Originally posted by EverythingYouKnowIsWrong

Originally posted by greenorbs

I think you will have trouble calculating the very large integers using C++. You would have to do some crazy coding to handle the overflows. Try the Ruby language, which automatically handles very large numbers. If you are on a Mac, use XCode, Ruby is built-in. Not sure what to do on a PC vis-a-vis the compiler.

Yeah it's definitely a pain. Fortunately someone has already done the coding for such a problem, and it works. Now I just need to implement it tweak a few things. Results coming soon

I just remembered to add that the number to look for must not contain 5. Since Phi to ten decimal places does not have a 5 and reduces to 1237 using the technique, I used to the code to look for numbers that did not have 5.

I have studied that system. I found it to be very fascinating! It is all pervasive in life. Fossils included! I would like to find more books and or info on it. Any references?

Originally posted by greenorbsthe first verse: “In the Beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth.” (Genesis 1:1)

...and then it sat there for awhile...

are you going to write out your translation-or what???

Thanks for posting this. I'm very interested in 'intuitive information' and I prefer to let it sit a bit in the back of my head and my gut for awhile, before arriving at any opinion about it. I've had a lot of mystical experience that involves numbers, which is usually fascinating yet frustrating because I have no idea what to do with them. (Nor did I realize that numbers are sentient in their own way and the building blocks of our universe, but I suspect that's a little far out even for this forum!)

I'd like to hear more about this. I don't read hebrew so translations are good. Thanks.

PJ

Originally posted by RedCairo
Thanks for posting this. I'm very interested in 'intuitive information' and I prefer to let it sit a bit in the back of my head and my gut for awhile, before arriving at any opinion about it. I've had a lot of mystical experience that involves numbers, which is usually fascinating yet frustrating because I have no idea what to do with them. (Nor did I realize that numbers are sentient in their own way and the building blocks of our universe, but I suspect that's a little far out even for this forum!)

I'd like to hear more about this. I don't read hebrew so translations are good. Thanks.

PJ

You're welcome. More to come.

Originally posted by HugmyRek

Originally posted by greenorbsthe first verse: “In the Beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth.” (Genesis 1:1)

...and then it sat there for awhile...

are you going to write out your translation-or what???

Yes, soon.

Originally posted by prevenge

(get out your calculators kids!)

black
then
white are

all i see
in my infancy
red and yellow then came to be
reaching out to me
lets me see

As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
drawn beyond the lines of reason.
Push the envelope.
Watch it bend.




-

[edit on 3-3-2009 by prevenge]

Well done. Reminds me of the alchemy stuff from the Emerald Stone.

My poor little brain is in tears.
It gets so upset when it can’t understand something.
I wish I had Solomon’s Choice and could get God to give me a big whopping dose of intelligence.
I’d love to understand your thread better, but, I’m sorry to say I’m in the dark.
Regardless it’s absolutely fascinating.

I have *black holes* (I guess you’d call it) in my mind - but for me the protagonist is music.
Certain chords and notes that *send me* *there.*
While in that *space* I can work out problems in my life, I’m shown things, and my subconscious is freed from the world to do what it needs to do without interruption and distractions.

Now, since music is just *singing math* maybe I’m doing the same thing as you, only in a different language, if you will.

I’ll have to get try and figure out what numbers are associated in the chords I use and see what I find?

peace

Originally posted by gYvMessanger
If you post the hebrew and the stages of your application technique I will have it looked at by people who study the Gra's Techniques more extensively.

Excellent, that is what I was hoping for. Someone that has a lot of experience in Kabbalah will want to pick up what I have begun for further study and/or verification/refutation.

I don't know Hebrew, and went through the letters using a Biblical Hebrew lexicon. I think I did it accurately at least for the first few letters, but someone who is fluent would find the task much easier.

Skeptics will say it is nothing more than coincidence. I would hope that a statistician would be interested in this experiment, and could provide an analysis of the probability of all the coincidences lining up from the inputs (inputs being the Fibonacci numbers that reduce to 1237, the arrangement of the Hebrew letters on the channels of the Ari-Gra Sephirot, the letters corresponding to words, and the words corresponding to Moses).

Originally posted by mr-lizard
Interesting thread.

Please post the hebrew.

edit: need to verify the numbers.



[edit on 3-3-2009 by greenorbs]

Originally posted by greenorbs

I just remembered to add that the number to look for must not contain 5. Since Phi to ten decimal places does not have a 5 and reduces to 1237 using the technique, I used to the code to look for numbers that did not have 5.

Lol yeah I figured that one out after a few runs through the debugger

Anyway I managed to finish the program. I analyzed the first 50,000 Fibonacci numbers and only found 23 as well, so your results are verified, so far. I'm going to check higher, but I'm seriously doubting there could possibly be another one without a 5 in it.

Here is a screenshot showing the results of the first 10000 Fibonacci numbers.



And here is the 10,000th Fibonacci number if anyone's interested:

