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posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:02 AM
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Sometimes NWO=A Global view of issues or Sometimes NWO=Global conspiracy theory I have to smile, people always see what they want to see. There is always a Lion in the grass but in reality its just a rocks shadow.

NWO = Global view of issues? Sorry, that statement doesn't even make sense.. The New World Order is much more than a "view of issues," its an international economic, government, and military network. It already exists to some extent in the form of the UN, the IMF, The World Bank, the E.U, NATO, etc.

The New World Order is synonymous with globalization, or more accurately, Globalization is the vehicle that will bring in the NWO. Do you believe in globalization? Or are you going to tell me that globalization is a rock's shadow, or that it "= a global view of issues?"

What is the end result of globalization? It can only be one government, one economy, one military, one New World Order. If this doesn't happen, then the world isn't truly "globalized."

Why do I have a problem with this? Well, for a rather large chunk of the world, globalization has brought nothing but poverty, oppression, and death. It is not about the people of different countries cooperating to solve the worlds problems, it is about international corporations sucking the wealth and resources of a country dry, and then moving on to the next one. Only the rich get any benefit.

Do you believe in international corporations? Or are they just a "rocks shadow?"

The NWO "conspiracy theorists" know that there are an elite few who control these international corporations and international governing bodies, and use them for their own purposes of expanding wealth and power. These people have a history of making decisions that will get them rich at the expense of the common man while telling him its for his own good. That is what makes it a conspiracy.

Can you admit that these people exist, or are would you claim they are just a rock's shadow that = a global view of issues?




posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:04 AM
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While I do not think the recent "crises" have been manufactured or are part of a grand, multi- or super-administration plan, I am certain that there are many who have the power and wherewithal to capitalize on them toward a bigger agenda.

Most of success is dependent upon being "ready" for opportunities as they arise. Why waste resources with subterfuge, when all you have to do is be watchful and take advantage of a crisis; natural (Katrina), man-made (WTC), or contrived ("Anthropogenic" Global Warming)?

Throw in the fiscal crises, and you have opportunities everywhere, whether you created them (doubtful, in my opinion) or they arise on their own?

The North American Union began with NAFTA and the Superhighway/Corridor currently under spotty construction.

The worldwide financial problems open the door for expansion into a Global New Deal and the Int'l Criminal Court, the Int'l Environmental Court, and coming soon to a former Republic near you, a New World Order.

Pieces of a puzzle and falling dominoes.

One border at a time!



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:13 AM
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I dont get understand the problem here.

To hard to enforce check's on the truck driver's?

But we do this every day already with airplane's...
Pilot's from every country in the world fly in our country bringing visitors ect...and cargo sometimes.

Stuff allways happen's accident's ...9/11's..ect
But to say There is no way to enforce law's..is another..we do it everyday already.



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:13 AM
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The worlds already globalized to a high degree, we are all free range slaves, there's already no place to escape. People are comforted by the the illusion of freedom, because you can always move right? Yep, too another slave camp that is.
Slavery didn't die out it was simply transformed, Just like animals, people are more productive if they have the illusion of freedom (free range). Happy slaves are productive slaves. So any attempt to tighten the leash on the slaves will, and is resulting in unrest, which is detrimental to productivity. So it is doomed to fail.
But sadly the slaves spirits are broken their minds clouded, so further pressure could be still be applied with the right conditioning.
God help them if people united, I'd love to have global bank run day, bring the system crashing down and spur on the archaic revival.
That would show them who the real power is.

Only problem is some people have been too domesticated and specialized to survive without the system, and most people are scared to death of that thought. Me, I'm praying for it, because there are no masters without the slaves, only truly free people.



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:18 AM
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I really don't think they're using the term 'NWO' in a sense that most of us on here would recognise. I think, instead, it's much more rational to see it being used as a term for a complete paradigm shift away from the old market policies and ideology.



