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posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 10:19 PM
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Obama set the US on fire and now we will watch him party while it burns. We will not examine the 30+ years of financial idiocy, corruption on BOTH sides and plain foolishness that got us here.

Did I ever say he started the fire? I think not. BOTH parties contributed to it, and both are pouring more fuel on the fire. My point is that he continues to allow it to burn. Furthermore, you know as well as I do, that it is not the get-together with the politicians that I abhor, but the other "parties". Heck, I have nothing against Stevie Wonder, but that's what the Music Awards are about. The President should be setting a better example. Now if he instead, invited lower or middle class Americans in, and LISTENED to what they had to say, I would say, that would have been money well spent, but JEESH, Stevie Wonder? I think he can afford his OWN party. Heck, he could buy 10 White House-sized mansions!




posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 10:28 PM
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You guys are like spoilt children


The White house is home of the most powerful person in the world and you guys are boning the socializing ( not socialisms)?

Anyhow - the things cons focus on when out of power is interesting...

have a nice four years



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 10:43 PM
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Anyhow - the things cons focus on when out of power is interesting...

Cons? Most of us are sick of both sides. Partisanship is the downfall of this country. It keeps people from focusing on the problems, and solutions. The FACT is that "Rome" is burning, and Nero may not have caused it, but he sure isn't trying to put out the fire.
But you go ahead, and call people partisan names, if it makes you feel better. Some of us are trying to save the republic. I don't think Stevie Wonder or Earth, Wind and Fire, are part of the solution.
People are near starvation in this country, they are loosing their homes, their jobs, and their life savings, and OBAMA PARTIES!!!!!



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by LiquidMirage
Can you just imagine the crap storm that would ensue if a Republican was doing this (not implying that they don't).


Nice polarizing statement but the fact is the former President did the same thing as did the Clinton and the Reagan administration.

Since you aren't aware of it, I will assume there wasn't much of a "crap" storm.
Here are some that may have gotten most of you as angry as you are now.


Stopovers Let Bush Charge Taxpayers for Political Trips
by Mike Allen

And because Bush is always the president -- whether acting as commander in chief or head of the Republican Party -- taxpayers pay the full $57,000-an-hour cost of flying Air Force One regardless of the trip's purpose. The government also pays for most of his entourage and for the military and communications gear and evacuation helicopters that travel ahead of him. commondreams.org



DNC: Taxpayers Picked Up Tab For McCain's London Fundraiser


"The 2007 ethics reform law and the regulations implementing it require that when a candidate mixes campaign and official travel when using a government plane, the campaign travelers must reimburse the government for the full cost of an equivalent round trip charter flight. Reasonable estimates place the cost of a one-way charter flight from Washington to London at between $20,000 and $56,000. As a result, McCain's stated intention to reimburse the federal government $3,000 almost certainly falls far short of what the law requires." huffington post


Taxpayers pay for Bush to attend McCain fundraiser



BLITZER: Ed, who pays when the President goes to a fundraiser like this for John McCain? The McCain campaign or the American taxpayer?

HENRY: They both pay, Wolf. The bottom line is the President is trying to mix in a little official business today. He’s going to speak at cable company…short remarks. That justifies for the White House charging the taxpayers for some of this trip, and the McCain camp picks up the rest, Wolf


It's fine though.
We can pretend this is brand new and get all angry and irate.

It's funny to me though, how Obama inherited this mess left over from the previous spendaholic administration and seems to be molded recently as it's primary cause.


Meet-and-greets, six graders, hotdogs and hamburgers as he lobbied Congress, punch and cocktails...doesn't really seem so grand to me. Seems pretty routine for a President and not that lavish at all. Maybe people are really looking for a ticket to pounce on Obama and are a bit overzealous and melodramatic on this one point.

QUESTION:

Before we start comparing this to the lavish CEO parties and bonuses though, can anyone tell me just how much these parties actually cost the taxpayers?

Does anyone know?



- Lee



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
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Anyhow - the things cons focus on when out of power is interesting...

Cons? Most of us are sick of both sides. Partisanship is the downfall of this country. It keeps people from focusing on the problems, and solutions. The FACT is that "Rome" is burning, and Nero may not have caused it, but he sure isn't trying to put out the fire.
But you go ahead, and call people partisan names, if it makes you feel better. Some of us are trying to save the republic. I don't think Stevie Wonder or Earth, Wind and Fire, are part of the solution.
People are near starvation in this country, they are loosing their homes, their jobs, and their life savings, and OBAMA PARTIES!!!!!


Cons - yes half of the activity on the first page is that on extreme righties or cons and they know who they are, pardon 2 you.