33644764876431783266621612005107543310302148460680063
90656476997468008144216666236815559551363373402558206
53326808361593737347904838652682630408924630564318873
54544369559827491606602099884183933864652731300088830
26923567361313511757929743785441375213052050434770160
22647583189065278908551543661595829872796829875106312
00575428783453215515103870818298969791613127856265033
19548714021428753269818796204693609787990035096230229
10263681314931952756302278376284415403605844025721143
34961180023091208287046088923962328835461505776583271
25254609359112820392528539343462090424524892940390170
62338889910858410651831733604374707379085526317643257
33993712871937587746897479926305837065742830161637408
96917842637862421283525811282051637029808933209990570
79200643674262023897831114700540749984592503606335609
33883831923386783056136435351892133279732908133732642
65263398976392272340788292817795358057099369104917547
08089318410561463223382174656373212482263830921032977
01648054726243842374862411453093812206564914032751086
64339451751216152654536133311131404243685480510676584
34935238369596534280717687753283482343455573667197313
92746273629108210679280784718035329131176778924659089
93863545932789452377767440619224033763867400402133034
32974969020283281459334188268176838930720036347956231
17103101291953169794607632737589253530772552375943788
43450406771555577905645044301664011946258097221672975
86150269684431469520346149322911059706762432685159928
34709891284706740862008587135016260312071903172086094
08129832158107728207635318662461127824553720853236530
57759564300725177443150515396009051686032203491632226
40885248852433158051534849622434848299380905070483482
44932745373262456775587908918719080366205800959474315
00524025327097469953187707243768259074199396322659841
47498193609285223945039707165443156421328157688908058
78318340491743455627052022356484649519611246026831397
09750693826487066132645076650746115126775227486215986
42530711298441182622661057163515069260029861704945425
04749137811515413994155067125627119713325276363193960
69028956502882686083622410820505624307017949761711212
33066073310059947366875



[edit on 3-3-2009 by EverythingYouKnowIsWrong]

Originally posted by EverythingYouKnowIsWrong

Originally posted by greenorbs

I just remembered to add that the number to look for must not contain 5. Since Phi to ten decimal places does not have a 5 and reduces to 1237 using the technique, I used to the code to look for numbers that did not have 5.

Lol yeah I figured that one out after a few runs through the debugger

Anyway I managed to finish the program. I analyzed the first 50,000 Fibonacci numbers and only found 23 as well, so your results are verified, so far. I'm going to check higher, but I'm seriously doubting there could possibly be another one without a 5 in it.

Here is a screenshot showing the results of the first 10000 Fibonacci numbers.

And here is the 10,000th Fibonacci number if anyone's interested:

33644764876431783266621612005107543310302148460680063
90656476997468008144216666236815559551363373402558206
53326808361593737347904838652682630408924630564318873
54544369559827491606602099884183933864652731300088830
26923567361313511757929743785441375213052050434770160
22647583189065278908551543661595829872796829875106312
00575428783453215515103870818298969791613127856265033
19548714021428753269818796204693609787990035096230229
10263681314931952756302278376284415403605844025721143
34961180023091208287046088923962328835461505776583271
25254609359112820392528539343462090424524892940390170
62338889910858410651831733604374707379085526317643257
33993712871937587746897479926305837065742830161637408
96917842637862421283525811282051637029808933209990570
79200643674262023897831114700540749984592503606335609
33883831923386783056136435351892133279732908133732642
65263398976392272340788292817795358057099369104917547
08089318410561463223382174656373212482263830921032977
01648054726243842374862411453093812206564914032751086
64339451751216152654536133311131404243685480510676584
34935238369596534280717687753283482343455573667197313
92746273629108210679280784718035329131176778924659089
93863545932789452377767440619224033763867400402133034
32974969020283281459334188268176838930720036347956231
17103101291953169794607632737589253530772552375943788
43450406771555577905645044301664011946258097221672975
86150269684431469520346149322911059706762432685159928
34709891284706740862008587135016260312071903172086094
08129832158107728207635318662461127824553720853236530
57759564300725177443150515396009051686032203491632226
40885248852433158051534849622434848299380905070483482
44932745373262456775587908918719080366205800959474315
00524025327097469953187707243768259074199396322659841
47498193609285223945039707165443156421328157688908058
78318340491743455627052022356484649519611246026831397
09750693826487066132645076650746115126775227486215986
42530711298441182622661057163515069260029861704945425
04749137811515413994155067125627119713325276363193960
69028956502882686083622410820505624307017949761711212
33066073310059947366875



[edit on 3-3-2009 by EverythingYouKnowIsWrong]

Great job! You are a good programmer to pull that together so fast.

Here's another interesting coincidental property of the 1237 numbers:

Phi to ten decimals, 1.6180339887, occurs for the first time as the ratio between F(27) and F(26).

F(27) = 196,418
F(26) = 121,393

196,418 / 121,393 = 1.6180339887... and this reduces to 1237.

The next Fibonacci number is F(28) = 317,811, which is the first in the sequence that reduces to 1237.

Here's another interesting coincidental property of the 1237 numbers:

Phi to ten decimals, 1.6180339887, occurs for the first time as the ratio between F(27) and F(26).

F(27) = 196,418
F(26) = 121,393

196,418 / 121,393 = 1.6180339887... and this reduces to 1237.

The next Fibonacci number is F(28) = 317,811, which is the first in the sequence that reduces to 1237.

Tying this back to the Kabbalah, Hebrew, and God:

in the hebrew alphabet, the 22 letters are grouped into 3 cohorts of 3, 7, and 12 letters.

* The Mothers represent the three times Genesis states “God made."
* The Doubles represent the seven times Genesis states “God saw."
* The elementals (or singles) represent the rest of the times “God” (Elohim in every instance of Genesis Chapter 1) is mentioned.

There is a lot of significance to these groupings in Kabbalah. I won't go into them here, maybe someone with more expertise would like to.

So, the letters are in groups of 3, 7, and 12. When applying the reduction technique, these numbers become a 1237 number.

"Interestingly, there are 23 Fibonacci numbers that resulted from my analysis and led to the message in the numbers. 23 is a very powerful number in numerology. I used an algorithm involving Phi to deduce the 23 numbers. "

...
Have you ever heard of the 23 enigma?
Every Discordian has.
I seriously flipped when I read this.
23 is everywhere these days.

I just finished testing up to the 100,000th Fibonacci number, which is 20,899 digits long (6 full pages of 12 point courier font), and still got the same 23 numbers in the results. I think it's safe to say those 23 are it.

I look forward to more info about the deciphering process