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
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"A door once opened can be stepped through in either direction."


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We need to turn around and say NO! We need to come up with a better idea, an idea that will benefit the many rather than the few, any idea that will empower us rather than them and we need to make sure people know, that there isn't only one way.

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We have the technology and the capabilities to challenge their system. We've had it for several years! (if not decades) There have been some attempts at liberating the concept of money from government by the few in the past. Check on Yodelbank as an example.
Problem is, that in our current society ('til now) the peoples trust lay solely with the banks. We can all see how that turned out

This economic crisis could actually be just what we need inorder to free ourselves from the banking/government stronghold.
Apart from converting to a pure resource based economy, (hard to implement after centuries of brainwashing) we could strive to implement an ungoverned electronic monetary system as is suggested in The End of Ordinary Money.
(certainly an interesting and hilarious read:lol



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:37 AM
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The mainstream media must have these Corporate mouthpieces talking about the New World Order and North American Union to make some Americans fearful and others distracted while they continue their plan to bankrupt us.

Timeline of Bankruptsy:

9/11: Major financial hits on Insurance
$40 Billion

9/11: Airline bailout congressional package
$5 Billion +

Afghanistan & Iraq: financial wheels of war
$2.7 Trillion at end of 2008

Then "they" tried to start a war with Iran because they knew that the first two wars and 9/11 were not doing enough damage to our financial sector. But the military and public fought against a war with Iran so "they" had to recalculate their options.

Bankers Bailout - Preplanned Wall Street Collapse
5 Trillion + and no public info accounting for where it went

2 straight months showing over a half a million+ American's jobs lost.

What they are doing is destroying our Nation from the inside out.

Ron Paul said it best:

"If 9/11 was planned and orchestrated by Osama bin Laden, the United States Government is doing and giving him exactly what he wanted, bankrupting the United States and thinning our military resources like he did with Russia."

Its was all pre-planned - all of it!

Is anyone waking up yet? They really want to be your savior and finish the creation of the North American Union and the new Global Government and currency.

Get your mark...oops... I mean "RFID CHIP" today.

You won't be able to buy or sell without it.

Hey, where have I heard that before? What a Revelation

[edit on 4-3-2009 by arizonascott]



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:39 AM
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I am thankful that people like Dobbs and Beck are finally starting to see the light or I should say the impending darkness.

What I fear is that it may be too late. We may be beyond a point of no return.

This radical agenda is not new and this isn't the first time this has happened. Every major crisis becomes an excuse to implement their ideals. This goes back to the 1800s when the original Old World Order of nobility and clergy was upset by liberals and radicals with revolution.

Two theories emerged out of that chaos, one of violent revolutionary socialism, from Karl Marx, which gave us entities like the USSR and the PRC. The other strain is Evolutionary Socialism, from Eduard Bernstein, which has given us the European Union and Barack Obama.

This Global New Deal is the continued evolution and implementation of a radical ideology going back almost 200 years. Its not going to give us a socialist Global Union overnight but it will lay the foundation for it.



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by MEATPIE
globalization can be stopped ,how, well you see theres this thing that nobody seems to know too much about,its called democracy and when its working properly, you get this, in australia starting from today ,all major chemical companies,monsanto,duponte,ect,and their workforce and distributors are now FAIR GAME .
IF YOU WORK IN ANY AREA OF ANY OF THESE COMPANIES ,INCLUDING FUEL TRANSPORT COMPANIES,ANYONE HAVING ANY INVOLMENT ,DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY,WITH THE MANUFACTURING OF FERTILIZERS AND OR FLUORIDE ,ANYONE DIRECTLY OR,,INDIRECTLY,EMPLOYED OR OTHERWISE BY HAARP FACILITIES AROUND THE WORLD,ANYONE DELIVERING HERBICIDES AND INCECTISIDES,AIREAL SPRAYING OF ANYSORT ,,,,WILL AN ARE, FAIR GAME


Fair game for what?