People are near starvation in this country, they are loosing their homes, their jobs, and their life savings, and people flock to a thread about OBAMA PARTIES. Thats my angle...

The inference is that the white house should be a somber place. You are free to have your opinion, it is a free country.



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 12:49 AM
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So nice for politicians to go cruising about in their government planes, helicopters, and limos. Then criticize corporate execs for doing the same. Reeks of royalty.



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by mental modulator



You guys are like spoilt children




OH YEAH......Well....Well......YOU SPELL like CHILDREN!!!


'Spoilt'?????? WOW, that is new to me.


 

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posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 04:13 AM
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Wow, totally missed the point buddy. Can't you see how hypocritical the left is on all this. They slam everybody else for spending unneccesary money, the CEO's from GM can't fly in their own private jet but that succubus Pelosi doesn't travel without one. They attack republicans for ear marks and then turn around and fill the stimulus bill full of the stuff. Oh senator Palin, how dare you buy you and your family expensive clothes.....oh btw did you see how stunning Michelle was with that $20,000 dress, absolutely fabulous. You know who is a spoiled brat, Obama is.



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by mental modulator


People are near starvation in this country, they are loosing their homes, their jobs, and their life savings, and people flock to a thread about OBAMA PARTIES. Thats my angle...




Ummmm, exactly! What is your angle anyway?

 

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posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 04:27 AM
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mmmmkay, I have made up my mind; Mr. Obama, I want my vote back. If this request is not possible, don't worry, i'll make sure to cancel out my past mistake by casting my HARD EARNED vote for your opponent in 2012. Fool me once..............


Sorry, but enough is enough, partisan politics aside. I was a staunch voice AGAINST the Bush administration for 6 years; I was happy to get that clown out of office, and really optimistic about Obama's chances of changing Washington. Well, there was change alright - the change Washington made on Obama.

Raising taxes on others, while people in his administration fail to pay theirs. Eating 100 dollar steaks. Fear mongering the American public with the economy, the SAME way Bush did for his war. Sorry, I can't stomach a hypocritical administration, who is supposed to lead by example. And the kicker......the kicker to it all (I have voted Dem in all elections thus far) is that the Democrats are supposed to be for the working man! Obama is setting an example of good old fashioned elitism - something his party is accusing Republicans of all the time.

My vote is going to a 3rd party candidate next time. I am so SICK of the flawed/crooked two party system.





posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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You say that like it's a bad thing.

Now I can 'member when dubya was holding his parties drinking and
even cracking jokes about it while the troups he send over the fight his
fake "war on terror" were dying.

But either people have forgotten already or just don't care.
And I suspect the latest outburst is more of black thing than
any thing else.



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 05:10 AM
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we don't know how much fat Obama has trimmed from the White House cumulative budget - maybe millions. Probably his allocated entertainment allowance is a fraction of the previous administration.

Amounts of money are relative like anything. In light of the fact that he is trying to somehow juggle not millions or billions but trillions of dollars, the amount spent here is not even pocket change.

Maybe the goodwill and Pr will contribute to increased revenues from the entertainment biz.

People on this forum bitch about everything and everyone.

Send him a message that in future with your tax money he should drive to the beer store, pick up a few cases, and order in pizzas. And invite you.


Mike F



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 05:15 AM
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Another disinformation agent here.

Read Paul Waldman's "Fraud" Where in 262 lies (one of which manipulated the American People into this costly, unjust and unholy war"

Who created the financial mess we are in?

Mostly the Republican Presidents the people in their ignorance seem to keep time and time again keep electing and re-electing through party prejudice and stupidity.

Finally we might have a President that will greet the coffins that come back each month (Bush Jr. never did)

Party?

GWB took over 543 days of vacation during his 8 years of Presidency. You want to talk about the ultimate party boy. Lets talk GWB.

Coke, alcohol, pot. While GWB was laying in a coffin naked getting initiated into a idiotic fraternity and partying as a youth, much akin to the Paris Hilton of today. One of the elite rich's kids that can do as they please while the parents foot the bill.

Obama, on the other hand got every single grade the hard way, his daddy didn't buy his grades nor his presidency - Obama had to W.O.R.K. like the majority of us.

Another disinformation agent poster here. Another person that just choses to believe and spread lies and rumors.

My guess is you voted for McCain and are experiencing "sour grapes". You would have preferred to continue America spiraling into the shi& hole we find ourselves currently in.

The person that posted this and I am rebuttaling to hasn't a clue as to what has actually transpired in our country and who has caused it.

Possible election tampering, (stealing), possibly orchestrating 911, to maniplate the American People into a costly war that now has our country neck deep in debt.

