You seem to lean towards the supernatural, I happen to lean towards the natural.



I mention nothing about the supernatural in my post so please don't try to make me out as being a bias "believer".

I am completely open minded about the subject of ghosts.

I lean towards the evidence.

As far as this audio goes, the evidence points very strongly away from a person whispering the word "wire" from the same room as the camera.

Did you listen to this with headphones on? Even with my little ipod headphones I could distinguish the characteristics of the vocals in the audio.

Try out a pair of noise cancelling headphones.

For the record, I think this could easily be a hoax but I am not willing to call it that just yet.

I remain open minded.



posted on Mar, 7 2009 @ 11:44 PM
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My apologies on the "believer" part, I got that post mixed with another...so many pages.

Yes, I listened with my headphones. I listened with my speakers. I listened on my internal laptop speakers, I listened on my external laptop speakers. I listened with my mother's speakers, I listened on my mother's headphones and she has some bose noise cancelling crap because of her job. Every single time it has sounded like a whisper from behind the mic.

I would normally defer to the years of experience, but in this case I just can't imagine why in the world you would think its a yell from the other room. I have listened to that thing at least 20 times, and every single time it has sounded like a whisper. On multiple computers, with multiple speakers, and with multiple headsets. No offense intended, and please don't take it that way, but I trust my ears and I know what I'm hearing. If you can prove to me otherwise, I will gladly grab a big huge bite of humble pie. I don't see that happening though.

Really that is a minor point anyway, as the word wire had little to none to do with why I think the video is a fake. So even if you do manage to prove that it's a yell from another room, I will STILL think the video is a fake due to multiple reasons I have already posted, and multiple questions that have not been answered.

Why did he turn off the date time stamp? Why was the horse moved, and why moved to that particular spot, with a door on either side? The video would be much more believable to me if the horse was in the same spot as the first portion, no doors to run any strings of any type under, no doors to possibly hide a person, or some sort of contraption to move the horse.

So, if you still feel like wasting your time trying to prove to me that the word wire was a yell from another room, feel free...even if you do, I will still feel the video is a fake due to these other factors.

At any rate, even if it is someone yelling wire from the other room, it could still just as easily be a signal/warning that someone is going to start manipulating a wire, so even if you do manage to prove it's a yell from the other room, it doesn't mean much in the end.

I believe in ghosts. I do not believe this video.



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