ECON: Working women almost certainly caused the credit crunch

reply to post by orangetom1999


I know some of those kids that mom and dad have told to grow up and move out, ya know what, from what I've seen, they aren't growing up!! they are finding little party hotspots around town, and going from place to place and crashing for the night!!

as far as the breast bit....well, sorry, but it's been pretty much tradition since the beginning of time, ya know, marry them off at an early age, so they have a new breast/wallet to replace the original ones....
only now, the seem to be bypassing the marriage part....

and well, as far as the "entitlement" bit....
we have a houseful of guys living across the street from us, by the language they speak and the music they play, I would venture to guess that they are hispanic (legal or illegal). well, 6 or 7 men, along with a few women, all living in a house the size of ours......I see some of them heading for work every morning, by the tools that they carry out to the truck, I would guess that they are in some kind of construction job. those jobs used to pay decent wages, I am old enough to remember that...but well, employers felt "ENTITLED" to cheaper wages, went and had a talk with our representivies who well, were more than happy to turn a blind eye to all those people crossing the border illegally, so they could feel ENTITLED" to those campaign contributions and votes so they could stay in the office that they felt "ENTITLED" to hold forever!! It costs alot less individually to run a household when there are 6 or 7 wage earners than it is to run 6 or 7 households!! so, these guys can send a nice portion of thier income back home to help the family that they left behind!!
then you got all those one welfare, who the government says they need to get a job, any job, really, but they need to have a job. well, these people don't need to have to sit down do the math and make sure that they can run a household on what they are making since, well....
they are "ENTITLED" to a share of my sons' income to help them with that!!
these are the people my sons are competing with for jobs!!! they don't have to worry about making enough to live on, and will undercut everyone else in the job market, drive down the wages for all of us!
then you have the parents of all these kids, reaching retirement age, thinking that they are "ENTITLED" to a portion of the earnings my kids are making so they can enjoy their golden years!!!
then you have the big gamblers on wall street, who after losing their bets and crashing the economy, went running to our gov't, because they felt they were "ENTITLED" to those big bonuses and pay since they worked so hard and did such a great job crashing the economy!! and of course the polywogs in washington, well, they went along with it....feeling "ENTITLED" to more campaign donations and votes!!
don't preach to me about my kids feeling entitled, or needing to learn responsiblity....they are taking on more responsibiltiy than many of those kids who's parents have forced out of the nest, more than the girls those kids then proceeded to get pregnant, more than the polywogs in washington who are running the show, more than the big bankers who were just too big to fail!!
AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WILL BE PAYING FOR IT EVERYDAY OF THEIR WORKING LIVES.....if we actually manage to hold this mess together that long....
if not, well, we will have four to five guns protected what is ours....
how many will you have protect what is yours?

and the funny thing is.....
my husband, ya know the primary breadwinner of the family, the one who has worked his entire live since being kicked out of his house when he was sixteen.......well......he's spent the most time....out of work!!!
our world has flipped flopped, gotten out of sinc, and well, like it or not....
the extended family just might be making a comeback...
primarily due to neccessity!!

like I said, my kids are showing more responsibility than alot of the 30 year olds out there even, who are still jumping from breast to breast, usually living off of the lady's welfare benefits while working oh, when they want....




[edit on 19-5-2010 by dawnstar]

reply to post by orangetom1999

A good woman brings a man Peace..not only Piece

Very well said, Tom.

I must admit however I have on occasion become insecure and emotional when my man has not shown the intrest in me physically that I felt I needed. I don't need it just for the physical reasons, but the emotional ones as well. I do start to feel irraitonal thoughts like he doesn't want me any more, or there is someone else...they are irrational and when I think logically about them I know they are, but..I am prone to being more emotional then a man.

I do not think this is abnormal, it is just the way women are made up. You see it as a type of blackmail, I see it as as part of our biological make up.

reply to post by Rockpuck


Interesting article and one that should not be dismissed so easily, I can pretty much agree with to some point that increasing work force could cause increase in personal debt.

Then when the work is gone you are still stuck with all that debt so what you do . . . you default.

reply to post by Merigold


Merigold,

I do not think this is abnormal, it is just the way women are made up. You see it as a type of blackmail, I see it as as part of our biological make up.

