Story of Moses found in Fibonacci Sequence

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posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 10:41 AM
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I have written on another thread about seeing green orbs while manic. At the time I thought I had been in touch with angels or aliens. Things were being revealed to me, my thoughts raced out of control and I felt a euphoria unlike any I have ever known. During that period, a thought popped into my head (revealed?) that told me to use the Fibonacci sequence to communicate with angels or God. So I began to.

The thought was that if you begin the Fibonacci sequence, your mind will automatically deduce the golden ratio, the number phi, which begins with the ratio of Fibonacci numbers 233 and 377. Phi, in turn, is a real number with decimals that extend to infinity. My thought was that a number such as phi, or pi, that extends to infinity, opens up a hole in our minds. Our brains cannot comprehend the infiinite nature of the number, thus a "black hole" or infinite loop appears in our thought process. This unknown also exists in our mind when considering the origins, God, and what happened before the Big Bang.

So I began to say the beginning of the Fibonacci sequence aloud, "1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8" and then I would descend the sequence as well "8, 5, 3, 2, 1, 1." When around people, I would flash the numbers with my fingers with my hands in my pockets. To me, this process would then "trap" a black hole in my mind, at which point my neural network in my brain would then link up with the other black holes in my mind involving God and the unknown. At that point, I would ponder God, and existence.

That is when more thoughts would pop into my mind, extending the thoughts involving the Fibonacci sequence. Eventually, this led to the inspiration to write a computer program to calculate the sequence and analyze certain numbers in the sequence for properties. Using the specific numbers resulting from that analysis, I then applied the Sephirot from Kaballah and the Hebrew alphabet to the numbers. The result was a message that is eerily similar to the story of Moses from the Old Testament.

Interestingly, there are 23 Fibonacci numbers that resulted from my analysis and led to the message in the numbers. 23 is a very powerful number in numerology. I used an algorithm involving Phi to deduce the 23 numbers.

If anyone would like to know more, reply to this thread and I will give details. It is pretty involved, so I don't want to go through the explanation if no one is interested.

I think it is an Incredible Coincidence that the analysis I performed would produce the results it did. It could be nothing more than coincidence, but the fact that the thought experiment was inspired by what I thought was communication with God or angels makes the connection very eery to me.

Maybe they are around us all the time?

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posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 10:44 AM
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If this is true, post your methodology and results. Like show me what number equaled what and how you possibly equated intelligible words out of numbers in a definite sequence.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 10:59 AM
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What was the message?

I've always thought that Moses, Abraham, David and Solomon were symbolic, rather than real people



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 11:31 AM
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What are the 23 numbers?
What is the formula?
How far into the sequence did you check?

Also, 377/233 isn't exactly phi. It's close, but only to 4 or 5 decimal places, so how close does it have to be to count?

edit... Looking into it further, it appears the ratio of sequential numbers in the Fibonacci sequence converges to phi as the sequence approaches infinity, so how would you use phi to pick specific numbers out of the sequence. In other word's, what's the formula?

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posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 11:50 AM
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My thought was that a number such as phi, or pi, that extends to infinity, opens up a hole in our minds. Our brains cannot comprehend the infiinite nature of the number, thus a "black hole" or infinite loop appears in our thought process.


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Thats similar to the logic behind catechisms such as "If a tree falls in the forest and there's no one there to hear it, does it really fall".

Its illogical to focus on the answer but rather focus on the process and indirectly you will do as you say "create a black hole" in your mind. Which is in essence the root of the mystical experience.

Peace

Sod showing the computer program or the results, even if they do exist we more than likely wouldn't be able to understand them.

Props to a solid idea!



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 11:52 AM
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If this is true, post your methodology and results. Like show me what number equaled what and how you possibly equated intelligible words out of numbers in a definite sequence.

"Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts." Einstein

Peace



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 12:36 PM
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Yes I was definitely having some sort of mystical experience when the thoughts would come. I've been told this was just mania, but the hyper-religiosity was incredible. In a way, I wish everyone could experience it as some point or another.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by EverythingYouKnowIsWrong
What are the 23 numbers?
What is the formula?
How far into the sequence did you check?

Also, 377/233 isn't exactly phi. It's close, but only to 4 or 5 decimal places, so how close does it have to be to count?

edit... Looking into it further, it appears the ratio of sequential numbers in the Fibonacci sequence converges to phi as the sequence approaches infinity, so how would you use phi to pick specific numbers out of the sequence. In other word's, what's the formula?

[edit on 2-3-2009 by EverythingYouKnowIsWrong]


I used Phi to ten decimal places: 1.6180339887.

Ten is important because:


"God is said to have created the world through Ten Utterances, marked by the number of times Genesis states, “And God said.” Upon scrutiny, there are only nine, but the Kabbalists count the first verse: “In the Beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth.” (Genesis 1:1) This is because something was created, which parallels what happens every time “And God said” is stated."


en.wikipedia.org

A technique was revealed to me as mentioned above involving modifying a given string of integers. This reduction technique is as follows:

1. Arrange the string in ascending order, 0-9.
2. Eliminate repeating numbers.
3. Change 4 to 2, because 2*2 is 4.
4. Change 6 to (2 3) because 2*3 is 6.
3. Change 8 to 2, because 2*2*2 is 8.
4. Change 9 to 3, because 3*3 is 9.
5. Arrange in ascending order again.
6. Eliminate repeating numbers.

