Originally posted by headlightone
Oh well back to living in the NOW again the mind needs more than one point to work between. The 2 points are represented by time.
In the NOW their are no 2 points to travel between therefore no time.
Mind needs Time
In the Now no Time
No Time No Mind
No Mind ,No Mind To Control
Or something like that, trouble is try spreading the message not easy .

Originally posted by DangerDeath

Actually, the "empty mind" is similar to the state of nirvana (or nibbana in Pali). Nirvana means "asphyxiation". Cessation of all wish, perception, thoughts, etc.

Originally posted by Mr Green


Not an easy state to reach. I had always wondered what Nirvana meant. Its one thing attempting to live in the now, it seems a totally different state to reach when nirvana is realized.

Have you experienced it? Is it only reached in deep meditation? Or does it become a way of being?

Originally posted by IamNow


It seems to me that people love to anylize pages and pages of information to gain an understanding of something, something’s in life you have to experience through insight to gain true understanding.

You can run information through the mind all day and the only thing you gain is attachments. Attachments to what you may ask? Words, Emotions, Feelings, beliefs, predictions…. The list goes on. Now you’re creating your own problems/obstacles due to your own programming “your own analysis” you create a future that hasn’t happened yet, you create your own illusion.

Don’t run away from your mind and don’t let your mind run away from you, the mind is a brilliant tool when you use it in the “Now” the moment the mind slips into the past or future, is the moment you become attached to something in the past or future. Drop it, let go and become present.

I hear people say time after time “It’s too hard to become present in the now, it’s too hard to become aware” when in reality the only hard part is letting go of that belief, letting go of that attachment. It’s a lot harder analyzing pages and pages of information than it is to become aware, not many people believe me because they are not ready to drop that belief.

Originally posted by violet
Back to the music, another thought:

Certain Artists (lead singers usually) have a particular type of fanbase that can become very cult-like in their behaviour. The fans compete who's the #1 fan, some will sabatauge other fans, while others bond and love one another, but each has the ultimate goal of getting close to the artist and being noticed by the artist. Many of the fans will fantasize they will eventually meet their Idol and become lovers or best friends. Some go as far to begin to believe they've met this idol in a dream, past life or just have a "mystical connection". I'm not talking about extreme cases where an obsessed fan becomes dangerous, that's another topic. This is very real and an astonishing fact if you ever get into this part of the music industry to learn how deep this goes.

[edit on 15-3-2009 by violet]

Originally posted by DangerDeath

Each projection must be "toured about". We have to examine it before we abandon it. It is wrong to run away from it. The trick is to do it very fast, in a matter of seconds or less than that.

And you can do it only if you are perfectly clear about what is what. Very simple, but one must practice it at all times (now)

Originally posted by Nichiren
I'm involved with a certain TV show. We have the British group Take That on the show tonight. Their fan base is amazing. There's teenagers camping out in front of the venue. Definitely cult-like ;-)

The group is great, though. They're very decent lads.

How the obvious escaped you is a tedious story. The abridged version of it amounts to this: You embraced fear. After that unholy act, it has been downhill ever since. Fear is the first lie, the lie that tells you that you are separated from the whole. Once it has been embraced, you are incapable of ever telling the truth under any circumstances without blowing the game.

Truth, by its nature, is the light. Fear cannot, by its nature, be in the light without dying. It becomes a simple matter of self interest. Fear has owned this planet, its people, and their systems for a long time. It does not wish to give up the property it has acquired because it is a parasitic life form that cannot live separated from your life forces.

The truth is, you are the truth. It is not external to you, as you have been led to believe. For that reason, it is ludicrous to set out on a spiritual journey in search of it. It is likewise ridiculous to punish those who do not practice it when almost nobody on this planet does. As for philosophizing over it, how can you when you wouldn't recognize it if it ran over you in the street? Meanwhile, measuring it is done in your attempt to dominate it, leading you further into the lie that it lives outside of you like an enemy that must be controlled. To exalt it is also to see it as separate. And fighting over it is so absurd as to not deserve our comment at all.

The totality of your clinically insane behavior surrounding truth has been cleverly manipulated by fear in its attempt to keep your eyes off the truth. In this manner, fear was able to continue uninterrupted and undetected in its process of eating you alive. But don't worry -- there is a cure. All you need do is awaken to the fact that you are the truth. As the light comes on, the parasite will die, leaving you joyously able to reclaim command.

Originally posted by violet

Mr Green never acts this way, and I hope that I can take some pointers and learn how to be more considerate of other's feelings in the future.