I dont see it as blackmail..because it does not work on me. I see it as a type of weakness trying to pass off as the moral ethical high ground when it is nothing of the kind. A type of insult..yet no one is supposed to put light on it...right??
Most of these women are accustomed to using this kind of entitlement psuedo moral ethical high ground to replace my reasoning with theirs concering sex, sexuality, and assign it a value in the marketplace or with me. One for which it does not hold. Peace verses Piece.

Peace requires alot more work and commitment from a woman than does Piece. It also requires alot of work and commitment from a man in like manner.

I do know several women for whom Piece has been their major stock in trade ..for most of their adult lives. They are going to be in big trouble when the biology runs out and it gets to midnight Cinderella. They have invested in nothing else. They have no other skills other than their maintenance costs. Alot of these women today become what is called Cougars...getting young inexperienced unknowlegable men to pick up the slack. It is becoming quite popular today. Is this part of the biological make up too??? No one sees what we do??? No one takes polls on it??
I know a number of these women who are also growing olde alone.

Women are and tend indeed to be more emotional. Many women see and think that their emotions are what is just, right, and correct. That they can justify anything and everything because they "feel." I dont happen to agree with this philosophy. Many effeminate men today are doing the same. It doesnt take long to see who or what was the dominant influence in the lives of many of them.

What many women also do not recognize in men... while attempting to default through on their emotional feelings...is that many men must discipline or stow their emotions in order to get tasks accomplished and come home in one piece. Not just for them but with their co workers as well. In otherwords...male socialzation does not lend itself to emotional drama verses female socialization beliefs.
Many women do not particularly care as long as the men bring home the bacon when needed and relieve them of the more difficult tasks of running a home. As long as it works for them. They dont really want to know how it is done as long as it is done.

So male socialization does not easily lend itself to such emotional drama.

Yet many women take this for granted..that they can be emotional. One has to have a tremendous security blanket put there at the RISK of many others to reinforce this type belief system.....as NORMAL!!!

This means women in the economically affluent west cannot be a downtrodden...abused...brutalized victimized group of peoples. Because women in the non economically affluent nations cannot afford to cater to such emotional levels and keep a family alive. They cannot take this for granted or work off of such emotional defaults..entitlement beliefs.

The differnce here is that men must learn to stow their emotions verses women who believe their emotions are entitled. This is not equality...or even equity.

A woman who understands this about my thinking ..verses only her's is a woman who can bring me Peace..verses only Piece.

Let me illustrate this in a different manner by way of my friend across the river.

After his wife died...he went back on the marketplace and began seeing different women.

He told me when I visited him..."one thing I have discovered about many of these women...is that they come over here looking at what they can get for themselves and their children. They are not looking at what they need to bring me..what is really missing from my life...and the need for them to understand and fill this for me. But they are looking at the goodies to which they can get access to for themselves and their children.

They think the route to this is food and sex. The keys to the kingdom if you like.

You see Meriigold..he had figured it out..from a different angle but figured it out nonetheless. He would never get Peace from these women..only Piece...and all the drama which goes on the other end of it by entitlement.

Hope this helps,


Dawnstar,

I am not particularly speaking of the guys living across the street..but your children.

Now you run your house according to how you deem correct...or work this out with your man. No problem by me ..that is your decision...or decisions.

But it does not do for you to imply "Victimization" and facillitate it..because the men "Expect" it to be so." I dont buy it and would not expect my woman to do so to grown men.

I do know that many women do not feel that they are doing womanly/female things unless they are picking up or cooking or such. My own mother tries to do this when I come over..fall back into olde roles. At her age it makes me feel bad to think I cause this when she should be taking it easy. I sometimes bring over some food...rather than have her go or attempt the olde rituals which she thinks are important. And they may be to her.
I just dont think she needs to be struggling with her bad hip.

I just dont think you need to be raising your kids twice or be wiping their noses and cleaning their backsides..when they can most certainly do this for themselves...even in your house. They can be more help..not more maintenance.

And I also dont think much of a man who would aid and abet such behavior as normal at the ages of your two boys at home. You need to be having options at your age and with your weekends ..not more responsibilities.

But that is just me.

You run your house as you deem necessary ..and reap the benefits.



Thanks,
Orangetom





[edit on 19-5-2010 by orangetom1999]