reply to post by ProfEmeritus
Another disinformation agent here.
Read Paul Waldman's "Fraud" Where in 262 lies (one of which manipulated the American People into this costly, unjust and unholy war"
Who created the financial mess we are in?
Mostly the Republican Presidents the people in their ignorance seem to keep time and time again keep electing and re-electing through party prejudice
and stupidity.
Finally we might have a President that will greet the coffins that come back each month (Bush Jr. never did)
Party?
GWB took over 543 days of vacation during his 8 years of Presidency. You want to talk about the ultimate party boy. Lets talk GWB.
Coke, alcohol, pot. While GWB was laying in a coffin naked getting initiated into a idiotic fraternity and partying as a youth, much akin to the
Paris Hilton of today. One of the elite rich's kids that can do as they please while the parents foot the bill.
Obama, on the other hand got every single grade the hard way, his daddy didn't buy his grades nor his presidency - Obama had to W.O.R.K. like the
majority of us.
Another disinformation agent poster here. Another person that just choses to believe and spread lies and rumors.
My guess is you voted for McCain and are experiencing "sour grapes". You would have preferred to continue America spiraling into the shi& hole we
find ourselves currently in.
The person that posted this and I am rebuttaling to hasn't a clue as to what has actually transpired in our country and who has caused it.
Possible election tampering, (stealing), possibly orchestrating 911, to maniplate the American People into a costly war that now has our country neck
deep in debt.
When Clinton left office we had a surplus.
Bush and his administration funded by the major corporations (who contributed heavily to his campaign) possibly orchestrated 911 to manipulate the
American People (by fear) into a costly war.
Murder, stealing, torture, our 43rd President left quite a legacy and many American's bought it because they don't read, don't educate themselves
as to the true charactor of their leaders.
American's would rather watch Dancing with the Stars, American Idol and read the movie magazines or fluff novels vs watching the House of Rep Channel
or reading books of intellegence.
American's gave away their freedom and their money each time they voted party prejudice (the way mom and dad voted) or watched and bought into Fox
News (which is owned and propagandized by the handful of the elite rich).
www.cedarcomm.com...
Since 1938 the Democrats have held the White house for 35 years, the Republicans for 36. Over that time the national debt has increased at an average
annual rate of 8.5%. In years Democrats were in the White House there was an average increase of 8.3%. In years the Republicans ran the White House
the debt increased an average 9.2% per year. Those averages aren’t that far apart, but they do show a bias toward more borrowing by Republicans
than Democrats even including World War II.
If you look at the 60+ year record of debt since the end of WWII, starting with Truman’s term, the difference between the two parties’
contributions to our national debt level change considerably. Since 1946, Democratic presidents increased the national debt an average of only 3.2%
per year. The Republican presidents stay at an average increase of 9.2% per year. Republican Presidents out borrowed and spent Democratic presidents
by a three to one ratio. Putting that in very real terms; for every dollar a Democratic president has raised the national debt in the past 63 years
Republican presidents have raised the debt by $2.84
Prior to the Neo-Conservative takeover of the Republican Party there was not much difference between the two parties’ debt philosophy. They both
worked together to minimize it. However the debt has been on a steady incline ever since the Reagan presidency. The only exception to the steep
increase over the last 30 years was during the Clinton presidency, when he brought spending under control and the debt growth down to almost zero.
Comparing the borrowing habits of the two parties since 1981, when the Neo-Conservative movement really took hold and government spending raced out of
control, it is extremely obvious that the big spenders in Washington are Republicans and their party’s presidents. The only Democratic president
since then, Mr. Clinton raised the national debt an average of 4.3% per year. The Republican presidents (Reagan, Bush, and Bush II) raised the debt
an average of 10.8% per year. That is, for every dollar a Democratic President has raised the national debt in the past 30 years, Republican
presidents have raised the debt by $2.52[6]. Any way you look at it Neo-Conservative Republican presidents cannot or will not control government
spending.
It is interesting to note who controlled Congress versus what party was in the presidency during the seven years that the debt was reduced throughout
the terms of Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy. Three times the Democratic Party controlled both Houses of Congress and the Presidency (1948, 1951 &
1961). The other four years all had a mix of control, with Republicans in the White House (1956 & 1957), in charge of Congress (1946 & 1947), but
never both. At no time since 1945 when Republicans have been in total charge of both elected branches of government have they ever reduced spending.
They talk about it a lot, but they never deliver.
While the debt did go up every year during Johnson’s time in office (1963-69), he was the last president before Clinton to submit a balanced budget,
and Johnson did this during a time of a very hot Cold War. Johnson’s average was a debt increase of 3% for the six years he served. He had a
Democratic Congress to work with all his years in office.
In 1993 President Clinton inherited the deficit spending problem and did more than just talk about it; he fixed it. In his first two years, with a
cooperative Democratic Congress, he set the course for the best economy this country has ever experienced. Then he worked with what could be
characterized as the most hostile Congress in history, led by Republicans for the last six years of his administration. Yet, under constant personal
attacks from the right, he still managed to get the growth of the debt down to 0.32% (one third of one percent) his last year in office. Had his
policies been followed for one more year the debt would have been reduced for the first time since the Kennedy administration. Contrary to the myth
fostered by our right-wing friends, under a Democrat, revenue increased and spending decreased.
The only time we have seen national debt reduction in the past 60 years was when Democrats were totally in charge of our government or when one party
was in the White House and another ran Congress
In the past 60 years when Republicans were in control of the presidency and both Houses of Congress, neither debt, nor government spending was ever
reduced.
Relatively recent history tells us that there is a simple solution to the growing debt problem: Congress must adhere to a ‘pay as you go’ rule
regardless of the party in control. Unfortunately it requires a President like Bill Clinton, who was truly committed to balancing the budget, to lead
the Congress, regardless of the party in charge, to do the right thing for the future of the nation.
My guess is Barack Obama will not take 543 days of vacation if he is in office for two terms.
He's going to be too busy cleaning up the mess most of the Republican Presidents have left with their overspending that affects the average middle
class tax paying American.
Party President...............George W. Bush has got to win the prize for that one, not Obama.
[edit on 3-3-2009 by ofhumandescent]
MSNBC is owned and propagandized by the rich far left. CNN is as well, but to a lesser extent. George Soros? Hollywood $$$. Fox
has NOTHING on MSNBC and CNN. 