Applying this to Phi to ten decimals yields:

1.6180339887

1 3 6 7 8 9

1 3 2 3 7 2 3

1 2 3 7

So, 1237 is a special number because it is what Phi reduces to using that technique, which again was revealed to me while in a transcendental state. So, I was inspired by 1237 and continued thinking about it. You can interpret it however you wish.

I kept going with it and then wrote a program to find the Fibonacci numbers that reduce as above to 1237. I ran this program for several hours, calculating very very large integers for the Fibonacci number, and only found 23.

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posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by TheRealDonPedros



Props to a solid idea!





Thanks!



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
What was the message?

I've always thought that Moses, Abraham, David and Solomon were symbolic, rather than real people



The message is a sequence of Biblical Hebrew words. The first few ones are eerily close to words that can describe Moses. I am not a Biblical Hebrew scholar or theologian, but that is what I found. I would hope that someone would read this and feel inspired to replicate my findings.

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posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by ragman
If this is true, post your methodology and results. Like show me what number equaled what and how you possibly equated intelligible words out of numbers in a definite sequence.


I'll run the program again and try to get you the 23 Fibonacci numbers. Some of them are very large. Elsewhere in this thread I describe the reduction technique I used to identify the 23 numbers.

I then applied the Sephirot to each two integer pair of each number, and the first few numbers yielded Biblical Hebrew words that can be interpreted as describing Moses.

I don't want to bog down each post with the all the details, but I will follow up with the process using the Sephirot and Biblical Hebrew if you are interested.



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 01:48 PM
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Wow, that sounds fascinating, and I like the idea of opening a black hole in your mind.
While I'm at work, I have to sort documents all day, and put them into batches. I almost always use fibonacci numbers to determine the size of batches, one batch has 8 documents, another 13, 21, 34, and so on.
I'm always amazed at how often I am able to be left with batches of all fibonacci numbers (higher than 8 or so, because obviously I could make batches of 1 or 2 documents).
The idea that I could be opening a "black hole" in my mind while doing this is intriguing, and I will continue to ponder this idea as I go about my work.
Thanks!



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by greenorbs

Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
What was the message?

I've always thought that Moses, Abraham, David and Solomon were symbolic, rather than real people



The message is a sequence of Biblical Hebrew words. The first few ones are eerily close to words that can describe Moses. I am not a Biblical Hebrew scholar or theologian, but that is what I found. I would hope that someone would read this and feel inspired to replicate my findings.

[edit on 2-3-2009 by greenorbs]



Maybe someone can take a crack at the Hebrew ?



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 05:40 PM
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and "1237" in numerology reduces to 1+2+3+7 = 13 = 1 + 3 = 4 and the sq rt of 4 = 2...thus everything reduces to two. "I am, I said" (God and Neil Diamond), Yin and Yang, Good (God) and Evil (D'evil), above and below, Heaven and Hell, Plus and Minus, Male and Female, Hot and Cold, Night and Day, Black and White, Matter and Anitmatter, et cetera....



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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Interesting thread.

Please post the hebrew.




posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 06:14 PM
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not to distract form the math here..

but i came up with a silly but funny hypothetical method of how to defend yourself against one of those biological programmed entity.. the "mass produced grays" ...

you just look at it and ask it "are you even aware that you arent aware that you exist times phi times pi?"

after a set of bugs-bunny-esque seizures, (EEK! AACK! OOK! ).. the offending would-be anal prober's head then implodes.

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posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 08:38 PM
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I would definitely like to have a detailed report of this experiment with the Fibonacci numbers. Will you post one here? If not, will you have one available by email, perhaps?



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by outsider13
Wow, that sounds fascinating, and I like the idea of opening a black hole in your mind.
While I'm at work, I have to sort documents all day, and put them into batches. I almost always use fibonacci numbers to determine the size of batches, one batch has 8 documents, another 13, 21, 34, and so on.
I'm always amazed at how often I am able to be left with batches of all fibonacci numbers (higher than 8 or so, because obviously I could make batches of 1 or 2 documents).
The idea that I could be opening a "black hole" in my mind while doing this is intriguing, and I will continue to ponder this idea as I go about my work.
Thanks!


You're welcome! It sounds like you are on a similar track with the Fibonacci stuff. What inspired you to do the stacking that way?



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by Code9
I would definitely like to have a detailed report of this experiment with the Fibonacci numbers. Will you post one here? If not, will you have one available by email, perhaps?


Glad you asked, because I put a lot of time into this and need to get it off my chest. I tried emailing a math professor about it, he is an expert on the Fibonacci sequence in nature and math, but he never replied after I explained the Kabbalah stuff.

I ran the program again, and below are the numbers. Each one reduces to 1237 using the revealed technique. I ran the program for hours and there are only 23 of them. I have to tweak the program somewhat to determine the position for each number, and will do that soon. I'll explain the Kabbalah/Hebrew connection tomorrow, and then figure out how to upload the words and translation. More to follow, I promise! Thanks for being open-minded about this.

1 317811
2 2178309
3 267914296
4 701408733
5 1134903170
6 72723460248141
7 117669030460994
8 8944394323791464
9 14472334024676221
10 37889062373143906
11 420196140727489673
12 1100087778366101931
13 1779979416004714189
14 2880067194370816120
15 19740274219868223167
16 83621143489848422977
17 927372692193078999176
18 781774079430987230203437
19 1264937032042997393488322
20 19134702400093278081449423917
21 1983924214061919432247806074196061
22 8404037832974134882743767626780173
23 162926777992448823780908130212788963731840407743629812913410



posted on Mar, 2 2009 @ 09:49 PM
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how did you "descend the sequence"?

where did you start at...?





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