When Clinton left office we had a surplus.

Bush and his administration funded by the major corporations (who contributed heavily to his campaign) possibly orchestrated 911 to manipulate the American People (by fear) into a costly war.

Murder, stealing, torture, our 43rd President left quite a legacy and many American's bought it because they don't read, don't educate themselves as to the true charactor of their leaders.

American's would rather watch Dancing with the Stars, American Idol and read the movie magazines or fluff novels vs watching the House of Rep Channel or reading books of intellegence.

American's gave away their freedom and their money each time they voted party prejudice (the way mom and dad voted) or watched and bought into Fox News (which is owned and propagandized by the handful of the elite rich).



www.cedarcomm.com...

Since 1938 the Democrats have held the White house for 35 years, the Republicans for 36. Over that time the national debt has increased at an average annual rate of 8.5%. In years Democrats were in the White House there was an average increase of 8.3%. In years the Republicans ran the White House the debt increased an average 9.2% per year. Those averages aren’t that far apart, but they do show a bias toward more borrowing by Republicans than Democrats even including World War II.

If you look at the 60+ year record of debt since the end of WWII, starting with Truman’s term, the difference between the two parties’ contributions to our national debt level change considerably. Since 1946, Democratic presidents increased the national debt an average of only 3.2% per year. The Republican presidents stay at an average increase of 9.2% per year. Republican Presidents out borrowed and spent Democratic presidents by a three to one ratio. Putting that in very real terms; for every dollar a Democratic president has raised the national debt in the past 63 years Republican presidents have raised the debt by $2.84

Prior to the Neo-Conservative takeover of the Republican Party there was not much difference between the two parties’ debt philosophy. They both worked together to minimize it. However the debt has been on a steady incline ever since the Reagan presidency. The only exception to the steep increase over the last 30 years was during the Clinton presidency, when he brought spending under control and the debt growth down to almost zero.

Comparing the borrowing habits of the two parties since 1981, when the Neo-Conservative movement really took hold and government spending raced out of control, it is extremely obvious that the big spenders in Washington are Republicans and their party’s presidents. The only Democratic president since then, Mr. Clinton raised the national debt an average of 4.3% per year. The Republican presidents (Reagan, Bush, and Bush II) raised the debt an average of 10.8% per year. That is, for every dollar a Democratic President has raised the national debt in the past 30 years, Republican presidents have raised the debt by $2.52[6]. Any way you look at it Neo-Conservative Republican presidents cannot or will not control government spending.

It is interesting to note who controlled Congress versus what party was in the presidency during the seven years that the debt was reduced throughout the terms of Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy. Three times the Democratic Party controlled both Houses of Congress and the Presidency (1948, 1951 & 1961). The other four years all had a mix of control, with Republicans in the White House (1956 & 1957), in charge of Congress (1946 & 1947), but never both. At no time since 1945 when Republicans have been in total charge of both elected branches of government have they ever reduced spending. They talk about it a lot, but they never deliver.

While the debt did go up every year during Johnson’s time in office (1963-69), he was the last president before Clinton to submit a balanced budget, and Johnson did this during a time of a very hot Cold War. Johnson’s average was a debt increase of 3% for the six years he served. He had a Democratic Congress to work with all his years in office.

In 1993 President Clinton inherited the deficit spending problem and did more than just talk about it; he fixed it. In his first two years, with a cooperative Democratic Congress, he set the course for the best economy this country has ever experienced. Then he worked with what could be characterized as the most hostile Congress in history, led by Republicans for the last six years of his administration. Yet, under constant personal attacks from the right, he still managed to get the growth of the debt down to 0.32% (one third of one percent) his last year in office. Had his policies been followed for one more year the debt would have been reduced for the first time since the Kennedy administration. Contrary to the myth fostered by our right-wing friends, under a Democrat, revenue increased and spending decreased.

The only time we have seen national debt reduction in the past 60 years was when Democrats were totally in charge of our government or when one party was in the White House and another ran Congress

In the past 60 years when Republicans were in control of the presidency and both Houses of Congress, neither debt, nor government spending was ever reduced.

Relatively recent history tells us that there is a simple solution to the growing debt problem: Congress must adhere to a ‘pay as you go’ rule regardless of the party in control. Unfortunately it requires a President like Bill Clinton, who was truly committed to balancing the budget, to lead the Congress, regardless of the party in charge, to do the right thing for the future of the nation.


My guess is Barack Obama will not take 543 days of vacation if he is in office for two terms.

He's going to be too busy cleaning up the mess most of the Republican Presidents have left with their overspending that affects the average middle class tax paying American.