Are you implying illegal activities?

-rrr



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Jazzyguy
reply to post by W3RLIED2
 
So now Obama is NWO, fine, fine. As far as I know Dobbs and Beck never said bush is NWO. ...

I'm gonna guess who's going to cry NWO next, hannity, limbaugh, o'reilly, coulter, malkin, the whole shebang.


Seems to me international opinion was that Bush acted too unilaterally, without input or consent from the rest of the WO. Even the MSM complained about his "isolationism."

As far as Dobbs and Beck are concerned, they seem to say what they feel regardless of the network hosting them and certainly without regard to any political correctness.

The liberal/progressive/Dem mindset will only perceive facts through Obama-colored glasses, though.

The truth hurts sometimes when you are afraid to face it.

Deny Ignorance!

jw

[edit on 4-3-2009 by jdub297]



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by W3RLIED2
Lou Dobbs said Obama & Brown = New World Order. I'm shocked this is on CNN. Watch it. I'll get source links later. this is happening NOW!


What are you even talking about? a link would have been helpful. I watched Obama and Brown on CNN and at no point did they say that they are going to take us all to deathcamps or implant chips or gradually reduce our rights, or any of the negative effects of NWO, nor anything remotely implying so. They did talk about the global banking system. is that ..... IT ???

-rrr



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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Lou Dobbs has been warning of NWO for years.


(posted two years ago)


(posted five months ago)

Lou has been very outspoken against the NWO. The MSM doesn't like to cover it but Lou doesn't care.



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Nifron
Tonight on Lou Dobbs - video Link


I don't get it. Who is moving ahead? How does congress not know?

Where are the names of the people?

[edit on 093131p://bWednesday2009 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 09:56 AM
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They don't have to say it - look around - it is as obvious as the nose on your face. Globalism - NWO - NAU, its all right there!

Why is it that now at a time where we are bankrupt and are going into a Socialist Totalitarian Regime - that the Fed's are attacking farmers, which is really our last manufacturing & production sector as well as our natural foods/supplements.

The food supply is next

Do all of the sheep just continue to deny until everything actually happens?



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 10:00 AM
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New World Order

All you have to do is trace the bloodline of these Illuminati Luciferian controllers.

All you have to do is trace family trees like;

Rockefellers, Rothschild, Bush, Cheney and evan Obama

Find how these inbred Elite families and their relatives infultrated Government systems going back a few hundred years and you will - have your names and know the truth.



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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I think your spot on about Bush. Cheney, Bush, Rove, and Rumsfeld were unilateralists. These were the guys promoting an American World Order, not a Socialist Global Union.

They were the other side of the equation, whose roots can be traced all the way back to the true Conservatives of the 1800s. The original Conservatives in Europe were the Nobility and the Clergy. This same relationship can still be seen. Corporate "Nobility" and the relationship with the religious right are modern parallels.

Before this is all over with many people may come to realize that the Bush administration was truly the last American administration, in the sense they put American interests and security above and beyond the rest of the world. Their methods may of been quite utilitarian, e.g. ends justify the means, but they stood for America not the World.



[edit on 4/3/09 by MikeboydUS]



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 10:25 AM
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In his book Social Theory and Social Structure, he conceives of a bank run at the fictional bank of Cartwright Millingville. It is a typical bank, and Millingville has run it honestly and quite properly. As a result, like all banks, it has some liquid assets (cash), but most of its assets are invested in various ventures. Then one day, a large number of customers come to the bank at once—the exact reason is never made clear. Customers, seeing so many others at the bank, begin to worry. False rumors spread that something is wrong with the bank and more customers rush to the bank to try to get some of their money out while they still can. The number of customers at the bank increases, as does their annoyance and excitement, which in turn fuels the false rumors of the bank's insolvency and upcoming bankruptcy, causing more customers to come and try to withdraw their money. At the beginning of the day—the last one for Millingville's bank—the bank was not insolvent. But the rumor of insolvency caused a sudden demand of withdrawal of too many customers, which could not be answered, causing the bank to become insolvent and declare bankruptcy. Merton concludes this example with the following analysis:

