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I worked in the mental health field at the time and there were a lot of people that were on psychiatric units that were being convinced that they were victims of "ritualistic abuse" by accredited mental health professionals.... A lot of life's were ruined by those people.
Originally posted by DangerDeath
Hey, Ive heard actors speak like this many times.
They say, once they get into the costume, they are completely different person!
Originally posted by Mr Green
Originally posted by DangerDeath
Hey, Ive heard actors speak like this many times.
They say, once they get into the costume, they are completely different person!
For cult members I dont think its as easy as just removing one set of clothes and putting on another. But yes I have heard that actors remain in character for the duration of say a play even when they are at home as its just easier that way. then at the end of the plays run they return to their real self but often find this difficult for the first few weeks.
Originally posted by DangerDeath
Wearing a three piece suit is the same kind of "accomplishing identity"
Love your avatar btw, Im a fan! ( see my signature and you should know why with an avatar like that )
You know the sort of thing you just would NOT dare go out in
Originally posted by Mr Green
Originally posted by DangerDeath
Wearing a three piece suit is the same kind of "accomplishing identity"
Why do cults almost always seem to have some strange or freeky dress sense anyway? Im thinking robes here mainly but Im sure there are many, its just you think cult you think strange dress. You know the sort of thing you just would NOT dare go out in (or have I been watching too many devil worship films here )
[edit on 3-3-2009 by Mr Green]
Originally posted by DangerDeath
It has to be some kind of trigger, a "spirit catcher", something to push you into certain mode. And also extract you from some "ordinary" mode, make you "different".
Basically, those robes are uniforms, a sign of belonging, order, single mindedness, etc.
Hi would it be really off topic for me to ask you to explain in simple terms what the archetypes of humanity are? Sorry if its something everyone else knows about but Ive seen them posted of before and all I seemed to get was shapes? Are they shapes? I re read your post and I cant see any reference to them directly.
Originally posted by hypervigilant
The word "cult" seemed to mean something entirely different than the presently accepted definition. ... Remember when rock bands, certain sports cars, motorcycling, bicycling and anything of interest to a small minority was said to have a "cult following"....
Originally posted by hypervigilant
I think that it was in the eighties that there became confusion between the words"cult " and "occult" in minds of the "religious right"... During this period there were Psychiatrist writing books on Satanism, Witchcraft, ritualistic child abuse and occult practitioners such as Free Masons and even religions that deviated from mainstream practices.... I worked in the mental health field at the time and there were a lot of people that were on psychiatric units that were being convinced that they were victims of "ritualistic abuse" by accredited mental health professionals.... A lot of life's were ruined by those people.
Originally posted by Skyfloating
With some groups you notice the subtle beginnings of a cult when they start feeling better than others, start using their own specialized vocabulary and definitions and dont take scrutiny very well.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
reply to post by DangerDeath
Remember: all religions start out as "cults" to the vast majority of the population.
Christianity started out as a "cult" in Pagan dominated Rome.
I have attended Bahai meetings and an old friend of mine used to embrace that faith.
As a spiritual medium back in the 1980s, I also at times channeled Bahai energies (guides).
I refer to them as a benign or benevolent cult because they are not a mainstream religious organization, yet also not inherently evil like the malevolent or destructive cults I listed.
Originally posted by Mr Green
reply to post by SS,Naga
Hi SS,Naga did you miss this or did you feel it was off topic? Thanks.
Originally posted by karl 12
Zysin 5 posted this great short film dealing with the techniques employed to
manipulate,control,indoctrinate,condition and brainwash cult members.
Its a good watch
Cheers
[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]
Also,hyper sensitivity/childish insecurity towards any criticism of group opinion (reinforced by violent action) is also indicative of an unhealthy and dangerous 'cult mentality'.
Originally posted by DangerDeath
Okay, we stick to "cultivating" meaning of the word cult.
Early Christianity is different from institutional Christianity (starting with Constantine proclaiming it a state religion).
In early Christianity there was no vertical hierarchy, it was a "horizontal" community. They were all equal and there was no distribution of power among them. They had teachers in the same manner Jesus was considered a Teacher.
Originally posted by DangerDeath
I think this horizontal organization was the main reason they were prosecuted, simply because they didn't recognize authority as of "this" world.
That changed with the work of Roman agent Saul (St. Paul) who organized them into a church, thus "organizing" them vertically, and later they "advanced" and "entered" history.
Originally posted by DangerDeath
Organizing Christians simply meant establishing control over them.
Originally posted by DangerDeath
As of Baha'i, I only met one of them, long time ago. He was kind of globe trotter missionary, walking barefooted, and I was in high school then. He impressed me so much (not that I understood why), but "he" comes back to me more and more of lately - I guess I have advanced to his spiritual level and we are now pretty close
And I base my judgment of them just on that experience. But it is quite accurate?