Party President...............George W. Bush has got to win the prize for that one, not Obama.



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posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 05:20 AM
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posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 05:21 AM
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What else is he going to do, he's a puppet? Spiral down is the game plan. He's doing just what they want him to. Some day, he's probably going to paint the white house black!



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by skeptic_al
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You say that like it's a bad thing.

Now I can 'member when dubya was holding his parties drinking and
even cracking jokes about it while the troups he send over the fight his
fake "war on terror" were dying.

But either people have forgotten already or just don't care.
And I suspect the latest outburst is more of black thing than
any thing else.


And yet people are still in Iraq fighting this fake "war on terror" as you put it while Obama is getting down to Earth wind and Fire and Stevie Wonder.
Yet you want to bring up Bush to justify this? People couldn't wait to get rid of
Bush for this reason among many others.

I don't think its a "black thing" at all but about how both Bush was, and Obama is, out of touch with current circumstances.



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by jam321
Taxpayer's money nonetheless.


Some tax payers have had enough. They are cutting back on their income making so that they can cut back on their tax payimg.

Thread Here

They don't see why they should have to work really hard just to pay extra taxes. I don't see why they should have to either. The tax money is just being thrown away.



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by ofhumandescent
Who created the financial mess we are in? Mostly the Republican Presidents ...


You forget a few people. People like (D) Barney Frank ... and Obama himself. Obama's one of those lawyers that sued Citibank and forced it to make bad loans... loans to people that eveyrone knew couldn't pay it back. And now the Democrats control DC and they are spending us into oblivion.

Pointing your partisan finger doesn't cut it.


GWB took over 543 days of vacation during his 8 years of Presidency.

You do know that when Bush was 'on vacation' in Texas he was still working, right? He didn't get time off even when he was 'on vacation'.

Wanna talk about how Obama took Air Force One for a three day holiday to Chicago over Valentines Day in order to take Michelle out to dinner? He did that while the 'emercency' non-stimulating stimulus bill sat on his desk and did nothing. Oh .. and the AirForce One cost alone was ~$75,000. Way to save money Obama! :shk:


You want to talk about the ultimate party boy. Lets talk GWB. Coke, alcohol, pot.

You want to talk about the ultimate party boy. Let's talk Obama. Coke, alcohol, pot. Right back atchya. Obama even said he 'struggled' with coke. STRUGGLED ... as in addiction.


you would have preferred to continue America spiraling into the shi& hole we find ourselves currently in.

Take a look around you. It's gotten WORSE since Obama was elected.


Possible election tampering, (stealing),

Obama just stole the census from the Commerce Dept and brought it to the White House. What do you think that is? It's a major grab for power and it will be THEFT of elections via map redistribution.


American's gave away their freedom and their money each time they voted party prejudice (the way mom and dad voted) or watched and bought into Fox News (which is owned and propagandized by the handful of the elite rich).

Oh please.
MSNBC is owned and propagandized by the rich far left. CNN is as well, but to a lesser extent. George Soros? Hollywood $$$. Fox has NOTHING on MSNBC and CNN.


He's going to be too busy cleaning up the mess most of the Republican Presidents have left with their overspending that affects the average middle class tax paying American.

1 - You are seriously complaining about Republicans 'overspending'?
That's funny. Especially considering that Obama has just stolen a trillion dollars from our children and grandchildren in order to subsidize pork projects under the faux-stimulus packages. When you factor in interest payments the estimates come back that 3 trillion will be owed.

2 - If he's busy cleaning up the mess of republican presidents he's not doing a good job. He's making an even bigger mess in his lame attempt to 'clean up'.

God help us if we have a national emergency or if we are attacked again. We won't be able to afford to do anything thanks to Obama's 'cleaning up'. :shk:





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posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 06:05 AM
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You may think that the "left wing media" would make a big deal about the partying of a republican president, however information regarding Bush's own "partying" while in office is rather hard to find. I did finally come across an article from CBS that detailed Bush's time away from the office...

Almost 1,000 days spent at either Camp David or Crawford, TX. I fact Bush was clearing brush in Crawford not while the nation burned, but while it was drowning, as I recall during hurricane Katrina.

490 days in Crawford, 497 days at Camp David... I would say Barack Obama spending a day a week entertaining while still in Washington D.C. is a huge step up from what we have seen in the past.



posted on Mar, 3 2009 @ 06:54 AM
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Your right, if this had been anyone else other then "The Choosen One" the press would be roasting them daily. Why is the press being so quiet . . oh, that's right, they work for him, can't make "Him" look bad now can we? The real scary part is, he's only just started.





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