“ The parable tells us that public definitions of a situation (prophecies or predictions) become an integral part of the situation and thus affect subsequent developments, This is peculiar to human affairs. It is not found in the world of nature, untouched by human hands. Predictions of the return of Halley’s comet do not influence its orbit. But the rumored insolvency of Millingville’s bank did affect the actual outcome. The prophecy of collapse led to its own fulfillment.[1]


Self-fulfilling prophecy

en.wikipedia.org...

The Meme has been planted, the mind virus,

It is everywhere, Hollwierd bombards us with end of the world scenarios and apocalyptic dramas, we have been waiting for the end, since the beginning, But all these things are only the beginning of the birth pains."

Babel was called the "beginning"


"Then they said, 'Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves; otherwise we shall be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.'" (Genesis 11:4). God, seeing what the people were doing, confounded their languages and scattered the people throughout the earth.

Millenium pass, kings and kingdoms rise and fall.

The "The prince of the power of the air" (Ephesians 2:2)., arrives on the sceen
Satan must employ his "rhetorical ability" to organize his followers;

"justify the ways of God to men." Satan, Beelzebub, and the other rebel angels are described as lying on a lake of fire, from where Satan rises up to claim hell as his own domain and delivers a rousing speech to his followers

"Better to reign in hell, than serve in heav'n.

Paradise Lost

Of man's first disobedience, and the fruit
Of that forbidden tree, whose mortal taste
Brought death into the world . . . .
Sing heav'nly Muse . . .
. . . what in me is dark
Illumine; what is low, raise and support;
That, to the height of this great argument,
I may assert Eternal Providence
And justify the ways of God to men.
Paradise Lost, Book I.


[edit on 103131p://bWednesday2009 by Stormdancer777]



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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Despite the fact that I believe all of this NWO stuff to be complete bull #, since there is no actualy proof that any of it is happening, Whats wrong with globalization? I constantly hear people screaming the end is nigh when I dont see what the problem with globalization is?

If anything, to me, it sounds like it would benefit everyone. Finally all those poor defenseless people in all those worn torn and economicly destroyed countries would get a shot at a new life...



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by rickyrrr

What are you even talking about? a link would have been helpful. I watched Obama and Brown on CNN and at no point did they say that they are going to take us all to deathcamps or implant chips or gradually reduce our rights, or any of the negative effects of NWO, nor anything remotely implying so. They did talk about the global banking system. is that ..... IT ???

-rrr


Did you expect them to say any of those things? If you were going to try to take over 100 people with only 2 would you tell the 100 people that was your plan?

Why do corporations and advertisers use "fine print"? Do you think it is to be honest and up front? If so why not just post this information in regular print? They know that people in general are too lazy to read the fine print so they hide the true and damaging information there and few people ever notice it.

The governments are no different, they leave the clues (fine print) all over the place like the FEMA camps. And they rely on the same tactic as the advertisers do, they bank on the people not noticing the fine print and those that do are easily discredited as conspiracy theorists.

"Let us not tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories." Remember that quote from George W. Bush?

Why would a person even need to say something like that unless they had something to hide? If there is nothing to hide, wouldn't you welcome investigations and even provide every piece of information requested from you without hesitation? The events of 9-11 are obviously not areas of national security protection otherwise 9-11 wouldn't have happened or at least not all of the events anyway. So there is no legitimate reason for not providing the information and refusing to testify for any length of time.

A little common sense and the willingness to read the fine print will pretty much set you free from the world you think you live in.



posted on Mar, 4 2009 @ 10:34 AM
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Remember, when your NWO, your NWO 4 Life....sorry, couldn't resist :-)






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